Icon Battle 3

Started by lando00510 pages

Originally posted by Accel
Who you think is the better character depends on your personal preference. Even if you believed Spider-Man to be the better characer, it wouldn't change the fact that Superman is far more popular and iconic.
and the fact also remains that the timeing for superman cant be ignored if you want an honest comparison of the 2 you have to take away that kind of handicap yes he's more iconic but there is a pretty big reason for it level the playing field and use an unbias crowd and tell me the results would still be the same

Originally posted by lando005
for staters the parts that say who's the better character and who's been more progressive since their creation you seem to be the only one so narrow minded that your not even willing to entertain anything i've said in your head your really going to tell me comein out at the time he did doesnt have anything to do with superman being the icon he is today, do us all a favor take a few seconds to analize what i'm trying to talk about here instead of just writing it off
What I'm saying, it doesn't matter, because it's not how it happened.

The answer to your thread's request is Superman.
I was merely posting different methods of why he was such an icon, not following your tangent observation, but rather sticking to the thread's initial purpose, as I just posted.

You're the one diverging from the point, not me.

And then you say this.

all this is aside from the point we're talking about here

Which is clearly not the case.

When the thread asked for this:

this is the big one

Spider-man vs Superman

This is not a fight i repeat this is not a fight this is to determan who is the better character bigger icon and who has proven to be more importaint and more progressive to comics since their creation both of these flagship characters represent everything their compines worked to perfect for the past 50+ years so who's come out on top?

I'm clearly the one on point.

I don't care what your opinion is on "WHAT IF Spiderman was around at the same time",because the truth is, he wasn't, it's pretty plain and simple. It's pointless to argue the theoretical bullshit to me. No one can predict what would have happened.

Originally posted by lando005
and the fact also remains that the timeing for superman cant be ignored if you want an honest comparison of the 2 you have to take away that kind of handicap yes he's more iconic but there is a pretty big reason for it level the playing field and use an unbias crowd and tell me the results would still be the same

He's not even the first super human figure or the first to wear a flashy costume. But he's the still far more popular than any one who came before him.

Being the first really doesn't have much to do with it. Namor came right after him and hardly any one knows who he is.

Originally posted by Accel
He's not even the first super human figure or the first to wear a flashy costume. But he's the still far more popular than any one who came before him.

Being the first really doesn't have much to do with it. Namor came right after him and hardly any one knows who he is.

having a tailor made hero come out to a hero hugry crowd has nothing to do with it?

Originally posted by lando005
having a tailor made hero come out to a hero hugry crowd has nothing to do with it?

Setting up the grounds for the superhero legion may have.

If Spider-Man had come before him, he would probably had about as much impact on the world as Doc Savage and the Phantom did (meaning, not much at all).

Originally posted by Accel
Setting up the grounds for the superhero legion may have.

If Spider-Man had come before him, he would probably had about as much impact on the world as Doc Savage and the Phantom did (meaning, not much at all).

true not denying that but it could have also been the other way around as i've said befor nothing is garneteed the same could be applied to when spider-man came out what i'm suggesting is putting all that aside and placeing them in a neutral enviroment and seeing what would happen i dont think the results would be the same

Originally posted by lando005
true not denying that but it could have also been the other way around as i've said befor nothing is garneteed the same could be applied to when spider-man came out what i'm suggesting is putting all that aside and placeing them in a neutral enviroment and seeing what would happen i dont think the results would be the same

The you are using a hypothetical situtation. That hasn't happened, nor will it ever happen, so we can't really say.

Originally posted by Accel
The you are using a hypothetical situtation. That hasn't happened, nor will it ever happen, so we can't really say.
i am aware of this what's done is done and cant be changed but you can use a little imagination to try and picture the concept that i'm talking about here i'm pretty sure you have some kind of idea about human nature and how they react to things and we know the concepts bakgrounds and ideals of both characters it's not that hard to come up with an educated guess based off that

Originally posted by Accel
The you are using a hypothetical situtation. That hasn't happened, nor will it ever happen, so we can't really say.
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this is a verses forum making hypothetical fights between characters most of which have never meet or belong to diffrent compaines do you really want to go there

Originally posted by lando005
this is a verses forum making hypothetical fights between characters most of which have never meet or belong to diffrent compaines do you really want to go there

Right, so in time like that, we compare what the characters can do.

This isn't like that at all.

Originally posted by Accel
Right, so in time like that, we compare what the characters can do.

This isn't like that at all.

we compare aspects of the characters most notable their powers and abilites or thier skills so why not compare their concepts and meanings?

Originally posted by leonidas
that's a tough question. you could make a strong case for one or the other by simply checking how their current books are doing relative to each other. that would indicate how the public perceives the characters at the moment.

i think currently superman is outselling spidey, but that may not mean if both were brand new that would be the case. i tend to think people would like spidey better personally, but have no real justification for it. readers today (novels and comics) seem to enjoy characters they can relate to better than characters far removed from them, like supes and other cosmics. but your question is really hard to answer.

interesting discussion. 🙂

did i convince him of anything? i dont konw what i do know is that atleast he's thinkng about and considering what i'm saying you wont even do that

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