Originally posted by Brian Oswald
Just because Meggan has never controlled the ecosytem on a continental scale does not mean that she cannot 😉
We are not just going to give her those power levels when she has never come anywhere near it. All she has ever done are minor elemental feats. She's going to have to prove herself. People on these boards don't even want to give Storm what she has earned and done. There is no way we are going to give Meggan what she has not earned.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
By the questions above, alot of you know ver VERY little about storm and how her powers work in the world around her.If you don;t know don;t make assertions or make fun. Go READ
ya, i do know very little about storm and i asked for some clarification
if you cant see why the claims that a weather manipulator can control sub molecular objects or solar energy would be confusing to me, maybe you needn't say anything? like, at all?
how mature are you?
Originally posted by Rutog98
We are not just going to give her those power levels when she has never come anywhere near it. All she has ever done are minor elemental feats. She's going to have to prove herself. People on these boards don't even want to give Storm what she has earned and done. There is no way we are going to give Meggan what she has not earned.
Storm hasn't done anything impressive even on galaxy scale, yet you are trying to claim that she can be an Universal power.
We would have better basis claiming that a guy who can manipulate weather on 1cm scale can manipulate the whole ecosystem then you claiming that someone who can manipulate the energy of couple of million small stars clumped together in galactic core can manipulate the universe.
Do you have ANY idea how big the universe is?
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Storm hasn't done anything impressive even on galaxy scale, yet you are trying to claim that she can be an Universal power.We would have better basis claiming that a guy who can manipulate weather on 1cm scale can manipulate the whole ecosystem then you claiming that someone who can manipulate the energy of couple of million small stars clumped together in galactic core can manipulate the universe.
Do you have ANY idea how big the universe is?
Of course I do. How, do you know how powerful the Phoenix Force is? Storm's potential has been put on that level by the creator of the PF. She is not there yet, but it is something that she can evolve into.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Of course I do. How, do you know how powerful the Phoenix Force is? Storm's potential has been put on that level by the creator of the PF. She is not there yet, but it is something that she can evolve into.
No...not on the level of Phoenix Force. DARK Phoenix. DARK Phoenix, as she was written by Claremont does not equal the whole Phoenix Force. How old was that interview again? Thirty years?
Phoenix Force is retconned like dozen times after that, by other writers then Chris Claremont.
Your argument does not hold.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No...not on the level of Phoenix Force. DARK Phoenix. DARK Phoenix, as she was written by Claremont does not equal the whole Phoenix Force. How old was that interview again? Thirty years?Phoenix Force is retconned like dozen times after that, by other writers then Chris Claremont.
Your argument does not hold.
Sorry, but this is weak. Claremont put Dark Phoenix above Galactus in that story. Heck, he put her power levels above evey cosmic entity. He stated her powers were second only to the Creator in the DPS. Try again.
Waaaait. CC was never talking anything about Dark Phoenix in the interview.
He mentioned PHOENIX. Not Phoenix Force or Dark Phoenix. Simply the green-costume wearing JEAN GREY Phoenix who sure as hell did not have full access to Phoenix Force. She was Thor level. Magneto beat her in one panel. And she was called "Phoenix". Claremont never mentions "Dark Phoenix" or "Phoenix Force" which are obviously on different power level.
And notice another thing. That interview was made on 1979.
Dark Phoenix Saga did not exist before 1980.
Looks like I am not the one that needs to try again.
Originally posted by inamilist
ya, i do know very little about storm and i asked for some clarificationif you cant see why the claims that a weather manipulator can control sub molecular objects or solar energy would be confusing to me, maybe you needn't say anything? like, at all?
how mature are you?
Rutgo explained it, you didn't accept and made some snide sarcastic remark about her being on some new aged shit.
I'll just echo what he/she said.
Storm is an elemental mutant. Munipulating earth's weather is just a manifestation of her power fostered by the fact that she is infact an earthling. While on earth she has attuned herself to the earth and can effect it's weather to a great degree.
While in Space, she can take those same powers and apply it to OTHER forms of energy the same way she applies it to the energies that make up earths weather.
Even under water she can munipulate the ocean currents by applying her powers to the water the same way she can munipulate AIR currnets.
When she's on another planet she can do the same.
When she's in space she can munipulate solar winds(an energy pattern), stars(energy pattern) etc.
Her powers don't stop on earth......
Claremont was right in that interview. You all relegate her powers to throwing lightning bolts and making hurricaines when she can, and HAS done sooooo much more just by applying the same munipulative ability to "life's weather patterns". There is weather in space. There are electrons in space.
Solar winds are what???... CHARGED particles. From what?? a STAR.
What is lighting??? The flow of Charged particles(electrons). How does she make lightning??? Causing electrons to flow and munipulate them.( Energy patterns)
She commanded the solar winds to destroy a Sentinel. ( munipulation of Eelectrons and protons basically plasma which she also munipulated in the comics.)<---Same thing with the lightning minus the protons
This doesn't mean she can beat everyone's ass. It just means she can do soooo much more than what people pigeon hole her into being.--a chick with "mid-par" weather munipulating abilities.😆
Originally posted by montrailWhat was that?
Funny when someone has a very good point about Storm, you insult them or just have nothing to say....GET OVER IT. Stop hating on her because she is what she is, and will always be. You don't like what you hear and wanna whine like a Storm hating baby? OPEN YOUR EYES, this is a forum where people debate. You can't handle that? Too bad, thats your problem, nobody elses. 🙄 Always trying to spoil a thread because your self-hatred over a comic book character. Again, GET OVER IT.
Originally posted by montrail
he doesn't even have skin
Originally posted by montrail
Okay...does he have skin?
Originally posted by montrail
1: Forge still was human, while IronMan...is not.
Originally posted by montrail
Who is Tony?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Tony Stark.
Originally posted by montrailOh that's right, shut the f'uck up, fanboy. The Phoenix and Storm are so so so far apart that you could fit everything you don't know between them. Yes, that's how far. A huge gaping infinity.
Well what does that have to do with IM VS. Storm?
I don't hate the character. I dislike idiotic fanatics who try to raise the character to stupid levels (like yourself). I know the character - as well as several other characters (unlike yourself). And I know she has her limits. If you don't like people calling out bullshit, then go to a Storm fan forum where you can wank over her all day and all night long. mm'kay? 😊
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What was that?
Oh that's right, shut the f'uck up, fanboy. The Phoenix and Storm are so so so far apart that you could fit everything you don't know between them. Yes, that's how far. A huge gaping infinity.I don't hate the character. I dislike idiotic fanatics who try to raise the character to stupid levels. I know the character - as well as several other characters (unlike yourself). And I know she has her limits. If you don't like people calling out bullshit, then go to a Storm fan forum where you can wank over her all day and all night long. mm'kay? 😊
I dunno....
I'm not quite sure there are that many categories in all of comic-dom. I mean, there aren't that many divisions between Rhino and Squirrel girl - and you can't get much further apart than Rhino and Squirrel-girl.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Waaaait. CC was never talking anything about Dark Phoenix in the interview.He mentioned PHOENIX. Not Phoenix Force or Dark Phoenix. Simply the green-costume wearing JEAN GREY Phoenix who sure as hell did not have full access to Phoenix Force. She was Thor level. Magneto beat her in one panel. And she was called "Phoenix". Claremont never mentions "Dark Phoenix" or "Phoenix Force" which are obviously on different power level.
And notice another thing. That interview was made on 1979.
Dark Phoenix Saga did not exist before 1980.
Looks like I am not the one that needs to try again.
You're missing the boat. As stated in that interview, Storm's powers are equal to Phoenix. However, at that time, Phoenix's powers were tempered by Jean's humanity. Same holds true for Ororo. Her powers are tempered by her humanity. In the case of Phoenix, when Jean's humanity was removed, nothing was there to restrain the power and DP was born. It had near-infinite power, but kept growing and reaching for ultimate power. However, it was stopped before that. DP stated that she had limits still and did not like this. This was before she consumed the star. However, the Watcher let us know that DP could have attained ultimate power and been second only to the Creator had she kept going and not been stopped.
In the case of Storm, when her humanity was stripped, she also had near-infinite power and was reaching for ultimate power. It was in her grasp. However, she brought herself under control rather than continuining down that mad god road of the DP. Both had the potential to grasp ultimate power in their reach. Storm simply refused it while Phoenix was stopped before she reached it.
If Storm were to let go of her blocks and delve into her powers and kept reaching for the higher power levels, she would reach ultimate and unlimited power.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What was that?
Oh that's right, shut the f'uck up, fanboy. The Phoenix and Storm are so so so far apart that you could fit everything you don't know between them. Yes, that's how far. A huge gaping infinity.I don't hate the character. I dislike idiotic fanatics who try to raise the character to stupid levels (like yourself). I know the character - as well as several other characters (unlike yourself). And I know she has her limits. If you don't like people calling out bullshit, then go to a Storm fan forum where you can wank over her all day and all night long. mm'kay? 😊
Ok you need to shut your god damn smartass mouth, because you have went way over the line of insulting people. First of all your smartass needs to take a look at the first post on this page and see that she's at her peak stage in fighting meggan so that means that her powers have been raised from they're normal stage. I failed to see any weakness in her rogue-storm persona to even suggest that she even had one. She stated that thor could stop the storm easly because he had the god damn hammer with magical abilities to stop it. He doesn't feel any effect while stopping a storm because the damn Hammer is doing all the damn work. See the difference.
You people really amazed me with how hard you try to hold storm's power back, are you that much of a loser to worry about somebody elses hero all the damn time? Really the creator of the god damn x-men states that he wants storm and phoenix equal and you still want to sit on your high horses and argue with what the hell he say's. Get the hell out with that bull shit.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What was that?
Oh that's right, shut the f'uck up, fanboy. The Phoenix and Storm are so so so far apart that you could fit everything you don't know between them. Yes, that's how far. A huge gaping infinity.I don't hate the character. I dislike idiotic fanatics who try to raise the character to stupid levels (like yourself). I know the character - as well as several other characters (unlike yourself). And I know she has her limits. If you don't like people calling out bullshit, then go to a Storm fan forum where you can wank over her all day and all night long. mm'kay? 😊
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