"Parallax attempted to create new realities" he couldn't do that with only time manipulation
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"Parallax attempted to create new realities" he couldn't do that with only time manipulation
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Storm has limits now, true. however, we are talking full potential here. The fact is, when Storm evolves into a true goddes in form and all, she will have infinite power. Right now, her body is what holds her back. It limits the amount of power she is able to wield. Wehn she evolves, that will no longer be the case. Storm has the ability to perceive the universe (empty space, plnets, stars, all forms of matter, etc) as patterns of energy and forces. She can potentially bend all of these to her will and do so at an infinite level. She has a unity with life itself and draws strength from this. Her ability to control the elements is merely an expression of this.
This is canon. If you don't like it, tough!
CC, in the Dark Phoenix Saga, put Phoenix's power above Galactus and said she was second only to the Creator. So, when he wrote that Rougestorm story and did that interview 2damnloud posted, he was consciously putting Storm's potential on that level as well. That is the whole point of him writing all of this. Unfortunately, we have not seen what Storm can really do, but we do know it is on Phoenix Force level powers potentially, IF she works for that.
You people may not like it. I frankly don't care. I see on this board how you try to even take away from Storm what she has actually accomplished. However, sticking to canon, the potential is there.
In regards to STorm vs. Meggan, Meggan has more powers with her strength and shape-shifting and all, but Storm is the stronger elemental. Meggan has never shown any great power over any elemetnal force she commands. She has always done only very minor stunts in comparison to STorm in this arena. Storm will overpower her and she does not need to go Rougestorm to do that. That would be a serious overkill to go that far for just Meggan.
The whole point of Storm summoning the full power of those stars was not to illustrate that she can tap into stars as well. If that is all you got out of it, then you completely missed the boat. Ororo was able to do that because of her unity with life itself and her ability to draw strength from that. Reread the captions after she reverses the Brood transformation before she summons the full power of the core. Then read Uncanny 166 where it states that she can perceive planets, stars, empty space, etc as patterns of energy and forces and bend them to her will.
The Phoenix Force is life, right? Technically, if Storm were at full potential, the PF would be unable to hurt her as she could just absorb and grow stronger from anything the PF tossed as her as she did with those stars. 😄 Any attack it tried to use against Ororo is an energy that will only empower Storm. Vice-vera may be true if a fully evolved Storm battled the PF. It could be a stalemate or come down to a battle of the wills. Currently, Storm's powers are limited to the force of her will and strength of her body. The Phoenix is limited only to will since its composed of energy and does not have the body limitations. Storm will be the same when she evolves. teh body limitations will no longer apply and Storm grows spiritually and psychically stronger from life energies which the PF is going to supply her with tons of. 😄
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerI wana see this too, GS is gonna have fun wit da kid!!!!
You went there. You actually claimed that Storm's powers can at any point be equal to full-blown Phoenix Force.GS will have your arse for that. And it won't be a beautiful experience.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get some popcorn. This might actually be amusing.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
You went there. You actually claimed that Storm's powers can at any point be equal to full-blown Phoenix Force.GS will have your arse for that. And it won't be a beautiful experience.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get some popcorn. This might actually be amusing.
He can argue what he likes, but all of this is already in canon. He cannot win this one.If he puts up posts trying to show the power level of the PF, I will all the more happy as it will give me more and more insight into Storm's full potential. Uncanny 147 stated very plainly that Storm was tempted by ultimate power as Jean was by the Phoenix. Storm turned it down, though.
Dear Storm fans,
I know you don't actually read comics, and you just take the scans from the Storm respect thread to misinterpret them.
But in reality, Storm at her full potential really did nothing but say herself that Thor is more powerful, and that she can override a DOOMBOT. So basically Storm at full potential gets really angry and zaps colossus with some angry lightning.
Originally posted by Rutog98
The Phoenix Force is life, right? Technically, if Storm were at full potential, the PF would be unable to hurt her as she could just absorb and grow stronger from anything the PF tossed as her as she did with those stars. 😄 Any attack it tried to use against Ororo is an energy that will only empower Storm. Vice-vera may be true if a fully evolved Storm battled the PF. It could be a stalemate or come down to a battle of the wills. Currently, Storm's powers are limited to the force of her will and strength of her body. The Phoenix is limited only to will since its composed of energy and does not have the body limitations. Storm will be the same when she evolves. teh body limitations will no longer apply and Storm grows spiritually and psychically stronger from life energies which the PF is going to supply her with tons of. 😄
hysterical2 crylaugh lol2 😆 😂 🤣 hysterical
Christ. doh
Originally posted by What If...
Dear Storm fans,I know you don't actually read comics, and you just take the scans from the Storm respect thread to misinterpret them.
But in reality, Storm at her full potential really did nothing but say herself that Thor is more powerful, and that she can override a DOOMBOT. So basically Storm at full potential gets really angry and zaps colossus with some angry lightning.
We never saw Storm at full potential. She was heading down that road as Rougestomrrm. Also, all she said was that Thor could calm the storm easier than she. CC explained on a board that the reason this is the case is because she is doing the work herself and works within boundaries of her choosing while Thor just has to tap his hammer. Also, she was refusing the power right there. She was still limited to her physical body. It states cicra X-Treme issue 4 that STorm will one day transcend humanity and evolve into a true goddess. It also shows in the 12 story arc that Storm will evolve into an elemental being. Not only that, but she will go through various forms. She had ultimate power within her grasp right there in 147, but was turning it down. She had reverted back to her morality at that point.
What we do know is that she had near-finfinite power levels (just like Dark Phoenix did) and could have gone for unlimited (like Dark Phoenix reached for), but turned it down. You try and take one line and blow it out of proportion. We never got to see the full extent of her power in that issue as she turned it down. However, we see later during the Brood Saga that she can actually manipulate pretty much anything she darn pleases. You would not guess from Uncanny 147 that she could perceive the universe as patterns of energy and forces and bend them to her will. We see that she can in the Brood Saga. What is established in Uncanny 147 is that she can potentially wield unlimited power on a par with the PF. We see in other stories other things she can control that was not shown in that issue since she was Rougestorm for all of 5 pages and turned down ultimate power before she allowed herself the chance to grasp it.
Originally posted by What If...
Dear Storm fans,I know you don't actually read comics, and you just take the scans from the Storm respect thread to misinterpret them.
But in reality, Storm at her full potential really did nothing but say herself that Thor is more powerful, and that she can override a DOOMBOT. So basically Storm at full potential gets really angry and zaps colossus with some angry lightning.
Ok, I have a small list of questions, if someone could clear this stuff up it would be amazing.
1) What is it about Storm's power set that allows her to control star energy? Is it just me or does this seem rather absurd... How could she command this and not also be in command of radiation, heat or light?
2) When has Storm ever controlled matter at a sub-molecular level? And like the first question, how does this fit into her power set? Shouldn't this ability give her much different powers, rather than weather manipulation?
3) There is much talk of a Storm who has become "elemental" or "limitlessly powerful". When have we seen this in canon?
4) Back to the omega debate, what comic based references are there to WHAT one must have to be considered an Omega class mutant?
5) If we were to presume that Storm was an Omega level mutant, what does that alter about this fight? i.e. what is being Omega going to allow Storm to do that she couldn't do without us referring to her as such?
If you cannot provide scans for an answer, Please provide an issue # so I can go get them. At the very least please give the book title and possibly the story arc. This way I can go get the scans that you are looking for to prove your point.
Originally posted by inamilist
Ok, I have a small list of questions, if someone could clear this stuff up it would be amazing.1) What is it about Storm's power set that allows her to control star energy? Is it just me or does this seem rather absurd... How could she command this and not also be in command of radiation, heat or light?
2) When has Storm ever controlled matter at a sub-molecular level? And like the first question, how does this fit into her power set? Shouldn't this ability give her much different powers, rather than weather manipulation?
3) There is much talk of a Storm who has become "elemental" or "limitlessly powerful". When have we seen this in canon?
4) Back to the omega debate, what comic based references are there to WHAT one must have to be considered an Omega class mutant?
5) If we were to presume that Storm was an Omega level mutant, what does that alter about this fight? i.e. what is being Omega going to allow Storm to do that she couldn't do without us referring to her as such?
If you cannot provide scans for an answer, Please provide an issue # so I can go get them. At the very least please give the book title and possibly the story arc. This way I can go get the scans that you are looking for to prove your point.
1) Storm's powers spring from a unity she has with life itself. She can for instance perceive the life force within plants, living creatures, planets and stars. She draws on this energy to command the elements. Its not that she can just control stars (that is too limiting for her power), but the fact that those stars are huge concentrations of life energies which power her and she can use it. She does the same thing on Earth. She takes energy from the Earth to control the weather. She can perceive the universe as patterns of energy and forces and bend them to her will. This includes stars, planets, empty space, matter, etc. See Uncanny 165, 166, and 168.
2) Her weather manipulation is an expression of her powers stated above. She has been able to create clothing for herself out by manipulating electrons and air molecules when she was completely naked. This was in X-Treme X-Men around the time when she convinced the UN to give her team world sactions and all.
3) In X-Treme X-Men, circa issue 4, it was stated that Storm has the potential to evole into a true elemental goddess. Further more, Uncanny 147 placed Storm's potential on that of the Dark Phoenix/Phoenix Force. Of course, she came to her senses before she went the mad god way of Dark Phoenix and she turned down ultimate power that was in her grasp.
4) Originally, an Omega mutant is one who can potentially wield limitless power. Characters who can match and beat people like Galactus. That may have changed, however, Storm is definately in this class even going by the old school meaning.
5) She would not need to go omega or anything to beat Meggan. Meggan is not that powerful an elemental. Storm has been able to alter the ecosystem on a continental scale more than once as well as a hemisphere. Meggan has NEVER controlled that much of the ecosystem. Ororo has also produced elemental assaults that carry far more force and devistation than anything Meggan has accomplished. This is leaving the whole Storm/Phoenix Force, stars and etc out of it. Storm just beats Meggan hands down.
Originally posted by Rutog98
1) Storm's powers spring from a unity she has with life itself. She can for instance perceive the life force within plants, living creatures, planets and stars. She draws on this energy to command the elements. Its not that she can just control stars (that is too limiting for her power), but the fact that those stars are huge concentrations of life energies which power her and she can use it. She does the same thing on Earth. She takes energy from the Earth to control the weather. She can perceive the universe as patterns of energy and forces and bend them to her will. This includes stars, planets, empty space, matter, etc. See Uncanny 165, 166, and 168.
OK, i get it now
Storm is basically based on all that new age energy crap
thanks!
