I agree that superman prime doesn't have many feats
but he doesn't need to
he's a godlevel character and writers don't like to give too much exposure to such characters or it would cheapen their value. he's so damn powerful that he doesn't engage in many fights, and has never lost in the ones he has engaged in.
Superman Prime crushes Galactus into a new handbag for Lois
Batman 1Million wasn't part of the Superman Dynasty, since his name includes Batman, nah mean?
And Surfer has made something from nothingness.
And J'onn has controlled hundreds of minds too, iirc.
The one with the best feats out the dynasty, was 1Million.
Prime did nothing to warrant a match against Odin or Darkseid, much less Galactus.
When you realize that hyperbole and implied power is nothing to create a match out of, unless you're trying to prove a point, then get at me.
And how can you say that Bruce, especially on a debate forum??
In debating, without actual points to make, it's useless.
Galactus turns Superman into an amoeba.
Originally posted by UniOmniyour a very arrogant person, who has no room to act that way....... when u realize that, "then get at me."
Batman 1Million wasn't part of the Superman Dynasty, since his name includes Batman, nah mean?And Surfer has made something from nothingness.
And J'onn has controlled hundreds of minds too, iirc.
The one with the best feats out the dynasty, was 1Million.
Prime did nothing to warrant a match against Odin or Darkseid, much less Galactus.
When you realize that hyperbole and implied power is nothing to create a match out of, unless you're trying to prove a point, then get at me.
Originally posted by masterbruceI agreed with this 100%
I agree that superman prime doesn't have many featsbut he doesn't need to
he's a godlevel character and writers don't like to give too much exposure to such characters or it would cheapen their value. he's so damn powerful that he doesn't engage in many fights, and has never lost in the ones he has engaged in.
Originally posted by masterbruce
I agree that superman prime doesn't have many featsbut he doesn't need to
he's a godlevel character and writers don't like to give too much exposure to such characters or it would cheapen their value. he's so damn powerful that he doesn't engage in many fights, and has never lost in the ones he has engaged in.
Superman Prime crushes Galactus into a new handbag for Lois
You people are really ****ing annoying you know that?
Okay so at first scans weren't needed for debates casue we can use feats, now feats cant be used cause we can use hype.
WHAT THE HELL DO WE USE AS PROOF ONCE HYPE DOESNT MATCH THE CHARACTERS YOU LIKE??
We have to decide once and for all what we use as proof in these debates, and if it means the characters you like loose then sit down and SHUT THE F**K UP!
Originally posted by Ext@ntcalm the hell down buddy 😉
You people are really ****ing annoying you know that?Okay so at frist scans weren't needed for debates casue we can use feats, now feats cant be used cause we can use hype.
WHAT THE HELL DO WE USE AS PROOF ONCE HYPE DOESNT MATCH THE CHARACTERS YOU LIKE??
We have to decide once and for all what we use as proof in these debates, and if it means the characters you like then sit down and SHUT THE F**K UP!
Originally posted by Ext@nt
You people are really ****ing annoying you know that?Okay so at frist scans weren't needed for debates casue we can use feats, now feats cant be used cause we can use hype.
WHAT THE HELL DO WE USE AS PROOF ONCE HYPE DOESNT MATCH THE CHARACTERS YOU LIKE??
We have to decide once and for all what we use as proof in these debates, and if it means the characters you like then sit down and SHUT THE F**K UP!
Well, if you can prove that the hype doesn't match Superman Prime's actual abilities, then show it. Otherwise you can only assume Superman Prime's power from what we know.
For example, God probably hasn't had many feats or showings in comics, do you also think that God can't beat Galactus?
Originally posted by Galan777
Who was more powerful then? He made members of the SD more powerful then any metahumans ever shown on pannel
no he didn't . on panel it was said that the extra mental powers and sensory abilities obtained by the SD was due to the union with the Fifth Dimension (imps). superman prime probely became about as powerful as Tyrant.
Hourman III used used the Worlogog to reach back into the last seconds of Krypton, take a moment transport that to the future and recreate the planet and its people including Jor-El and Lara, as a gift to SP. superman prime ressurected Lois from just her DNA with the help of a fifth dimensional imp named Lzyxm Ltpkz (the Superman of the Fifth Dimension) .
Galactus has become a long running joke in Marvel.
How could such a supposedly powerful being constantly be in search of planets, can't he just travel in light speed or even faster and easily find his precious food. Plus, he needs heralds. What kind of a Godly being needs so many helpers? Also, he gets defeated so often by people who are a million times lower than him. Sure, he's hungry, but shouldn't he possess some level of intellect for being such an elder being. Galactus is a pathetic fool, and will be fodder for the true god, Superman Prime.
Originally posted by Galan777
your a very arrogant person, who has no room to act that way....... when u realize that, "then get at me."
True, i can be arrogant to those i feel are somewhat....silly.
But i don't understand the logic in coming onto a debate forum, and making a thread where one character has virtually no points in his favor, yet still maintaining that this character is somehow superior to those with points.
The brilliance of this tactic is lost on me.
Its akin to saying, "this persons aura of power is greater, so he wins."
But the next guy says, "this guy actually has feats to go with his powerful aura!!"
And the first guy maintains," Doesn't matter if he has feats. My guys aura is superior to yours."
And the second guy goes, and logically i might add "But how can implied power, supercede shown power?!".
All you have to go on, is pretty much the strength of your bluff.
If thats all he has, and believe me, thats all he has, he has nothing to stand on.
Guess which guy is you, and which one is me.........
People on this forum for a long time, just accepted that Superman Prime is behind Mikey in power.
With nothing to cement that position.
I refuse to let implied power, win out over shown power.
I can see who got bullied, and who actually walked tall.
Originally posted by complexbrotherI will quote exactly what was shown on pannel when Prime gave the dynasty this power
no he didn't . on panel it was said that the extra mental powers and sensory abilities obtained by the SD was due to the union with the Fifth Dimension (imps). superman prime probely became about as powerful as Tyrant.Hourman III used used the Worlogog to reach back into the last seconds of Krypton, take a moment transport that to the future and recreate the planet and its people including Jor-El and Lara, as a gift to SP. superman prime ressurected Lois from just her DNA with the help of a fifth dimensional imp named Lzyxm Ltpkz (the Superman of the Fifth Dimension) .
"so long as his descendants would remain loyal protectors of his beloved earth, so he would grant them powers far beyond ANY held by ANY metahuman EVER"
Originally posted by Ext@ntim not really debating on hype, the feats SP has are somewhat incredible, and as you may or may not have noticed i have not picked anyone to wins this, i said Big G has a good chance at doing so, but SP is being disregarded as though he is insignificant, and that is rediculous
I'm just sick and tired of seeing people scrape at anything to make characters they like win.All we have on Superman Prime is that he one shotted Solaris and allot of hype and you know it.
And Galan im suprized at you. I've never seen you debate before using only one feat and hype.
Originally posted by Galan777
I will quote exactly what was shown on pannel when Prime gave the dynasty this power"so long as his descendants would remain loyal protectors of his beloved earth, so he would grant them powers far beyond ANY held by ANY metahuman EVER"
THANK YOU!! Now all you doubters can be silent. He gave them powers beyond ANY metahuman EVER (emphasis on EVER).
Prime cosmicPWNs Galactus.
Originally posted by UniOmniwhen did i talk about hype? i simply have brought up what SP has done on pannel, nothing more........ please dont put words in my mouth
True, i can be arrogant to those i feel are somewhat....silly.But i don't understand the logic in coming onto a debate forum, and making a thread where one character has virtually no points in his favor, yet still maintaining that this character is somehow superior to those with points.
The brilliance of this tactic is lost on me.
Its akin to saying, "this persons aura of power is greater, so he wins."
But the next guy says, "this guy actually has feats to go with his powerful aura!!"
And the first guy maintains," Doesn't matter if he has feats. My guys aura is superior to yours."
And the second guy goes, and logically i might add "But how can implied power, supercede shown power?!".
All you have to go on, is pretty much the strength of your bluff.
If thats all he has, and believe me, thats all he has, he has nothing to stand on.
Guess which guy is you, and which one is me.........
People on this forum for a long time, just accepted that Superman Prime is behind Mikey in power.
With nothing to cement that position.
I refuse to let implied power, win out over shown power.
I can see who got bullied, and who actually walked tall.
Not insignificant, just unknown, he has only 3 feats.
1. One shotting Solaris.
2. Bringing back Lois with help from an IMP. ( I can name people who could do it without the imp)
3. He can survive inside the sun. (He's not the only one)
He appered in one issue and at the end of it and if anyone else pulled this you would be on their a$$ in a second.