Superman Prime V.S. FP Galactus and ALL Heralds

Originally posted by masterbruce
I agree that superman prime doesn't have many feats

but he doesn't need to

he's a godlevel character and writers don't like to give too much exposure to such characters or it would cheapen their value. he's so damn powerful that he doesn't engage in many fights, and has never lost in the ones he has engaged in.

Superman Prime crushes Galactus into a new handbag for Lois

Galactus, and friends 10/10.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
You people are really ****ing annoying you know that?

Okay so at first scans weren't needed for debates casue we can use feats, now feats cant be used cause we can use hype.

WHAT THE HELL DO WE USE AS PROOF ONCE HYPE DOESNT MATCH THE CHARACTERS YOU LIKE??

We have to decide once and for all what we use as proof in these debates, and if it means the characters you like loose then sit down and SHUT THE F**K UP!

Originally posted by masterbruce
That's not necessarily a feat. My point isnt that God is the most powerful, we know he is. But we don't ask for feats or proof when it comes to God, so why apply a double standard for Superman Prime, when he has some feats that are obviously AMAZING.

Prime >>>> Galactool

Plus, I guess Sentry can defeat anyone in Marvel, since he has been stated to be the most powerful hero. Do you get how faulty your logic is?

Originally posted by bigbran
Profiled.
Your basing your argument off of hype and bios.
Galactus has feats of him being said to equal Death, Eternity.
He has also had the upper hand to a person who embarressed Death.
But your bios won't tell you that, now will they?

Galactus, and friends 10/10. Agreed, except without all the anger. :laugh. Umm, God basically has the power to create, and delete everything. Why do you think he's called God? He created Lucifer Morningstar, and Micheal, then they created some things, then the multiverse got started.
Plus, Spectre gets his power from God, and we know Spectre is one of the highest beings in DC. God is way over him. Pick your debate, with caution next time.

Plus, I guess Sentry can defeat anyone in Marvel, since he has been stated to be the most powerful hero. Do you get how faulty your logic is?

Logic hasn't been in this "debate" from the get go.

If hype and inflation meant anything, Galactus at fullpower would own any version of Superman, barring none.

Galactus at Full power = Absorbed his ship, and is now greater than Eternity.

Ie, the Universe. One guy sitting in a sun, can't logically hope to match the power that trumps that of the Universal Representation.

The math doesn't add up.

Sitting in a sun, you can't hope to gain enough power to trump a universal, no multiversal power level.

As many suns as there are in the universe??

One sun provides the power to beat a universe itself??

Thats whats they've been arguing for basically.

The math doesn't work like that.

If it did, then math like 1 >>> 1000,000,000 would be alright.

I tried to break their case without going deeper than necessary, but its impossible.

how does absorbing his ship put him above eternity, exactly?

Wasnt it supposedly equal not above...

Originally posted by Galan777
This is Superman Prime, the most powerful hero that has ever existed

But he couldent save Blue Beatel's universe.
So a "well fed" Galactus would be more than enough.

Superman Prime is: Pre-crisis Superman with the power od a yellow star.
Superman Prime = Pre-crisis Superman + A star
Galactus feed at stars, and pre-crisis Superman wouldent be too hard.

Originally posted by leonidas
how does absorbing his ship put him above eternity, exactly?

p.s Surfer wins by himself
😖hifty:

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
But he couldent save Blue Beatel's universe.
So a "well fed" Galactus would be more than enough.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Superman Prime is: Pre-crisis Superman with the power od a yellow star.
Superman Prime = Pre-crisis Superman + A star

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Galactus feed at stars, and pre-crisis Superman wouldent be too hard.

Originally posted by Galan777
Because he was still incubating at this time

Your oppinion

When does Galactus feed on stars regularly? Remember Big G's true form is nothing but a star 😉

I have seen SS absorb the energy of a red sun, what makes you think Galactus can't do that and more?

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I have seen SS absorb the energy of a red sun, what makes you think Galactus can't do that and more?

and also remember Galactus IS a star himself, thats how i never understood how he is on par with Eternity, just bad writing 😄

Galactus bites a chunk of energy off the flying feast that is Superman Prime

Galactus would bite a chunk of energy off the flying feast that is Superman Prime.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU

But he couldent save Blue Beatel's universe.

If I recall correctly, Prime said that he could save the Blue Beatle’s Universe if it wasn’t getting destroyed so fast (in a matter of seconds).

Originally posted by Galan777
Because he was still incubating at this time

It happened some time after Prime returned from the Super Sun.

Until I see more of Superman Prime I’m going with Galactus 10/10.

Originally posted by Galan777
If we are going to say that Galactus could PROBABLY absorb a star, then that will take this argument somewhere it dosent need to go, which is a debate based on hearsay alone 😉

and also remember Galactus IS a star himself, thats how i never understood how he is on par with Eternity, just bad writing 😄

I understand what you are saying, and don't totally disagree with you, probably is a bad word, and not canon. I do however think that G could absorb it. He was going to try to feast on EGO who was supposed to be one of the most potent energy forms in the universe.

Let's call it a draw for the moment, we don't know enough about Prime. We do know that Galactools is a perenial loser, however.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Let's call it a draw for the moment, we don't know enough about Prime. We do know that Galactools is a perenial loser, however.

Oh yeah, your COMPLETELY unbaised. 😆

Galactus has anihillated world after world. It took 2 beings with the same power level as him to bring him down.

well, I'm trying to balance out all the superman prime haters and galactools fanboys on this thread.

When I said Prime would win, you bashed me for not having enough info on Prime.

But when others say Galactools would win, how come you don't bash them?

I'm not saying Galactus would win for sure.

We don't have enough to go on for etheir to be a clear winner, but I don't have to resort to bashing SP to win.

Galactus is no slouch. He's had some impressive feats on panel in the past, and by the end of anihillation I think he will have more.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I understand what you are saying, and don't totally disagree with you, probably is a bad word, and not canon. I do however think that G could absorb it. He was going to try to feast on EGO who was supposed to be one of the most potent energy forms in the universe.

Originally posted by Priest
its supposed to be the most powerful source of energy in the universe..but that was stated a long time ago..
Doom reached full power galactus level when he absorbed the ship..
But the most galactus at full power is on par with eternity, certainly not above.

WITHIN the universe. that implies the universe is GREATER, hence the worldship's power would be LESS than that of everything else in the universe (including the worldship) combined. and no, doom did NOT become 'full power galactus', a purely hypothetical being to begin with.

as far as galactus absorbing a star -- of course he can. he was about to absorb a star in swI when he was planning to battle the beyonder. he's absorbed a friggin' celestial, absorbing a star wouldn't be a problem at all.

re: galactus v prime. the biggest feat of prime was killing solaris. now, we need to ask how tough was solaris? he was more than powerful enough to kill THOUSANDS of supermen, supermen ALSO armed with imp-like magic. he was simultaneously killing ALL the heroes in the 853rd century. supes 1M himself had ludicrous feats of power, (and who alone could give ss himself a run -- at least) let alone all the other heroes of that era. solaris was able to come up with any sort of defense/offensive attack based on what was said of him and was FAR more than simply 'a star'. solaris was clearly meant to be considered a universal power, and given how easily he was killing all those heroes, he WAS a universal power.

prime was easily above him. a great gl alone could give ss a run, so to say ss himself could take prime is silly. could g defeat prime at full power? i'd say yes. but does prime then get to call out the sword of superman? does he get the ring?

you have a hypothetical g (full power) v a complete unknown (prime). how can you make a fair prediction?

i'd guess prime is in g's class. g could surpass him, imo, but he'd need to be damn powerful to do so. and i doubt the heralds would amount to much in the battle.

Originally posted by leonidas
WITHIN the universe. that implies the universe is GREATER, hence the worldship's power would be LESS than that of everything else in the universe (including the worldship) combined. and no, doom did NOT become 'full power galactus', a purely hypothetical being to begin with.

as far as galactus absorbing a star -- of course he can. he was about to absorb a star in swI when he was planning to battle the beyonder. he's absorbed a friggin' celestial, absorbing a star wouldn't be a problem at all.

re: galactus v prime. the biggest feat of prime was killing solaris. now, we need to ask how tough was solaris? he was more than powerful enough to kill THOUSANDS of supermen, supermen ALSO armed with imp-like magic. he was simultaneously killing ALL the heroes in the 853rd century. supes 1M himself had ludicrous feats of power, (and who alone could give ss himself a run -- at least) let alone all the other heroes of that era. solaris was able to come up with any sort of defense/offensive attack based on what was said of him and was FAR more than simply 'a star'. solaris was clearly meant to be considered a universal power, and given how easily he was killing all those heroes, he WAS a universal power.

prime was easily above him. a great gl alone could give ss a run, so to say ss himself could take prime is silly. could g defeat prime at full power? i'd say yes. but does prime then get to call out the sword of superman? does he get the ring?

you have a hypothetical g (full power) v a complete unknown (prime). how can you make a fair prediction?

i'd guess prime is in g's class. g could surpass him, imo, but he'd need to be damn powerful to do so. and i doubt the heralds would amount to much in the battle.

I doubt Prime was easily above Solaris, if he was above him at all.

The reason he was defeated, was due to Prime getting something he hadn't adapted to, ala the Gl ring, and putting the kabosh on him.

Thats like me saying Surfer is above Thanos cuz he beat him after getting the starbrand. (Never happened)

A power outside his own was added.

In all honestly, i would put Solaris at the galactic level threat.

If that.

He was an errant, sentient sun.

Do i think Marvel would've had a tougher time with the guy??

Not at all.

They have a proven few galaxy busters in their ranks.

Destroying the galaxy the bad sun was in = taking out the sun as a result.

And my main beef with Prime supporters, is that his feats, are something that aren't true feats.

Hourman saved Krypton, and Prime regrew it.
Was it done with the gl ring, or his own power??
Who knows?

But i do know that GL Hal, iirc and Surfer both have feats of planetary evolution.

But Superman Prime does it, and he's in stargod class?

He defeats a baddie(big baddie) with a power outside his own, and he gets hype for it??

Lemme say that Surfer beat Galactus in the Unilord saga(i think).

I'll have multiple posters saying he did so with an outside power up.

Thats not a feat.

And he resurrected Lois.........with help from an Imp.

And he granted numerous beings in his dynasty with power........Wasn't enough to beat a mad sun.

I have a reason to dislike forum Superman Prime.....And they're listed above.