Originally posted by Quiero Mota
^ 🤨Number One: The term is religious in nature (ie: not racial), and refers to all Muslims regardless of skin color.
Naturally then the term "Mackerel Snapper" was appropriate for Catholics prior to the Vatican II decision as it was based upon a prejudsiced view of a religious practice - on the subject of Friday avoidance of red meat?
After all, even though it was said in a derogative fashion and based upon limited understanding behind the actual practice it was still fair and right to use... correct?
As to the question - fundamentalism is fundamentalism and both are theoretically as bad. However there are a group of fundamentalist Muslims dedicated to actively bringing harm to those not of their faith (and those of their faith who don't support them.) But not all fundamentalist Muslims are equally as dangerous - the larger part of just opinionated bigots that preach against what they hate, much the same as fundamentalist Christians. And not all fundamentalist Christians are equally as dangerous - there are the simple hate preachers, then there is the rarer, more violent type.
As Feceman said - the worst fundamentalists are the ones who cause death: be they Muslim or Christian.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
^ 🤨Number One: The term is religious in nature (ie: not racial), and refers to all Muslims regardless of skin color.
Oh...so you're 655,000 Americans are more valuable than 655,000 Iraqis. Thats a clear statement against nationality and race. Combined with you're derogatory comments about Islam. Its not hard to put two and two together.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Number Two: I'm Mexican; why the Hell would I have anything against Arabs???
Exactly the question I asked myself. But then again, being a minority, why would you have anything against homosexuals, or Islam, or Iraquis?
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
No shit.
There is a difference between criticising (which is not a problem) and calling names. Calling Muslims "rug-kneelers" or "towel heads" is unnecessary and ignorant.
Originally posted by Alliance
Oh...so you're 655,000 Americans are more valuable than 655,000 Iraqis. Thats a clear statement against nationality and race. Combined with you're derogatory comments about Islam. Its not hard to put two and two together.
No, it's a statment for nation, and has absolutely nothing to do with race. I support U.S. troops in any situation even I myself am opposed the conflict in question (in this case, Iraqi Freedom). If this was 1942, then I'd say that I'd rather have 655,000 German and Japanese soldiers dead than American. My second oldest son is a Marine, so my support for the US Armed Forces is especially high right now.
Originally posted by Alliance
Exactly the question I asked myself. But then again, being a minority, why would you have anything against homosexuals, or Islam, or Iraquis?
I don't.
Originally posted by Alliance
Calling Muslims "rug-kneelers" or "towel heads" is unnecessary and ignorant.
The latter of those two words is directed specifically at Arabs, I never said that. However rug-kneelers applies to all Muslims, and it's self-explanatory. No sense in whining over some word if it's true.
Are you Muslim? And if not, why are you throwing a hissy-fit?
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
No, it's a statment for nation, and has absolutely nothing to do with race. I support U.S. troops in any situation even I myself am opposed the conflict in question (in this case, Iraqi Freedom). If this was 1942, then I'd say that I'd rather have 655,000 German and Japanese soldiers dead than American. My second oldest son is a Marine, so my support for the US Armed Forces is especially high right [b]now.[/B]
See, this might at least makes sense if the US was actually at war with Iraq. My support for the US Armed Forces is always high, but a persons worth is not determined by their nationality.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The latter of those two words is directed specifically at Arabs, I never said that. However rug-kneelers applies to all Muslims, and it's self-explanatory. No sense in whining over some word if it's true.Are you Muslim? And if not, why are you throwing a hissy-fit?
So I can call you a "wetback" because at any point you might happen to be sweating? I don't think so.
I attack you positions because I attack what I see as blatant bigotry.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
The basic answer- that both are as bad as each other- is true. But as of this point in history, sad truth is that Islam produces a lot more fundamentalists.
Originally posted by Storm
Wherever it may be found in the world, fundamentalism is ugly.
Originally posted by FeceMan
The worse ones are the ones who cause death.
Originally posted by Alliance
Any radical fundamentalist is an assh0le.
CONSENSUS!
Anyone who doesn't look into where their belief came from is ignorant......and yes fundamentals are in the front of the line screaming YOU ARE ALL GOING TO HELL!! They also yell....don't read anything outside the church approved books cause if you do IT IS SATAN that is speaking and we all know his tricky ways.......WAIT IT OUT ...JESUS IS COMING..
OHHHHHH and dip into your pockets for a LOVE GIFT/offereing...............oh brother.
Originally posted by Alliance
So I can call you a "wetback" because at any point you might happen to be sweating? I don't think so.
Not unless you want a good ass-beating.
Besides, what I said was religous and you seem to think it was racial. (big difference)
Originally posted by Alliance
I attack you positions because I attack what I see as blatant bigotry.
Yeah, even though you're wrong.
And you still haven't answered my question as to whether you're Muslim or not.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Not unless you want a good ass-beating.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Besides, what I said was religous and you seem to think it was racial. (big difference)
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yeah, even though you're wrong.And you still haven't answered my question as to whether you're Muslim or not.
It doesn't matter or not whether I'm a Muslim. I'm not. Why does this matter?
Originally posted by Alliance
Thats what I thought. Why don't you extend the same priveledge to others?Discrimination is descrimination no matter what you attack. This type of attack aplies to race, religion, sex, and sexuality. They are all equal in this sense.
You're not displaying bigotry? Hmm. Do I need to define it?
It doesn't matter or not whether I'm a Muslim. I'm not. Why does this matter?
You can diss my religion all you want, but if you diss La Raza then you and I are gonna have a real problem, ese.
I asked if you're a Muslim, because it makes no sense to take something personal that doesn't apply to you.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
You can diss my religion all you want, but if you diss La Raza then you and I are gonna have a real problem, ese.I asked if you're a Muslim, because it makes no sense to take something personal that doesn't apply to you.
I take a stand because its unfair and I believe racism is innately wrong.
I stand up against all racism. You would take offense if someone insulted your race, yet you can't respect the race of others.
Originally posted by Alliance
I take a stand because its unfair and I believe racism is innately wrong.I stand up against all racism. You would take offense if someone insulted your race, yet you can't respect the race of others.
I used a slang term for a RELIGION, not a race. You can't seem to understand that for some reason.