The Midnighter vs. Wolverine

Started by Mindset77 pages

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Originally posted by Mindset
Noted.

And I'm sure everyone agrees that his organs are the same as humans, the dispute arises when talking about his skeletal structure, which as you just pointed out has many differences from regular human anatomy.

Yea, that's pretty much what I was going for.

only a few slight ones. His skulls pritty much the same and if he posses normal organs that means the arrow and noses instances are more certainly pis

Originally posted by Battlehammer
only a few slight ones. His skulls pritty much the same and if he posses normal organs that means the arrow and noses instances are more certainly pis
He has enough differences, that to question whether or not his skull allows for objects to penetrate his brain, should not be something to scoff at.

How does that fact the his organs are the same as humans mean those instances are pis?

Originally posted by Starscream M
you know what, I'm done with this 'debate'...you two are way too stubborn to accept what was shown on panel.

And your two ignorant to understand one instances does not erases a history.

Ok lets see you have the bullet through the eye? Not to mention that same author simply made up a weakness for death strike that she dident have. So you have the one instances which compeltely controdicts all the times his skeleton been shown pritty much. Oh and asside from that I have 3 instances of bullets or knife failing to enter through the eye socket due to adamtium 3>1

Then we have the arrow feat and noses one? for one Logan been shot in the noses and that dident happen. Two it was angle up the hole is down. Three in order for the arrow and noses feat to happen his brain would have to be quite different then a humans, which init self would be PIS sinces he already explain his organs are the same

Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm just pointing out the absurdity of relying on a scan of something that is anatomically incorrect when you're dismissing events because they're anatomically incorrect

the xavier protocal rendition of logan's skeleton is not 100% match with a normal human skeleton

Xavier Protocal: Wolverine

Originally posted by Mindset
He has enough differences, that to question whether or not his skull allows for objects to penetrate his brain, should not be something to scoff at.

How does that fact the his organs are the same as humans mean those instances are pis?


Ecpt his differences has allways been he has more bones not less. It should be scoffed at this debate is stupid.

well lets take the arrow feat. In order for that to be ecomblished then entire ear hole and overall set up would have to be compeltely modified. Every in the brain would change. The brain would have to be wired far different then a humans. same with the noses. The hole is going up in dirrectly to the brain instead of down and a swiggal of sorts. You know how much changes that would be to how some one brain functions. If his organs are the same as a humans, there no way either of thoses feats are possiable becauses in order for them to work his entire brain structure would be different.

Originally posted by Mindset
He has enough differences, that to question whether or not his skull allows for objects to penetrate his brain, should not be something to scoff at.

How does that fact the his organs are the same as humans mean those instances are pis?

Every other difference in Wolverine's skeleton is well known and well documented. In order for Wolverine missing parts of his skull to be even possible we are forced to assume that everyone of the dozens of experts, and doctors who have examined him over the years somehow missed the fact that he is missing large portions of his skull in virtually every area....

but somehow Scalphunter found out about it.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Ecpt his differences has allways been he has more bones not less. It should be scoffed at this debate is stupid.

The claws are the only example of him having more bones. Even if it were the case, and that the changes were he had more bones, that is still a structural change, which means his skull also having structural differences definitely possible, and taking into consideration that he has had his brain injured on more than one occasion, likely.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
well lets take the arrow feat. In order for that to be ecomblished then entire ear hole and overall set up would have to be compeltely modified. Every in the brain would change. The brain would have to be wired far different then a humans. same with the noses. The hole is going up in dirrectly to the brain instead of down and a swiggal of sorts. You know how much changes that would be to how some one brain functions.

No, I don't, enlighten me.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
If his organs are the same as a humans, there no way either of thoses feats are possiable becauses in order for them to work his entire brain structure would be different.
In what way would his entire brain structure be different, because his ear canal and nasal canal are?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Xavier Protocal: Wolverine

Srank's (and battlehammer's) version of Xavier Protocal: Anatomically Correct Wolverine

Originally posted by Mindset
The claws are the only example of him having more bones. Even if it were the case, and that the changes were he had more bones, that is still a structural change, which means his skull also having structural differences definitely possible, and taking into consideration that he has had his brain injured on more than one occasion, likely.

No, I don't, enlighten me.
In what way would his entire brain structure be different, because his ear canal and nasal canal are?

He also has denser bones and there connected.

That dident even happen untill 2004, and sinces then it only happen this year....... So your telling me for 20 years it never happen, but all of sudden it makes senses for it to happen? For one thing he been shot in the face loads of time with out anything happening. He taken shot guns to the face noises ect. you dont see anything wrong with the fact 20 years nothing happen and no something did an were expect to take it as fact even though it one event against 20 years of comics? That doesent even make senses. Sniper one for example the dude sucks, he even randomly made up a weakness lady deathrike never had before, it was jsut stupid. not that it matter sinces I have two examples of bullet failing and at least one of a knife.

Yes that would vastly change how the brain was set up and wired. Not to mention all the blood vessals and so on. Altering anything in the brains gunna change a lot. But completely moving were your hearing sensery goes will drastically change the set up of the brain. As would changing the niose.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Every other difference in Wolverine's skeleton is well known and well documented. In order for Wolverine missing parts of his skull to be even possible we are forced to assume that everyone of the dozens of experts, and doctors who have examined him over the years somehow missed the fact that he is missing large portions of his skull in virtually every area....

but somehow Scalphunter found out about it.

Could you post these well documented differences? And by that I mean scans, if it's not too much trouble.

Did they miss it, I don't know, the comic neglecting to mention it seems more likely.

Presumably.

Originally posted by Mindset
Could you post these well documented differences? And by that I mean scans, if it's not too much trouble.

Did they miss it, I don't know, the comic neglecting to mention it seems more likely.

Presumably.


Not again. Why shoudl either of us bother wont change anyone mind. I mean it pointless and a waste of are time. ugg this is the wolverine bones are connected debate again. That was the worst, and whats funny is most all the people saying he missing hpierces of his skull are the same people who refused to ack-knowledge that Logan bones are connected, even though we must have posted 25 scans proving it.

You think the comic neclecting to mention it for the last 20 years more likly? Why have every time they shown his skeleton were there no such holes?

your tyring to tell me scupt hunter found out some weapon x, xavier, alpha flight jean ect dident know? also that one feat to 3

Missing skull pieces or not, Midnighter wins 10/10. 🙂

Originally posted by grimify
Missing skull pieces or not, Midnighter wins 10/10. 🙂

hahahahaahahahahaha that harlious.........and no. Logan can end this in pritty much a single attack can midnighter?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
😕

A bullet doesn't need to go through the spine in order to go through the throat... same thing with the abdomen and spine, and the leg and the knee cap. You may notice how the bullet wound is much much bigger than the size of the bullet due to the high caliber... the bullets trajectory doesn't need to take it into direct contact with the bone in order for it to cause that kind of damage...

wut

A bullet does need to go through the spine if it goes straight through the middle of the throat however. And are you serious with the kneecap part? To go through where it did, let alone the kneecap, it would have to right through his bone.

I notice, however, the middle of the wound is where the spine would appear. Meaning the bullet would have went through the middle, and through his spine.

This scene can't be justified just because it's a good feat for Wolverine. 😬
Great showing of durability, but seemingly terrible knowledge of his skeleton... unless the bullets are just that powerful, or are made of arctic vibranium...

Originally posted by Mekrob
Great showing of durability, but seemingly terrible knowledge of his skeleton... unless the bullets are just that powerful, or are made of arctic vibranium...

Or the ever rare Weapon X Anti-Metal. 😐

Originally posted by Mekrob
wut

A bullet does need to go through the spine if it goes straight through the middle of the throat however. And are you serious with the kneecap part? To go through where it did, let alone the kneecap, it would have to right through his bone.

I notice, however, the bullet appears right in the middle of the wound... where the spine is.

This scene can't be justified just because it's a good feat for Wolverine. 😬
Great showing of durability, but seemingly terrible knowledge of his skeleton... unless the bullets are just that powerful, or are made of arctic vibranium...

actaully if you look at the scans it says "Krack" I believe thats the bullet hitting the adamtium. The one through the neck simply bounced off, look at the bullet it extremely disformed. The knee capt as well, it simply it, and we never actaully see the bullet go through the knee. i believe it hit the adamtium either splint or bounced. Logan before if I recall correctly said that his healing factor can help push bullet out of his body using there own momentum after then hit his bones.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Or the ever rare Weapon X Anti-Metal. 😐
Or Iron Fist's Fist.

Originally posted by Mekrob
Or Iron Fist's Fist.

recontt to secondary adamatium.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully if you look at the scans it says "Krack" I believe thats the bullet hitting the adamtium. The one through the neck simply bounced off, look at the bullet it extremely disformed. The knee capt as well, it simply it, and we never actaully see the bullet go through the knee. i believe it hit the adamtium either splint or bounced. Logan before if I recall correctly said that his healing factor can help push bullet out of his body using there own momentum after then hit his bones.
The 'Krack' is actually the sound of the sniper firing off.

It can't bounce off and come out the opposite side. 😬
And all bullets get deformed after hitting anything semi-solid... let alone someone way denser than the average human. And if the bullet would have hit his adamantium, it would have been a little more than 'pushed in'.

There's blood coming out of the other side of the kneecap. 😬
And Srank already accepted that it went through his knee, but it didn't have to hit anything to get there.

On the opposite side of his body, making it seem like the bullet went through his bone? Excuse me if I don't believe this.
And iirc, his healing factor pushes/shoots the bullets out of his body, but alas, we've no scan.