Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yea it went through the neck that doesent mean it did not hit anything, also Logan has stated on panel his healing factor will uses the bullets momentum to shoot it out of him. The bullet hit part of his spine and was shot out of his neck, that’s why there the “Krack” to signify bullet hitting the bone. Wolverine at one point thinks that the bullet might be stuck around his spine. Also I like to point out that if your basing the blood splatter for why you believe the bullet didn’t hit his bone, take a look at the bullet. Bullet far to damage to not have hit his adamatium. As for the knee cap, again there a “Krack” it clearly the author intention that it broke on the knee which is why the sound was made. Also the bullet could have splinter or simply his healing factor used the momentum to shoot the bullet out which is a stated fact by wolverine him self that his healing factor does.
I didn’t point out that the bullet didn’t hit the bones, but the contrary. It’s depicted like these bullets are going right through the spine and the knee cap. Rationalising it the way you do seems pretty forced - passing near the spine, whereas a large hole is drawn where the spine should be; splintering; healing factor “spitting” the bullet out in a gush of blood in the precise moment of the hit and, btw., in precise line of the shot that would channel the bullet THROUGH the knee cap – pleeeaaase!
Lets face it, this particular line of pictures is crap “proof” when it comes to the durability of Wolvie’s skeleton, depicting things that should not be possible due to the adamantium (acknowledging comic exaggeration or not) and yet you use one small detail out of them that happens to support your point of view (even though on could still argue, that one would have to hit the eye in the right angle to make the bullet pass to the brain, and the shooter didn’t manage it etc.), which is rather … unsophisticated. That was Mekrob’s point in the first place, as i understand it.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I have been going by way three. I am not basing my entire argument on sciences alone, though sciences do agree with my conclusions. Why should those not be PIS? For one each of the feats has only happen a single time. People trying to say that each of the feats validate the other, is simply wrong. They are all separate incidences. If they were all the same area, say the eye or something they may have an argument, but there not. There completely separate events.
All the feats are using the same reasoning - the existence of particular anatomic holes in the skull - so they are very well related. And you are not using way three (using scientific arguments but giving it some room for comic exaggeration) but way two (using scientific arguments to the letter, precisely relating them to the real world). Using way three would be acknowledging the improbability of a bullet shot through any of the skull's holes (except maybe the fissurae orbitales, depending on caliber) in the real world, but giving ratio a little room by accepting it in a comic context, because it is not utter nonsense like shooting a bullet through an opening that actually doesn't exist. You, on the other hand, were saying these holes, being anatomically correct, would be too small, angled up and winded to be passed by bullets ... and despite some exceptions you'd be absolutely right with that in the real world. As i said, that's using science to the letter. It would be quite ok as a way of argumentation in my book, but if you do so, you'd have to use this scientific precision for every feat in favor AND against any character, including you favorite, otherwise you could understandably be accused of preoccupation (i hear the word "fanboy" being used).
Originally posted by Battlehammer
If we ack-nowledge them as useable evidences, then were are saying wolverine has several large holes in his skeleton, which has never been mention by any of the countless organizations, as well as people who have studied him. Never once mention in any of the scans he been given by beast, Xiaver, Weapon X, Mac and Heather Hudson ect. Not a single handbook has mention such openings as well. Also theses four events directly go against Logan countless depiction of his skeleton on panel. Also the eye one directly goes against two events were the bullet did not enter his brain. The arrow feat is just down right ridiculous. Not only does it go against atonomy severally, but goes against Logan depiction of his skeleton structure.
When in comic book history has any character ever been depicted in an anatomically detailed correct way, especially when it comes to such usually unimportant details like particular bones, blood vessels, muscles and/or holes in the skull???
Those artists may have some general knowledge of anatomy, but they are certainly not Michelangelo or the anatomist Joseph Hyrtl. They read up on particular anatomic details and picture them when they deem them serviceable and ignore them when they’re not important … come on, you must be aware of that!
There is no such thing as a detailed medical file for any character in any handbook and no comic book scientist will ever point out conventional, regular anatomic details like the usual skull holes unless they are of utter importance for the particular situation at hand.