Originally posted by dvampire
This is going to be my last post because Goku vs Superman threads never end. You mislead people with your scans. You even contradict what you said about Superman fighting characters with no superspeed. You post a scan of Cheetah blitzing Superman with superspeed, who's been upgraded by Zoom. She basically suprised Supes in that fight with her new upgraded abilities, but she still failed to beat him through the duration of the fight, which you purposely ignored showing what happens after. WW and CM both are faster and stronger than Goku and Cheetah has speed and strength to match them. It's not a bad showing for Superman.You still fail to show any speed feat of Goku being faster. Showing pointless scans of Superman with vague context, missing pics, and with no clear explanation ruins your argument and shows just how desparate and bias you are. How fast is Goku? What speed is he fighting at? You said Superman couldn't dodge or deflect a barage of energy blasts coming his way, I showed that he could. You said that Superman can't fight at Superspeed, but the majority of Superman Rogues have Superspeed and there's scans already posted proving it. You even showed him fighting a character with superspeed. So like I said, Superman hasn't been shown being so slow that he couldn't hit a chracter unless it's Flash.
Where is Goku's strength feat? You show a weaker version of Superman needing help to move the moon, which weighs billions of tons. How is that showing Superman being weaker than Goku? Goku never moved anything half that weight. And currently Superman can move planets now, Goku doesn't come close in strength. How is showing Supeman being badly hurt prove anything in that thrid pic? How did he get like that? Again, you're leaving missing pieces. That pic would be just as pointless as me showing Goku on the ground beaten up without showing what caused it.
1st thing, I never said Superman was slow. Read ALL of my post and show me where I said that. I said that Superman is fast as hell but he isnt close to being on Black hair Goku speed level combat wise.
That Cheetah that was in that fight wasnt upgraded. Thats the male version of Cheetah that has the powers of regular cheetah. Cheetah received an upgrade from Zoom at least 3 or 4 years after that scan. I never said that it was a bad showing that Supes got blitzed by Cheetah but it is more proof on how Superman handle characters that use speed against him.
Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel isnt CLOSE to being on Goku level or anyone level of speed in DBZ.
I never failed at showing Goku speed feats. I have shown you it throughout this debate. Goku slapping a blast out of the air that made it to the moon in seconds proves his speed. Goku outracing Nukes proves his speed, and Goku ENTIRE career in all of his fights proves his speed.
I didnt see a scan showing Superman SLAPPING beams out of the air with his REFLEXES. 😕
Goku's punching power alone is his strength feat. Him punching people through mountains is his strength feat. If we were to use the anime then he have a lot of strength feats that proves that he can stop a small ship.
What scans did I show you thats not telling the entire story? When you answer that show me where you got your info from.