ANIME Fighters VS AMERICAN Superheros

Originally posted by superchron
Exactly, It wouldn't really even be useful in a fight with Supes though, since it would only help Goku run away. And Supes is still fast enough to KO Goku before he can form a coherent thought

your being a hypocrite, and yet still havent provided a single reason he cant fight in IT. btw good job quoting the anime there, when you say it isnt even canon

I admitted I was wrong, Goku can't fight in IT because it's instant, and Goku can't react that fast. Different writers, same Superman. Since all of his stories are continuations, of previous events written by different writers.

How do I lose, you don't even read comics. Hence, whenever someone else puts up an an arguement, your just taking the "Ya, what he said" approach, which is why most of DBZ's arguements= made of PHAIL

Originally posted by superchron
I admitted I was wrong, Goku can't fight in IT because it's instant, and Goku can't react that fast. Different writers, same Superman. Since all of his stories are continuations, of previous events written by different writers.

How do I lose, you don't even read comics. Hence, whenever someone else puts up an an arguement, your just taking the "Ya, what he said" approach, which is why most of DBZ's arguements= made of PHAIL

This Goku Superman crossover isn't fair, Chi gives the Z Fighters a luxury Superman doesn't have.

With Chi they can make themselves stronger, faster and more durable, hence focusing all of your Chi into a body shield, which was what Goku did when he was fighting Trunks for the first time, he shielded his finger.

Chi weilders can make swords just the same as bombs and beams. They make what ever they want, and the more Chi they have, the more powerful their creations are, thats why all Goku's Kamehahameha could od in DragonBall was blow through a mountain, but in the Boo saga, destroy Solar Systems.

And Saiyans have an advantage over higher tier Chi manipulators in the fact that they can transform into Super, upping their levels by many years of training.

Originally posted by superchron
I admitted I was wrong, Goku can't fight in IT because it's instant, and Goku can't react that fast. Different writers, same Superman. Since all of his stories are continuations, of previous events written by different writers.

How do I lose, you don't even read comics. Hence, whenever someone else puts up an an arguement, your just taking the "Ya, what he said" approach, which is why most of DBZ's arguements= made of PHAIL

Originally posted by chickenlover98
oh so since its a continuation it is clearly the same character. i could change my name to superchron, and start posting as you, but would that make me the same person? no. if its written by different people, then they arent the same person. either theyre all in or only 1 is. make your choice

Here's a better example. James Bond, he has different movies, he's played by different actors but it's still the same character. It would help if you actually knew anything about how comic books, saga's and characters are structured.

The point is, he's written to be who he is, if his comic is published by DC, and is cleary in continuity with the mainstream universe, then he's one character. The only inconsistencies, that more knowledgable debaters than especially you bring up are easily explained.

Different writers and different artists don't make it a new character, your just grasping for straw. Current Supes>>>DBZ, seeing as you don't know crap about current Supes, and choose to ignore feats, I see no point in debating you. Goku loses, get over it.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
if you admit its FTL, then you lose. if different writers are included, then they are different versions of superman. its not the exact same character, whether you want to admit it or not. therefore, all versions of goku should count, or pick one writer and stick to him.

your being a hypocrite, and yet still havent provided a single reason he cant fight in IT. btw good job quoting the anime there, when you say it isnt even canon

There are things called "canon policies". DC has one, which states what is canon and what isn't.

Superman in most comics after COIE = canon.

Pre - Crisis Superman, Elseworlds, Animated Superman, Superman from other universes, etc. = not canon

In the absence of a canon policy or statement, the work by the original creator(s) is canon - thus, the manga.

If you want to use "all versions of Goku", let's use the one from that crossover comic someone drew where Superman beats him.

Who's the hypocrite now?

This Goku Superman crossover isn't fair, Chi gives the Z Fighters a luxury Superman doesn't have.

With Chi they can make themselves stronger, faster and more durable, hence focusing all of your Chi into a body shield, which was what Goku did when he was fighting Trunks for the first time, he shielded his finger.

Chi weilders can make swords just the same as bombs and beams. They make what ever they want, and the more Chi they have, the more powerful their creations are, thats why all Goku's Kamehahameha could od in DragonBall was blow through a mountain, but in the Boo saga, destroy Solar Systems.

No one ever destroyed more than a planet in DBZ. Stop lying. Bring up Cell's pointless hyperbole and I'll point out all of the inconsistencies in it, and then bring up countless hyperboles about Superman that blow it out of the water.

Originally posted by superchron
Here's a better example. James Bond, he has different movies, he's played by different actors but it's still the same character. It would help if you actually knew anything about how comic books, saga's and characters are structured.

The point is, he's written to be who he is, if his comic is published by DC, and is cleary in continuity with the mainstream universe, then he's one character. The only inconsistencies, that more knowledgable debaters than especially you bring up are easily explained.

Different writers and different artists don't make it a new character, your just grasping for straw. Current Supes>>>DBZ, seeing as you don't know crap about current Supes, and choose to ignore feats, I see no point in debating you. Goku loses, get over it.

continue to bash me and ill report you

Originally posted by chickenlover98
a HUGE problem with your example is that in the james bond movies is A:there are multiple introduction stores, where he first becomes 007 and B: some are in different time periods. that also would apply to anime and comics.

continue to bash me and ill report you

There's one James Bond origin story, Casino Royale, anyway, they all share some form of continuity, regardless of timeframes, if you want to get technical,the true canon are the Ian Fleming novels.

I haven't bashed you once, report, I don't care, at least I haven't told anyone to kill themselves, like you have multiple times.

Originally posted by superchron
There's one James Bond origin story, Casino Royale, anyway, they all share some form of continuity, regardless of timeframes, if you want to get technical,the true canon are the Ian Fleming novels.

I haven't bashed you once, report, I don't care, at least I haven't told anyone to kill themselves, like you have multiple times.

You don't know shit about what you're talking about, just like you don't know shit about anything else. 😠

We're gonna tear you apart in the argument, tear you to shreds.

Can you trolls just shut up so we can discuss Noein vs. Time Trapper?

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
You don't know shit about what you're talking about, just like you don't know shit about anything else. 😠

We're gonna tear you apart in the argument, tear you to shreds.

Yes, your very good at arguing...... 😆 😆 😆 😐

Reported

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Can you trolls just shut up so we can discuss Noein vs. Time Trapper?

What can Noein do?

Well he created his own dimension and was absorbing all alternate timelines into it, it uses the many worlds quantum interpretation, where every time there is a possibility something different could happen it does, and exists in a different timeline, so it's infinitely branching out. Noein was merging all of those infinite timelines back into 1 dimension which would be frozen and kill everyone except for himself, he also could easily time travel, easily destroyed an intangible quantum being that can stop time and regenerate from a single theta particle (apparently the smallest particle possible in the Noein-verse). His powers to absorb dimensions could be resisted to an extent, but he would have prevailed eventually, except Haruka stopped him.

Originally posted by superchron
Yes, your very good at arguing...... 😆 😆 😆 😐

Reported

Your supposed to ignore someone before you report them, and if you ignore someone and they keep bothering you, you report them, or when you tell them to stop bothering you and they persist, thats a good time to report them, not when they insult you.

You need to learn when and why to report people.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well he created his own dimension and was absorbing all alternate timelines into it, it uses the many worlds quantum interpretation, where every time there is a possibility something different could happen it does, and exists in a different timeline, so it's infinitely branching out. Noein was merging all of those infinite timelines back into 1 dimension which would be frozen and kill everyone except for himself, he also could easily time travel, easily destroyed an intangible quantum being that can stop time and regenerate from a single theta particle (apparently the smallest particle possible in the Noein-verse). His powers to absorb dimensions could be resisted to an extent, but he would have prevailed eventually, except Haruka stopped him.

Sounds like he would be about on-par with Time Trapper, How do you think he would do against Zero-Hour Parralax?

Of course you're probably not reporting me for real rule violation, but for your own personal benefit, right?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Can you trolls just shut up so we can discuss Noein vs. Time Trapper?

Lets forget about Superman vs Goku under normal circumstances.

How about the original Supes who was considerably weaker and couldn't fly vs Dragonball Goku, with the same powerset of when he first fought Tien

Originally posted by superchron
Lets forget about Superman vs Goku under normal circumstances.

How about the original Supes who was considerably weaker and couldn't fly vs Dragonball Goku, with the same powerset of when he first fought Tien

Originally posted by superchron
Lets forget about Superman vs Goku under normal circumstances.

How about the original Supes who was considerably weaker and couldn't fly vs Dragonball Goku, with the same powerset of when he first fought Tien

Oh, now you change the circumstances, this is even better.

Goku stays at a distance on the Nimbus and uses Kamehameha's.

Without the Nimbus he still wins. Come to think of it, Superman has a little strength on him and, nothing else.

This would be like the Achilles VS Boagreos scene in 'Troy'. Goku uses his speed and pawns him.