Originally posted by Endless MikeYou do understand that for them to be his equivalent they must control not only over one universe but to have control over many many many different Multiverses right.
Nah, IG Thanos would still lose to Lord of Nightmares, Kami Tenchi, Idea of Evil, etc. (those are equivalent to the One Above All from Marvel, God basically).
Basically if any of those people can even be remotly tested in power by someone else then no their not equals.
Originally posted by Newjak
You do understand that for them to be his equivalent they must control not only over one universe but to have control over many many many different Multiverses right.Basically if any of those people can even be remotly tested in power by someone else then no their not equals.
Looks like they pass.
Originally posted by Newjak
So your saying there isn't a single force that they can't control and that there is nothing beyond their power. Basically they can create and destroy everyting in creation on a whim??I find that hard to believe.
Have you actually seen said characters in action, or even witnesses their feats?
Because it would make more sense for you to see what they can do, before passing judgement and not the other way around.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarThis is true why don't you tell me then what are there feats that would place them on the level of TOAA?
Have you actually seen said characters in action, or even witnesses their feats?Because it would make more sense for you to see what they can do, before passing judgement and not the other way around.
Originally posted by Newjak
This is true why don't you tell me then what are there feats that would place them on the level of TOAA?
Well, I dunno about ideal of evil, don't even know who he is, I know lord of nightmares good though.
Lord of nightmares is the creator diety of 4 major multiverses that contain infinite alternate universes within them. They include the slayers universe, lost universe, and two un named ones.
The multiverses are pretty much specks that float within her, and she can create them on a effortless whim, and destroy them if she contacts them too hard.
Also, she created 8 universe busters on a whim, and all the gods and devils, who are in eternal conflict supposedly to satisfy boredome.
When one side wins, she starts the battle all over again, she churns out universes like sweat drops..
L-Sama is the Sea of Chaos from which the multiverses sprung
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Um, no.How can you trap an omnipotent being?
by creating a mini universe sourrounding its victims? and then destroy it at will? or prehaps draining the victims power? you cant kill onslaught either when he is considered immortal and god like in his 2nd form, attacking him with magic or any form of powers only makes him even stronger and makes him more unstopable
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yeah, they are 😆 😆
Originally posted by Broly92
No they are more on Multi-Eternity/Multi-Infinity level
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Originally posted by Emperor AshtarThat is a pretty good feat there but I have to tell you this that 4 Multiverses isn't much compared to hundreds of Multiverses. In fact many beings below TOAA have had the power over many Multiverses.
Well, I dunno about ideal of evil, don't even know who he is, I know lord of nightmares good though.Lord of nightmares is the creator diety of 4 major multiverses that contain infinite alternate universes within them. They include the slayers universe, lost universe, and two un named ones.
The multiverses are pretty much specks that float within her, and she can create them on a effortless whim, and destroy them if she contacts them too hard.
Also, she created 8 universe busters on a whim, and all the gods and devils, who are in eternal conflict supposedly to satisfy boredome.
When one side wins, she starts the battle all over again, she churns out universes like sweat drops..
[B] L-Sama is the Sea of Chaos from which the multiverses sprung
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Thats just being fair because while that is a good case the numbers don't add up.
Originally posted by Newjak
That is a pretty good feat there but I have to tell you this that 4 Multiverses isn't much compared to hundreds of Multiverses. In fact many beings below TOAA have had the power over many Multiverses.Thats just being fair because while that is a good case the numbers don't add up.
No, it's not multiverses, it's infinite universes broken into 4 main multiverses.
Originally posted by Kadesh
by creating a mini universe sourrounding its victims? and then destroy it at will? or prehaps draining the victims power? you cant kill onslaught either when he is considered immortal and god like in his 2nd form, attacking him with magic or any form of powers only makes him even stronger and makes him more unstopable
Do you know what the word "omnipotent" means? It means they have unlimited power. They can do WHATEVER they want. Even if (and I emphasize the if) it is trapped in another universe, if it so wishes to not have its power drained, it won't be drained. Or if it wills to not be trapped anymore, it is no longer trapped. Nothing is above omnipotence. Using all techniques won't work against true omnipotence.
Oh, and an omnipotent can do more than just kill Onslaught. It can simply will it so that he never existed in the first place.
That is a pretty good feat there but I have to tell you this that 4 Multiverses isn't much compared to hundreds of Multiverses. In fact many beings below TOAA have had the power over many Multiverses.
Wrong. MU is *ONE* multiverse. Everything happens beneath TOAA, or rather, The Living Tribunal, who is TOAA's *****. Lord of Nightmares created *FOUR* multiverses, each with infinite sets of alternate realities,universes and timelines (defining a multiverse), and infinite sets of demons and gods to rule over each one of them. And each god or demon is capable of destroying that respective universe.
No they are more on Multi-Eternity/Multi-Infinity level
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Er... no. L-sama created the multiverses in its entirety and exists OUTSIDE the confines of everything. Infinity... Eternity... Reality, space, all of existence is s infinitesimal portion of her.
So your saying there isn't a single force that they can't control and that there is nothing beyond their power. Basically they can create and destroy everyting in creation on a whim??I find that hard to believe.
Yes, exactly. I dunno about Idea of Evil, but L-sama (Lord of Nightmares) is certainly capable of doing so. In fact, she created all of existence, which include the multiverses, demons, gods and all that without even willing it. In other words, aside from the four known multiverses set by Hajime Kanzaka (the author of Slayer and Lost Universe), it is completely possible that she's creating more and more things on a whim. It takes her less effort to create multiverses than it does for us breath (which we are always doing).
So, yeah. Thanos with the IG? Nothing. IG is power over one universe. L-sama has power over multiverses at a time.
And to give you an idea of how powerful she is, she actually beats the crap out of the author himself at the end of each novel, haha.
Seriously though. If you don't know anything about the characters, don't try to disprove what people that do know about them.
Anyways.
Post Crisis Superman loses BADLY to Goku. However, Pre-Crisis Superman rips Goku even at his strongest to bits and pieces.
Vegeta beats Wolverine... In his sleep probably.
THE HULK VS Good Majin Buu - Depends on which Hulk... Early Hulk wins. More current loses to Buu.
Piccolo VS Blade - Piccolo.
Naruto VS Robin - Naruto
Van Helsing VS Spike - Spike
Flash VS Rock Lee - Flash.
Batman VS Inuyasha - Bats w/prep beats Inu Yasha easily.
Green Lantern VS Sasuke - Green Lantern
Wonder Woman VS Android 18 - Android 18
Daredevil VS Krillin - Krillin
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Cyclops VS Kakashi Sensai - Kakashi overwhelms Cyclops.
Elektra VS Sakura - Dunno.
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Broly VS Hulk - Depends on which Hulk. But I'm looking at Broly until somebody tells me it's classic Hulk
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Apacolypes VS Kid Buu - Kid Buu destroys the planet
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