Goku has been a Planet Destroyer since the Siyan saga, Vegeta took a Planet Destroying Kamehameha of Goku then a spirit bomb, which had energy from Goku the earth and the sun in it, and vegeta survived !! Frieza survived a spirit bomb made from the energy of Namkes entire solar system and when gouk is telling krillina and the others how he got of namek you see the planet namek blow up and the explosioncan be seen from outside the galaxy meaning it was a solar system sized explosion and frieza survived it with round half of his power !!
Originally posted by BradBalboaVegeta took a Spirit Bomb that Gokou had saved energy from not the complete thing.
Goku has been a Planet Destroyer since the Siyan saga, Vegeta took a Planet Destroying Kamehameha of Goku then a spirit bomb, which had energy from Goku the earth and the sun in it, and vegeta survived !! Frieza survived a spirit bomb made from the energy of Namkes entire solar system and when gouk is telling krillina and the others how he got of namek you see the planet namek blow up and the explosioncan be seen from outside the galaxy meaning it was a solar system sized explosion and frieza survived it with round half of his power !!
Originally posted by BradBalboaDarkseid could erase anyone with the Omega Beams in DBZ and is physically above them all.
hahah your seriously suggesting someone of Darksied power could take on the DBZverse ?/ hahhaa
Darksied is a god and hes powerful ill give you that, but hes nothign special Goku coudl take him easy enough
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
but remember freeza split namek in 2 with his fingers.
No he didn't. He cut a trench in the ground that was around a kilometer long and an unknown depth (not through the crust since there was no lava like when he hit the core).
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hahah your seriously suggesting someone of Darksied power could take on the DBZverse ?/ hahhaa
Darksied is a god and hes powerful ill give you that, but hes nothign special Goku coudl take him easy enough
No. No, he really couldn't.
Well, maybe Apokolips Now! Darkseid or some other stupid jobbing version, but not when he's written correctly. Try looking his his respect thread.
Goku has been a Planet Destroyer since the Siyan saga, Vegeta took a Planet Destroying Kamehameha of Goku
Based on nothing more than a statement made by Vegeta, who was completely enraged and not thinking logically at the time. Furthermore, Vegeta did not actually take the brunt of Goku's Kamahameha, since he escaped it before it detonated, and the energy in it kept flying off into space.
then a spirit bomb, which had energy from Goku the earth and the sun in it, and vegeta survived !!
Only because Goku could not complete the spirit bomb, it was only partially formed.
Frieza survived a spirit bomb made from the energy of Namkes entire solar system
All it was said was that Goku was drawing energy from other planets. The mere fact that the energy is drawn from so many sources doesn't mean anything unless we can quantify it.
when gouk is telling krillina and the others how he got of namek you see the planet namek blow up and the explosioncan be seen from outside the galaxy meaning it was a solar system sized explosion
What? That's completely ridiculous. First of all, an explosion being seen from far away simply means it is bright, it doesn't say how large it is. Many stars can be seen from outside of the galaxy, it doesn't mean they are the size of star systems. Furthermore, this is the scene of Namek exploding in the manga:
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No galaxies, you can just see it with a few stars in the background, in space. Brad, have you read the DBZ manga, or just watched the anime?
and frieza survived it with round half of his power !!
Being on the surface of an exploding planet is, without question, a good durability feat, but it is not the same as actually taking a planet - destroying attack directly, since you only recieve a fraction of the explosion while the rest flies off into space.
never the les, he still tok it AFTER taking a PDA !! even with a weakened spirit bobm is deadly to someone of evil nature like vegeta at the time
Well it should be kept in mind that Vegeta was not completely evil - he had some good in him, that's why he later became a good guy.
i seriously doubt it, iv never seen or herd of Darksied omega effect doing anything beyond DBZ feats !! Plus he isnt above them all !! Frieza could beat Darksied !!!
You want feats?
Darkseid has switched planets between dimensions with the Omega Beams, navigated through the Source, broken the Source Wall, telepathically dominated billions of beings at once, destroyed all of time by being removed from it, he slaughtered entire pantheons of gods, hurt the Source, DC Odin (who created his own pocket universes) was afraid of him, he took a solar - system destroying attack from the Anti-Life Entity and was unharmed, thinks faster than light, summoned Superman with the OE from dimensions away, he can create avatars that are still above top tier, he can control people's minds and create constructs as a spirit even if his body is destroyed, he's created beings like Stayne and Brimstone that have defeated Takion and the JLA, also prior to DOTNG he couldn't even be killed by the Spectre because the Source wouldn't allow it, he can control Shadow Demons that are immaterial and deadly to even Superman, instant teleportation, he froze Ares who had the Godwave (the power that created and gave supernatural powers to everyone in the universe) by bending space and time around him, he knocked Mon-El into a coma with one punch (when Mon-El also survives being on exploding planets easily, punches apart planetoids, etc.) His Omega Beams were instrumental in the defeat of Imperiex who is an easy universe-buster, his Omega Beams also were one of the most effective attacks against the Anti-Monitor that destroyed most of his body, the Omega Beams have even hurt the Spectre, he beat Cyborg Superman with a single blast of the beams, transform people into statues and send them through time, toyed with Mary Marvel who was amped to ridiculous levels, he beat Eclipso, defeated an attack from the entire Green Lantern Corps, he absorbed the power of Mordru and the false Time Trapper, etc. ad infinitum
Your vastly underestimating Friezas powers !!Rememebr Frieza was originally ment to be the final DBZ villian, In his first form he can easly destroy Planets, his final form is 4X more powerful, and thats at 1% power !! 100% Full-Power Frieza is beyond Darksied !! Frieza had overpowered planet destroying attacks when he was at 1% strength and showed no fetigue afterwoods !! Frieza also command a much larger empire than Darksied, darksied has the Planet Apokolypse, and his strongest fighters are the female furies, Friezas army spans across the Galaxy, and the Ginyu Forces could take the female furies anyday !!
Plus it took Darksied 2 blasts of his Omega-beams to beat the Cyborg Superman ( the first one he was weakened) but he ddint kill him !! And Imperiex isnt Universe buster, hes Galaxy Buster, if eh was Universe Buster, he woudl have just destroyed the whole DCU when he ahd the chance sicne he DID wnat to hollow the universe, but he coudlt so he went round absoring galaxys !! And asfar as i know, when he fired his omega beams at the Anti-Monitor, alexs Luthor Jrs powers may have been adedd to it, either way Darksied wasnt actaulyl at the battle he just veiwed it threw alexs eyes !! Frieza has beings who are easy Planet busters, kneeling beore him !!He survives a spirit bomb made from energy of an entire solar system, and survives, he survives the planet Namek blowing up with less than half of his power, and half a body !!Plus when gouk is telling the z fighters how he got of namek, the planet namek blwoing up can be seen from outside the galay, a planet blowing up couldnt be seen from outside the galaxy, meaning the explosion was solar system sized if not bigger !!and it never even knocked frieza out cold, he was still concios in space muttering " Monkey...he was just a ..m..monkey" !!and i know its JLU but Daksied is killed when the planet he is on blows,a nd its a tiny planet !!
frieza also command a much larger empire than Darksied, darksied has the Planet Apokolypse, and his strongest fighters are the female furies
Darkseid isn't interested in something so pedestrian as ruling the universe through force of arms. He wants the anti life equation everything else is irrelevant.
Darkseids most powerful warriors would be Grayven, Kaliback and Mantis. Even random new gods like Power boy have had sustained fights with Kryptonians.
Grayven would eat the ginyu force for breakfast.
Originally posted by BradBalboaCooler would be broken over DS' knee too. Cold would as well.
Plus Darksied doesnt have the allies Frieza does, if Darksied where to kill frieza then he would have a pissed of Cooler to contend with !!
Hell, Darkseid should just send Granny Goodness to deal with the Cold family.
