Hulk vs Captain America w/twist

Originally posted by Accel
Skill combined with 25-ton strength isn't enough. He'll irritate Hulk. That is all.

No he won't. You're not getting it.....

Originally posted by Alfheim
The Thing is not a martial arts expert. If Cap with one ton strength can stun a 70 toners whats he gonna do with at least 25 tons, Hulk is going down.

Originally posted by Accel

The result? Hulk will become madder and we all know what happens next.

Yeah but he doesnt get to class 100 straight away.....I dont think. Hulk starts at 70 tons then increases. C'mon man Cap knocked out a 10 toner on his normal strength level. At 25 tons the Hulk isn't 10 times Cap strength only 3 times. Hulk is going down he wont get the chance to get mad.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No he won't. You're not getting it.....

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah but he doesnt get to class 100 straight away.....I dont think. Hulk starts at 70 tons then increases.

Originally posted by Alfheim
C'mon man Cap knocked out a 10 toner on his normal strength level.

Originally posted by Alfheim
At 25 tons the Hulk isn't 10 times Cap strength only 3 times. Hulk is going down he wont get the chance to get mad.

Originally posted by Accel
If guys like Thor and Hercules can’t even knock him out, then what makes you think someone with Luke Cage strength is going to do any thing?

Because they dont use pressure point fighting. did you Mantis who doesn't even have Cap's strength is able to stun people on Thor's strength level.

Originally posted by Accel

Hulk’s base strength is in the 100+ range. He’s performed feats in this range at his base strength just fine. The handbooks aren’t reliable sources.

Yeah well anyway 25 tons is an estimation its was the bare minimum. The suit could be 90 or class 100 lower level basically it was used to knock out a weakened Superman that had absorbed the strength of a rainforest.

Originally posted by Accel

Hulk affected pure energy with his bare hands before. Shit happens.

So.

Originally posted by Accel

He’s far above that. He’s not too far behind the likes of Thor or Superman. That fact is still as such: guys like Thing, Juggernaut, Drax, Thor, and Hercules all have trouble knocking Hulk out, so why would Cap do it just because he’s skilled and has a strength upgrade?

There not using pressure point fighting.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Because they dont use pressure point fighting. did you Mantis who doesn't even have Cap's strength is able to stun people on Thor's strength level.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah well anyway 25 tons is an estimation its was the bare minimum. The suit could be 90 or class 100 lower level basically it was used to knock out a weakened Superman that had absorbed the strength of a rainforest.

Originally posted by Alfheim
So.

Originally posted by Alfheim
There not using pressure point fighting.

Originally posted by Accel
Cap has no where near the amount of training that Mantis has. Karnak is pretty damn good at pressure points as well. However, his skills didn’t work on Hulk.

Hes not as good but hes close if he can hurt people in the 70 ton strength range

Originally posted by Accel

As I recall, Superman didn’t fight back and Bats used Kryptonite. Too bad the same principles won’t apply to Hulk here.

Well still lets try and calculate this. Power of a rainforest right that would be in the class 100 range right. Superman did fight but yeah he was holding back, but that suit still had to pretty tough. How strong, could we say 90 tons? Right so Cap on normal level can hurt people who can lift 70 tons, now he can lift 90 tons. 90 times 70 = 6300 tons.

Oh yeah and Batman was old and had a weak heart as well.

Originally posted by Accel

So buttons.

Sorry dont get the relevance.

Originally posted by Accel

Which would do what exactly? What pressure points is Cap going to try to apply to get through hundreds of pounds of muscle and won’t heal instantly?

Right so Cap on normal level can hurt people who can lift 70 tons, now he can lift 90 tons. 90 times 70 = 6300 tons.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Hes not as good but hes close if he can hurt people in the 70 ton strength range

And being able to hurt someone doesn’t mean much. A mosquito can hurt me if it bites me. If it’s bite is100X stronger, it’ll hurt a lot more, but not nearly enough to make me go down.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well still lets try and calculate this. Power of a rainforest right that would be in the class 100 range right. Superman did fight but yeah he was holding back, but that suit still had to pretty tough. How strong, could we say 90 tons? Right so Cap on normal level can hurt people who can lift 70 tons, now he can lift 90 tons. 90 times 70 = 6300 tons.

Oh yeah and Batman was old and had a weak heart as well.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Sorry dont get the relevance.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Right so Cap on normal level can hurt people who can lift 70 tons, now he can lift 90 tons. 90 times 70 = 6300 tons.

Originally posted by Accel
Not really. Mantis could actually sense pressure points. Cap can’t do that.

Ok

Originally posted by Accel

And being able to hurt someone doesn’t mean much. A mosquito can hurt me if it bites me. If it’s bite is100X stronger, it’ll hurt a lot more, but not nearly enough to make me go down.

C'mon man you know what I mean. I dont mean mosquito bite. Cap fought My Hyde who can lift 50 tons and basically he beat the crap out of him and he also beat the 70-75 ton strength Mister Hyde

Originally posted by Accel

Yeah and Hulk blew down a forest with just his breath before. A simple thunderclap should wrap things up just fine.

he blew down a rainforest??? A rainforest????

Originally posted by Accel

That calculation makes no sense whatsoever.

Yes it does he could possibly lift 90 tons now. If he can beat people up in the 70 tons range when he can lift one ton, that means if he can lift 90 tons you multiply it by 70.

Forest = a bunch of trees 😉

(well, at least 50 of them)

Oh not you lol....sorry just kidding 😛 *gets ready for a cap bashing*

I'm not gonna bash Cap.

Well you can if you want....I was only joking........sort of

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Forest = a bunch of trees 😉

(well, at least 50 of them)

Anyway if this is the sort of forest Accel is talking about it doesn't count a rainforest is ****ing HUGE!!!

Well, he didn't even say rainforest. He said forest. 😉

But regardless, it wasn't a whole forest, of course. But it did equate to, what, 1000 tons of wood?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well the thing is Hulk would not use the thunderclap in that situation, because he is in a crowded area. Furthermore he didn't think he needed to use it which is feasible. All the Hulk tried to do was grab him and punch him if that had not worked the Hulk would have just said "**** it" and thunderclapped him.

I know annoying is not the same as beating but what im saying the fact that Cap was able to surveve that long shows you how good he is.

Im sorry the Hulk is going down. Cap can stun 70 toners with one ton strength. That Bat suit was probably at least 25 ton strength and Cap has his shield.

Originally posted by Badabing
These threads are in bloodlust unless otherwise noted. Thunderclap and ground stomp are both applicable.

Yeah and...

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well the thing is Hulk would not use the thunderclap in that situation, because he is in a crowded area.

Originally posted by Badabing
These threads are in bloodlust unless otherwise noted. Thunderclap and ground stomp are both applicable.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah and...

Originally posted by Badabing

Bruv the first quote is refering to a fight that Cap had without any armour, you are taking my quote out of context. There is alot of stuff I have said after that. It seems you have not read it. 😱

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok

Originally posted by Alfheim
C'mon man you know what I mean. I dont mean mosquito bite. Cap fought My Hyde who can lift 50 tons and basically he beat the crap out of him and he also beat the 70-75 ton strength Mister Hyde

Originally posted by Alfheim
he blew down a rainforest??? A rainforest????

His thunderclaps have put hurricanes to shame. Good luck standing up to that.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes it does he could possibly lift 90 tons now. If he can beat people up in the 70 tons range when he can lift one ton, that means if he can lift 90 tons you multiply it by 70.

Even if that's true, whoopty doo. Hulk's far above that range. Like I said before, the best Cap can hope for is hurting Hulk, which in turn is going to make him angrier, stronger, and more durable.

Originally posted by Accel
So it means nothing to compare them.

If you say so.

Originally posted by Accel

Daredevil also beat Hyde. Hulk beat the guy when he was dying. Hell, Thor beat him just by letting the guy run into him and knock himself out. They guy's nothing to Hulk.
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You missed the point. 50X90

Originally posted by Accel

No, just a forest. But then again, Cap's suit isn't an entire rainforest is it?
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Missed the point again, it was used to fight someone who was powered by a rainforest. I had to come up with anb estimation.

Originally posted by Accel

His thunderclaps have put hurricanes to shame. Good luck standing up to that.
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Well that would be a problem but im not sure if thats something that he would use straight away.

Originally posted by Accel

He doesn't beat up people in that range, he hurts them, mostly annoying them. .

No he did not he beat Mr Hyde up and with his upgrade as well.

Originally posted by Accel

According to your calculations, this means he can now hurt people who can lift 6300 tons. .

Yeah basically.

Originally posted by Accel

Even if that's true, whoopty doo. Hulk's far above that range. Like I said before, the best Cap can hope for is hurting Hulk, which in turn is going to make him angrier, stronger, and more durable.

Er Hulks above 6300 tons at his base level? The fact of the matter is that if Cap can do that much damage at 90 tons he could take Hulk out even before he claps his hands with one blow, since Cap can be considered to have enhanced reflexes and the Hulk doesn't.

Cap doesn't stand a chance.

A few thunderclaps and he goes down, with the suit or without it.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
Cap doesn't stand a chance.

A few thunderclaps and he goes down, with the suit or without it.

Cap can knock him out even before he gets a chance to do it he is alot faster.

Cap cant beat Namor but if he can do this without armour the Hulk is going down.

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