Ryu Hayabusa and Ayane vs Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart

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superbatman86 Senior Member

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
The same authors created Final Fantasy 7 and Kingdom Hearts 2. Sephiroth was made equal in both games. Square Enix did not make Sephiroth in KH more or less stronger than in FF7. While he is not canonical to the FF7 universe, he is still the same in terms of power and skill. Both have the same exact list of attacks, and as long as nothing in KH contradicts Sephiroth in Final Fantasy 7, then there's nothing to argue about.
As it's not canonical to FF7 then they're not the same characters wheither it's written by the same author or not.It's an Alternate version of the character.

superbatman86 Senior Member

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
What exactly do you mean by planet or city destroying? Please don't tell me you're talking about Super Nova, and need I remind you in FF7 CLoud & Tifa didn't tackle the dangers by themselves. Be specific about what you're tyring to bring to the argument. Who or what exactly did Cloud & Tifa fight by themselves that was capable of destroying the whole planet or a city, Super Nova & Meteor excluded for obvious reasons.
You know being able to destroy a city or planet.And no I'm talking about Metoer and the Weapons.Seph can destroy a planet and the weapons can destroy cities.

superbatman86 Senior Member

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
This is a draw btw; I've proved that twice already.
And no you proved that Ryu and Ayane have beaten people Cloud and Tifa would run over and nothing more.

Cloud_VII Restricted

Originally posted by superbatman86
As it's not canonical to FF7 then they're not the same characters wheither it's written by the same author or not.It's an Alternate version of the character.

Did I say he's canonical to Final Fantasy 7? No. I said they are the same in terms of power and skill. Learn to read.

Cloud_VII Restricted

Originally posted by superbatman86
And no you proved that Ryu and Ayane have beaten people Cloud and Tifa would run over and nothing more.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-XQBz5xrRX4

You're kidding, right?

Cloud_VII Restricted

Originally posted by superbatman86
You know being able to destroy a city or planet.And no I'm talking about Metoer and the Weapons.Seph can destroy a planet and the weapons can destroy cities.

Sephiroth can't destroy a planet with his sheer power. He has to summon a meteor that would destroy it for him. Also, Cloud and Tifa did not defeat the Weapons by themselves. It took the whole cast of Final Fantasy 7 to do it. Cloud alone had a tough time fighting Loz and Yazoo, and Tifa in the long run got raped by Loz. Ryu's feats are solely his.

IceJaw Yeah, changed name

Originally posted by superbatman86
And no you proved that Ryu and Ayane have beaten people Cloud and Tifa would run over and nothing more.
Are you REALLY american? 🙄

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Cloud_VII Restricted

Originally posted by IceJaw
Are you REALLY american? 🙄

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Sado22 Restricted

Ayane is really hot.
Tifa is too damn hot.
Why do they even have to fight?
It's new year. Ryu and Cloud get the booze while Tifa and Ayane turn on the heat. Infact bring in Kasumi and Aeris too.....then we're REALLY talking. 😈
Cloud: this is so much better than standing over my friend's grave and bitching.
Ryu: *gulp* ohh yeahh.........

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Cloud_VII Restricted

Originally posted by Sado22
Ayane is really hot.
Tifa is too damn hot.
Why do they even have to fight?
It's new year. Ryu and Cloud get the booze while Tifa and Ayane turn on the heat. Infact bring in Kasumi and Aeris too.....then we're REALLY talking. 😈
Cloud: this is so much better than standing over my friend's grave and bitching.
Ryu: *gulp* ohh yeahh.........

~The Invincible Sado-sama


... 🙁

Sado22 Restricted

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you prefer them fighitng?
fine...
they fight and then do the above. happy? 😄

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Cloud_VII Restricted

Originally posted by Sado22
you prefer them fighitng?
fine...
they fight and then do the above. happy? 😄

~The Invincible Sado-sama


😄

Superboy Prime Fanboy
Originally posted by superbatman86
You know being able to destroy a city or planet.And no I'm talking about Metoer and the Weapons.Seph can destroy a planet and the weapons can destroy cities.

*Cough* Seph can destroy a planet, and so what? He can't under his own power destroy a planet. He is not Goku with a long sword and Bishounen hair. It doesn't really matter if he can or can't destroy a planet because the fact of the matter is he did not, and that still does not suggest Cloud & Tifa are capable of pulling off a feat like that. The Weapons were total pushovers if you ask me, and Cloud & Tifa did not take on the weapons by themselves as I commented earlier, they had 6 other peeps helping them out.

Superboy Prime Fanboy
Originally posted by superbatman86
And no you proved that Ryu and Ayane have beaten people Cloud and Tifa would run over and nothing more.

No offense, but you honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

superbatman86 Senior Member

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Did I say he's canonical to Final Fantasy 7? No. I said they are the same in terms of power and skill. Learn to read.
And where pray tell does it say that their eqaul?No where exactly.You have no evidence to base this claim on.

superbatman86 Senior Member

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
*Cough* Seph can destroy a planet, and so what? He can't under his own power destroy a planet. He is not Goku with a long sword and Bishounen hair. It doesn't really matter if he can or can't destroy a planet because the fact of the matter is he did not, and that still does not suggest Cloud & Tifa are capable of pulling off a feat like that. The Weapons were total pushovers if you ask me, and Cloud & Tifa did not take on the weapons by themselves as I commented earlier, they had 6 other peeps helping them out.
Your calling the manifestations of the planets will to protect itself weak?Wow how deluded are you?The fact that he has the means to destroy the planet is makes him planet destroying.

superbatman86 Senior Member

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-XQBz5xrRX4

You're kidding, right?

Yeah that's still not the size of even a small city so try again.Also he was using the sword to power him up so it's not all his power.

superbatman86 Senior Member

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
No offense, but you honestly have no idea what you're talking about.
I own and have beaten both games and only FF was the world in danger of being destroyed.ANY Weapon would walk through Ryu and anyone else in NG.

Cloud_VII Restricted

Originally posted by superbatman86
And where pray tell does it say that their eqaul?No where exactly.You have no evidence to base this claim on.

Do you have any evidence to prove otherwise? I think not, and it's sensible to say Square Enix did not make the dominant Final Fantasy characters any more powerful in Kingdom Hearts II as they were in their respective games. As I said, Sephiroth uses the same list of attacks and seems to be as powerful as he was in FF7. If there isn't anything saying he was stronger, or weaker, then it could only be assumed that he is as powerful.

Cloud_VII Restricted

Originally posted by superbatman86
Your calling the manifestations of the planets will to protect itself weak?Wow how deluded are you?The fact that he has the means to destroy the planet is makes him planet destroying.

Sephiroth travels around the world, and goes to the Temple of the Ancients, here he absorbs the knowledge of the Ancients and creates his master plan. He would use something called the black materia, with this, he would summon Meteor, the most powerful force known. When Meteor hits the earth, it will injure the planet so badly that an immense amount of lifestream would be sent to the wound by the planet to try and heal itself. Sephiroth would wait in the wound and merge with the lifestream and become one with the planet.

http://www.tao.cx/tos/story.html