Ryu Hayabusa and Ayane vs Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart

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Originally posted by Mesirus
He is considering the points, thus not a hater, unlike you

He said the samething I said. . . 😕

We have given points...and yet we are haters...I wonder if we need a Cloud account in order not to be haters.

Actually, I changed my mind. Cloud and Tifa would more than likely win against Ryu and Ayane because of the number of materia they have access to. Plus, in terms of skill, Ryu and Cloud are just about equal to each other. I've seen Advent Children and played Ninja Gaiden; Cloud and Ryu have pretty much the same skills. That has little to do with the number of materia spells that are in the Final Fantasy 7 universe. Here's the list of all the materia found in the game: http://www.squarenation.com/ffvii/info/materia_list.php. More about Materia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materia.

Not only that, Final Fantasy characters have really powerful limits. Cloud has the Omnislash version 5 Limit Break and Tifa's most powerful Limit is Final Heaven, which she does in Kingdom Hearts 2 by the way. As for Ryu, he has some powerful spells of his own, such as Inazuma, Ice Storm, and Inferno, as well as a really powerful energy attack. Ayane has Ninpo techniques which are quite impressive. Anyway, here's my ratings for the teams.

Cloud and Tifa: 52%

Ryu and Ayane: 48%

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
We have given points...and yet we are haters...I wonder if we need a Cloud account in order not to be haters.

wow, talk about childish. By reading your posts i can tell you made up your mind before you read the conditions, to a degree. besides, not about to argue over something as trivial as this

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Actually, I changed my mind. Cloud and Tifa would more than likely win against Ryu and Ayane because of the number of materia they have access to. Plus, in terms of skill, Ryu and Cloud are just about equal to each other. I've seen Advent Children and played Ninja Gaiden; Cloud and Ryu have pretty much the same skills. That has little to do with the number of materia spells that are in the Final Fantasy 7 universe. Here's the list of all the materia found in the game: http://www.squarenation.com/ffvii/info/materia_list.php. More about Materia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materia.

Not only that, Final Fantasy characters have really powerful limits. Cloud has the Omnislash version 5 Limit Break and Tifa's most powerful Limit is Final Heaven, which she does in Kingdom Hearts 2 by the way. As for Ryu, he has some powerful spells of his own, such as Inazuma, Ice Storm, and Inferno, as well as a really powerful energy attack. Ayane has Ninpo techniques which are quite impressive. Anyway, here's my ratings for the teams.

Cloud and Tifa: 52%

Ryu and Ayane: 48%

To counter the ninpo magic, both Cloud and Tifa have Magic Materia (Thunder for Tifa while Cloud has Fire Materia)

There goes your argument about them winning because of materia. Thunder and Fire even while mastered are not enough to put Ryu & Ayane down. To be honest I don't see any of Cloud's limit break to pose a great danger for Ryu. If all goes wrong he can just teleport out of harm's way.

Look I don't feel like arguing anymore in this I'm tired. If you believe Ryu and Ayane wins then sure.

I don't feel like arguing either, but I felt like telling you that for this matchup Cloud & Tifa are limited to fire & thunder materia. So your argument--while true that FF7's materia system is cheap and uber powerful--does not come into play in this. So yeah I'm siding out of this one too.

Well Ryu has five ki slots and a whole bunch of items to replenish ki and he has lol if you played ninja gaiden black ryu has this inscense kettle or whatever that he gets from ayane to replenish his ki so in the fight when he runs out of ki he'll ask ayane for the kettle and shell give it to him and in that time kadaj would come up from behind ayane and cut her butt and shed be like whyd the f**ck you do that? and then kadaj and she'll shoot energy blasts at each other and itll look like dbz budokai 3 when two fighters are fighting beams with each other

Ryu would get hungry so he'd leave ayane all by herself but hell be back he would eat his favorite meal(sushi) and then he'd come back with even more power and beat the shit out of ayane who is disguised as kadaj so ryu would kill his own teamate and then kadaj and loz double team ryu and ryu beats loz and ryu and kadaj fight until they agree to a draw

In other words, Ryu and Ayane have limited Ki just like Cloud and Tifa are limited in their Materia. Ryu and Ayane have Ultimate Techniques and Cloud and Tifa have Limit Breaks so this is balanced as it can get.

Cloud and Tifa 10/10.Compared to what C and T have fought Ryu and Ayane are nothing.

Originally posted by superbatman86
Cloud and Tifa 10/10.Compared to what C and T have fought Ryu and Ayane are nothing.

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Wrong.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
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Wrong.

Name one instance of either one either seperately or together fighting anything capable of destroying a planet or even a city.

Originally posted by superbatman86
Name one instance of either one either seperately or together fighting anything capable of destroying a planet or even a city.

Ryu fought in the Underworld and kicked the Devil's ass. He also broke through the Gates of Hell and fought the Holy Vigoor Emperor...an opponent who no other person could match at the time, since he possessed the Dark Dragon Blade. Ryu was successful against him since he had a weapon that could challenge the Dark Dragon Blade's power, the True Dragon Sword.

What's your point? Sora held his own against Sephiroth and I know he and Ryu could hold their own against each other.

I say it's still tied though.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Ryu fought in the Underworld and kicked the Devil's ass. He also broke through the Gates of Hell and fought the Holy Vigoor Emperor...an opponent who no other person could match at the time, since he possessed the Dark Dragon Blade. Ryu was successful against him since he had a weapon that could challenge the Dark Dragon Blade's power, the True Dragon Sword.

What's your point? Sora held his own against Sephiroth and I know he and Ryu could hold their own against each other.

One neither was a I'm gonna detroy the world threat and two -KH=Non-Cannon for ff7

What exactly do you mean by planet or city destroying? Please don't tell me you're talking about Super Nova, and need I remind you in FF7 CLoud & Tifa didn't tackle the dangers by themselves. Be specific about what you're tyring to bring to the argument. Who or what exactly did Cloud & Tifa fight by themselves that was capable of destroying the whole planet or a city, Super Nova & Meteor excluded for obvious reasons.

Originally posted by superbatman86
One neither was a I'm gonna detroy the world threat and two -KH=Non-Cannon for ff7

The same authors created Final Fantasy 7 and Kingdom Hearts 2. Sephiroth was made equal in both games. Square Enix did not make Sephiroth in KH more or less stronger than in FF7. While he is not canonical to the FF7 universe, he is still the same in terms of power and skill. Both have the same exact list of attacks, and as long as nothing in KH contradicts Sephiroth in Final Fantasy 7, then there's nothing to argue about.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
What exactly do you mean by planet or city destroying? Please don't tell me you're talking about Super Nova, and need I remind you in FF7 CLoud & Tifa didn't tackle the dangers by themselves. Be specific about what you're tyring to bring to the argument. Who or what exactly did Cloud & Tifa fight by themselves that was capable of destroying the whole planet or a city, Super Nova & Meteor excluded for obvious reasons.

It doesn't matter because Cloud and Tifa can't destroy a planet either way.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
What exactly do you mean by planet or city destroying? Please don't tell me you're talking about Super Nova, and need I remind you in FF7 CLoud & Tifa didn't tackle the dangers by themselves. Be specific about what you're tyring to bring to the argument. Who or what exactly did Cloud & Tifa fight by themselves that was capable of destroying the whole planet or a city, Super Nova & Meteor excluded for obvious reasons.

I also wanted to say Sephiroth never did destroy the planet otherwise it would have wiped everything out, including the cast of FF7.

This is a draw btw; I've proved that twice already.