Obi Wan Kenobi (TPM) vs Anakin Skywalker (AOTC)

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Anakin Wins. 😉

I'd say the fight would resemble Dooku vs. Yoda, in terms of power relationship. Count Dooku did give Yoda a considerable fight, but it was quite obvious that Yoda was dominating the fight completely and was going to win.

TPM Kenobi, for about five seconds, did very well against Maul. But, ten years later, Obi-Wan gets owned by Dooku. Dooku did clearly defeat Anakin, too, but Anakin proved to be a problem.

I'd say AotC Anakin would win.

yea, im beginning to switch my opinion to Anakin more often than not.

TPM Kenobi, for about five seconds, did very well against Maul. But, ten years later, Obi-Wan gets owned by Dooku. Dooku did clearly defeat Anakin, too, but Anakin proved to be a problem.

Obi-Wan Kenobi switched forms. As a Padawan, he spent ten years LEARNING ATARU, but then after TPM, he went back to lightsaber traning and then spent ten years LEARNING Soresu. Basically, he kinda started all over, which is the reason why he isn't really powerful by AOTC. If he had continued Ataru, he certainly would have been more powerful than his Soresu AOTC self.

And I certainly believe Kenobi could give a stronger fight than Anakin against Dooku. Did you see how slow Anakin's blows were. Heck, if I was out there, I could have pwned him. Kenobi was at least fast against Maul. Even if he was using anger in the beginning part of the duel against Maul, didn't he calm down and then sliced Maul's saber in half.

Besides, when AOTC Anakin also used anger like Obi-Wan. I mean, Dooku killed a bunch of Jedi and wounded his master. And still, he got pwned by a TOYING Dooku.

In addition, AOTC Anakin is arrogant. He'll automatically assume Kenobi stinks since he's a Padawan (the topknot) and Anakin surpassed a bunch of Padawans when he began his training. Obi's clear focused mind will make him win somehow.

You cant say that Anakin would take OB1 lightly, you don't know what he would "think". The duel in AOTC was "hidden" in essence to build up the duel in ROTS. Anakin did better for a reason...cause he's an overall stronger padawan. OB1 went down off two little sissy love taps, Anakin got fried with lightning and still saved his master. By the same regards, Dooku's blows were just as slow, so you cant judge someones powers on that 30 second fight. Not a minute later Dooku was in a fast fight with Yoda, so what we saw didn't accurately portray Anakin's abilities. He was going faster against the creatures on th conveyor belt. Anakin did better against Dooku than OB1 did in both movies, so now I'm more inclined to say that Anakin would win.

No Kenobi didn't calm down til Maul pushed him in the hole. So when he broke his saber he was still using the darkside, the novel describes this.

I agree that Anakin is slightly stronegr but I think he'll lose cause he'll make a mistake and f*ck up.

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Obi Wan wins with difficulty

Anakin wins, he did last longer against Dooku in the lightsaber portion of their battles. And for Kenobi to trust his apprentice with his lightsaber requires a lot of faith, especially since Anakin had no practice in dual wielding.

Depends. Is this normal Kenobi, or Kenobi while he's having one of his famous temper tantrums? (EX: When Qui-Gon was killed), The outcome of this fight depends on that.

Originally posted by Dolos
Anakin wins, he did last longer against Dooku in the lightsaber portion of their battles. And for Kenobi to trust his apprentice with his lightsaber requires a lot of faith, especially since Anakin had no practice in dual wielding.
Yes, your correct for the lightsaber portion of the battle. However, in all out, Kenobi technically lasted longer than Anakin, because we see Anakin is hit with force lightning as soon as he engaged the count - whereas Kenobi saw this coming and was patient.

Also, Anakin lasting longer against Dooku for the lightsaber portion of the battle longer than Kenobi did doesn't necessarily mean that he'd do better against Obi Wan. Remember Anakin defeated Dooku very quickly in ROTS but had a way longer duel against his master.

I also think Anakin did have practise in dual weilding, as we also see in the clone wars series Obi Wan take on both Maul and Savage using 2 blades, even though we never see him with previous experience. And seeing after the events of AOTC that they are both busy with the Clone wars, we can assume that the majority of their lightsaber training went in between the events of TPM and AOTC (10 years). From there, the clone wars provided Anakin with experience and application of his skills with a lightsaber.

Length of fight with Dooku doesn't mean anything. Both of them are inferior to Dooku. How long it takes before their lack of skill is exposed is unpredictable. By chance Dooku fought Anakin longer. Kenobi he won through saber lock, which could happen at any point of the fight.

Originally posted by Arhael
Length of fight with Dooku doesn't mean anything. Both of them are inferior to Dooku. How long it takes before their lack of skill is exposed is unpredictable. By chance Dooku fought Anakin longer. Kenobi he won through saber lock, which could happen at any point of the fight.
That's true, I only pointed this out to Dolos because he believes Anakin wins due to Anakin's longer lightsaber duel.

Originally posted by mnat801
That's true, I only pointed this out to Dolos because he believes Anakin wins due to Anakin's longer lightsaber duel.

Well Anakin should have lasted longer. He tried 2 different styles on Dooku. First Jar Kai, then normal fencing. Plus Dooku had just been in a fight immediately prior to Anakin engaging him.

Anakin was probably a little stronger, but Obi-Wan would win. This Anakin was just an impatient Padawan. He'll likely crop up at some point.

Anakin is more powerful and probably a better duelist but something is telling me he'd still lose. I don't know, Kenobi's showing against Maul was more impressive than Anakin's against Dooku.

Kenobi and with some difficulty

I would say that it is fair to assume that their skill was equal. Anakin is already Jedi for 10 years, it makes sense that he already learned all the moves from his Master. After all they both equally improved since AotC later.

Anakin wins. Star Wars Fact File #100 says Anakin forced Dooku to dig deeper into his skills to beat him in AOTC (which is corroborated by both the script and novelization), whereas Obi-Wan's defeat was "casual."