Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The so-called religion of Atheism!
Originally posted by Impediment
Again with the name calling, JIA. You are truly a hippocrite. First it was Crosspatch, now it's Morgoth..............What would Jesus say?
But you were a crosspatch (i.e. a grouch). I call a spade a spade. There is such a thing as a grouch. Morgoth is a forum name.
Athiesm is a religion, all religions have a belief, atheists believe there is no god. Atheists believe that THEY know what's right and wrong and a god doesn't need to tell them what to do. (what i ment by atheists thinking they are god)
Religions are different views on what is right and wrong, usually these rules come from a powerful being that, in it's wiseness knows what right and wrong is.
In other words, being atheist is thinking you are wise enough to know what is right and wrong, it's quite ironic, because some atheists think that they evolved from apes 😖 which are infact the opposite.
Atheism has alot in common with Satanism, except satanism actually says that man is god(or to them, satan).
Originally posted by Emo?This is very ignorant. Atheists don't choose moralities by themselves, even though they have independant thought, (which is something [other] religions don't have) they learn their morality from society, not a 2000 year old book.
Athiesm is a religion, all religions have a belief, atheists believe there is no god. Atheists believe that THEY know what's right and wrong and a god doesn't need to tell them what to do. (what i ment by atheists thinking they are god)
Originally posted by Emo?These rules don't come from a powerful being, there is no such thing. Views on right and wrong differ from person to person, an atheist decides right and wrong for himself, everyone has a different view on right and wrong. You clearly don't see that. You, like JIA, treat religion like we treat science, as if religion matters and they're all right, or only one of them is right, so you better pick one. That of course is not the case.
Religions are different views on what is right and wrong, usually these rules come from a powerful being that, in it's wiseness knows what right and wrong is.
Originally posted by Emo?What? Ermm, if you are talking about the Scientific theory of evolution, then yes. And, EVERY atheist believes it, in fact, CHRISTIANS believe it. More people believe in evolution than don't.
In other words, being atheist is thinking you are wise enough to know what is right and wrong, it's quite ironic, because some atheists think that they evolved from apes 😖
Originally posted by Emo?WTF? 😆
which are infact the opposite.
Originally posted by Emo?Utter crap. You are very ignorant, clearly don't understand Atheism, Satanism, religion and evolution.
Atheism has alot in common with Satanism, except satanism actually says that man is god(or to them, satan).
Originally posted by Emo?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
You using wikipedia as a reference, which says the exact opposite of what you said,
Religion is a system of social coherence
Since atheists are independant, not very many of them know of eachother, or meet with eachother to talk about atheism.
based on a common group of beliefs or attitudes concerning an object, person, unseen being, or system of thought considered to be supernatural, sacred, divine or highest truth, and the moral codes, practices, values, institutions, and rituals associated with such belief or system of thought.
No atheist believes any of this.
It is sometimes used interchangeably with "faith" or "belief system", but is more socially defined than that of personal convictions.
Doesn't sound like an atheist to me.
The development of religion has taken many forms in various cultures. "Organized religion" generally refers to an organization of people supporting the exercise of some religion with a prescribed set of beliefs, often taking the form of a legal entity (see religion-supporting organization). Other religions believe in personal revelation and responsibility.
Once again, not what Atheists do.
Your reference has backfired, your statements have been debunked, your side of the debate is weaker than a stick insect, and you even managed to prove yourself wrong. Next time, think about what you're talking about. Please, for the love of humanity.
Originally posted by Emo?Everyone has "beliefs". I believe that Angelina Jolie is walking sex. I believe that raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens are some of Maria's favourite things. And I believe that some people in this world are ignorant, and you are proof positive that this belief is accurate. Atheism is a lack of spiritual belief in a supernatural deity, either because one decides that available evidence indicates there is no supernatural deity or based on available evidence there is no foundation for a belief in a supernatural deity; strong and weak atheism respectively.
Athiesm is a religion, all religions have a belief, atheists believe there is no god. Atheists believe that THEY know what's right and wrong and a god doesn't need to tell them what to do. (what i ment by atheists thinking they are god)
Originally posted by Emo?You mean from a book written and edited by men who wished to retain an authority over the religions followers. Religion is not just "views on what is right and wrong", religion is spiritual belief in a supernatural deity or deities, and observance of rituals and rules in accordance with these spiritual beliefs.
Religions are different views on what is right and wrong, usually these rules come from a powerful being that, in it's wiseness knows what right and wrong is.
Originally posted by Emo?A Luddite with poor grammar. Not surprising.
In other words, being atheist is thinking you are wise enough to know what is right and wrong, it's quite ironic, because some atheists think that they evolved from apes 😖 which are infact the opposite.
Originally posted by Emo?As stated by others already you clearly know nothing beyond the confines of your religion, so perhaps from now on you should refrain from commenting on things beyond you lest it serve to make you look even more retarded.
Atheism has alot in common with Satanism, except satanism actually says that man is god(or to them, satan).
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Everyone has "beliefs". I believe that Angelina Jolie is walking sex. I believe that raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens are some of Maria's favourite things. And I believe that some people in this world are ignorant, and you are proof positive that this belief is accurate. Atheism is a lack of spiritual belief in a supernatural deity, either because one decides that available evidence indicates there is no supernatural deity or based on available evidence there is no foundation for a belief in a supernatural deity; strong and weak atheism respectively.
You mean from a book written and edited by men who wished to retain an authority over the religions followers. Religion is not just "views on what is right and wrong", religion is spiritual belief in a supernatural deity or deities, and observance of rituals and rules in accordance with these spiritual beliefs.
A Luddite with poor grammar. Not surprising.
As stated by others already you clearly know nothing beyond the confines of your religion, so perhaps from now on you should refrain from commenting on things beyond you lest it serve to make you look even more retarded.
I bet this is xmarksthespot talking I can tell by how livid the post is (looks up at the name in the post). [I]Originally posted by xmarksthespot [/I, I guess I was right.
If you really think you (or anyone else on here) can make me "livid" you sorely overestimate yourself. Do continue trolling though. Then perhaps you'll finally be banned. Or perhaps rather than display your amazing wit, or the lack thereof, you could take some time to actually respond to the numerous posts countering yours and questions raised against you. You know, in all those threads you slip out of when they don't go your way, you know, the ones from which you retreat due to ineptitude. Just a thought.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If you really think you (or anyone else on here) can make me "livid" you sorely overestimate yourself. Do continue trolling though. Then perhaps you'll finally be banned. Or perhaps rather than display your amazing wit, or the lack thereof, you could take some time to actually respond to the numerous posts countering yours and questions raised against you. You know, in all those threads you slip out of when they don't go your way, you know, the ones from which you retreat due to ineptitude. Just a thought.
I like the fire!
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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I like the fire!😆
You are such a loser bro ❌
You need to find something better to do than troll on these forums. You're not even a serious speaker on these forums bro. I pretty much figured it out. You're just here to annoy everybody, and it's getting old. Go find something to do..shoo !
Originally posted by Lord UrizenI sent him a PM to see if he really believed all the Bible shit.
You are such a loser bro ❌You need to find something better to do than troll on these forums. You're not even a serious speaker on these forums bro. I pretty much figured it out. You're just here to annoy everybody, and it's getting old. Go find something to do..shoo !
I'm still waiting for a reply.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveDude, that post is probably one of the best posts I've ever seen. Explains in good detail about atheism, and explains how Emo? is wrong.
I bet this is xmarksthespot talking I can tell by how livid the post is (looks up at the name in the post). [I]Originally posted by xmarksthespot [/I, I guess I was right.
theres a difference between fundamental belief in basic trail of thougths and BELIEFS like organised relegion. when a person walks he BELIEVES he touches the ground which gives him the ok to walk without worrying of falling into a void. that sort of basic instinct is very different from HIGHER beliefs etc. to NOT believe in god and be neutral is more basic and less complicated thing than higher beliefs like relegion. as such bringing them in the same category is misleading, often many relegious believers using this as an excuse to wrongly try and convey the fact that atheism is just like normal relegion and isnt any BETTER as it has the same fundamentals as the very relegions it tries to disprove. higher belief can be said to be belief in things without evidence or proof often without opposing plausable arguments available. while simpler INSTINCTUAL belief which is very different and more logical than those higher beliefs looks at logic and doesnt believe without seeing evidence/proof making it a LOT better than higher belief, not to mention true not suffering from the higher's fundamentals. while the very BASIC belief for survival like processing basic info etc is even lower than that. so there, if you consider a RELEGION a belief than u cant say atheism is.
{eg. joe tells jane "there is an invisible monster in their house which only he can see and hear. jane doesnt see any reason to believe this and says she doesnt believe him. joe says the fact that she doesnt believe is a BELIEF and since both he and she have a BELIEF, neither is truer and there is as much chance of a monster being there as of not being there.} now obviously this isnt true jane is more right than joe but by using psuedo logic joe is trying to discredit her DISBELIEF as being on the same ground and having the same validity as his belief.
this is the way most believers try to discredit the validity of atheism as sumthin as stupid as normal relegion{although not in so many words and sumtimes they dont know it themselves but this is the driving force behind the debate}