Originally posted by San'Doria
yes but again what good would tapping into the mind of an opponent do? You said bane would get drained after blasting revan, why would revan need to tap into his mind?
No, apply the ability to tap peoples minds, rip languages from their heads, force knowledge on them against their will, it would be a simple matter to destroy Banes brain, force him to kill himself, mind rape him, or just simply tool him with the force.
Im going to bed
Bane is a sith lord, how sure of you that he cant defend against that, Does tapping in the mind of a sith make you god? O then vader must be god because he could do what revan did.i dont know about Banes will but sith power comes from the will, and Bane is definately strong willed,
He can just deny what revan put in him
Originally posted by AcStylesVer01
No, apply the ability to tap peoples minds, rip languages from their heads, force knowledge on them against their will, it would be a simple matter to destroy Banes brain, force him to kill himself, mind rape him, or just simply tool him with the force.Im going to bed
The only problem with your argument is you're comparing the Rakatans' mind to that of a very powerful sith lord like Bane. This is why force users can't simply do a mind trick on other force users.. So tricking Bane with the force won't work, especially because of Bane's cunning. But he would eventually overcome him with the force..
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
The only problem with your argument is you're comparing the Rakatans' mind to that of a very powerful sith lord like Bane. This is why force users can't simply do a mind trick on other force users.. So tricking Bane with the force won't work, especially because of Bane's cunning. But he would eventually overcome him with the force..
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
The only problem with your argument is you're comparing the Rakatans' mind to that of a very powerful sith lord like Bane. This is why force users can't simply do a mind trick on other force users.. So tricking Bane with the force won't work, especially because of Bane's cunning. But he would eventually overcome him with the force..
Notice, I said when Bane had already let his attack go, his force wave, is when Revan could mind rape him, then and only then, since PoD states that after unleashing an attack of that magnitude it completely drained him, that means he can't put up a shield to protect himself or if he could Revan could easily break it. Also I was just giving examples of the many ways Revan could beat Bane, No amount of cunning will protect him from getting force choked, destroying his brain, or getting obliterated by a Force Storm. This really isn't a contest the only way Bane could win is in a long drawn out Lightsaber duel and Revan is completely drained of his energy, and that is simply because of his stupid armour (**** you KJA you make me vomit) any other way Revan wins, Bane does not compare to Revan in the force, Revan had the will to overpower an entire planet full of primal Sith energy and feed on it to make himself stronger, In knowledge of the Sith Revan has more too, he has multiple Holocrons from Malachor, many artifacts form Malachor of and Malachor itself was basically a planet sized library/training ground for the Sith.
Quinlan Vos and Revan are my top two Favs, both are total badasses. And both have touched the Dark Side. For those of you who've played KOTOR2, you learn (if at the beginning you said Revan turned to the dark side) that when Revan left know space, that many tried to use the Star Forge and claim its power for themselves, but all failed and died. So I ask you, if Bane was more powerful then Revan why didn't he take it for himself? Was it because he didn't think he had the power, did he even? Darth Revan is more powerful then Bane. As for Bane moving Dxun, big deal. The Vong had a moon crash into a planet, and they can't even use the Force. So go a head and try me Manslayer, you know little of the Dark Side of the Force. And even less of English.
Originally posted by Cade_Skywalker
For those of you who've played KOTOR2, you learn (if at the beginning you said Revan turned to the dark side) that when Revan left know space, that many tried to use the Star Forge and claim its power for themselves, but all failed and died.
But then you realize that the dark side ending of KotOR is non-canon, as it has been confirmed that the Star Forge is destroyed at the end (ergo, light side ending was canonical).
I ask you, if Bane was more powerful then Revan why didn't he take it for himself?
You would think it had something to do with the fact the Star Forge was nonexistent at that time.
And to prove that,
"Malak was nearly unstoppable, but the Republic emerged from that epic conflict victorious, as the Star Forge was eventually destroyed." (Star Wars databank, Darth Malak).
QED.
Was it because he didn't think he had the power, did he even?
No, it was because the Star Forge was destroyed after KotOR.
Darth Revan is more powerful then Bane.
To conclude something like that would be completely faulty, insomuch as you're operating under a false assumption begin with. There was no Star Forge during Bane's era, ergo your argument holds no water.
As for Bane moving Dxun, big deal.
Right, because even assuming for argument's sake that Bane did nudge a moon, that's a massive display of telekinetic ability, far greater than anything we see Jedi like Yoda do (who has been stated by the omniscient narrator as being the strongest Jedi up to the point of RotS; which includes Revan).
The Vong had a moon crash into a planet, and they can't even use the Force.
True, but what you failed to mention (most likely because it would destroy your point), is that dovin basals are used for the purpose of gravity manipulation.
They can create miniature voids to block all types of oncoming fire, and create "gravitic anomalies" to the point where they can prevent any ship from hyperspace travel. Dovin basals are extremely powerful creatures, whether or not they possess the Force is irrelevant because they have an ability that makes up for it (in this case). Again, another moot point.
So go a head and try me Manslayer, you know little of the Dark Side of the Force. And even less of English.
And you know even less of logic, Star Wars, and everything in between.
Originally posted by Cade_Skywalker
This isn't about Nihilus, this is about Bane and Revan. And it's never said that the star forge crashed into the sun (for the dark side path in KOTOR2). And no it's right after Revan left that the remaining Sith try and use the Forge.
No shit, really I never knew this. 😛 Um yes, otherwise (in the non canon) Nihilus who has shown enough in the force(which is why i mentioned him as an ex.) could have wielded but it fell in the sun cause no one was strong enough to keep it operational.In between the kotor games. But it does not happen because it was destroyed in the canon light side ending. So it does not matter if Bane had the power or not. And btw I wouldn't exactly say that the Bane in POD is his strongest carnation. Especially since he did not have his orbalisk armor.
So go a head and try me Manslayer
Originally posted by Cade_Skywalker
Quinlan Vos and Revan are my top two Favs, both are total badasses. And both have touched the Dark Side. For those of you who've played KOTOR2, you learn (if at the beginning you said Revan turned to the dark side) that when Revan left know space, that many tried to use the Star Forge and claim its power for themselves, but all failed and died. So I ask you, if Bane was more powerful then Revan why didn't he take it for himself? Was it because he didn't think he had the power, did he even? Darth Revan is more powerful then Bane. As for Bane moving Dxun, big deal. The Vong had a moon crash into a planet, and they can't even use the Force. So go a head and try me Manslayer, you know little of the Dark Side of the Force. And even less of English.
You do know when i was argueing bane > revan that time i was being a dumbass on purpose? I never liked revan in the past hence why i was biased. Now i try my best to form cogent arguements which do not defy canon while i do admit sometimes what i post can be nonsense
And dude just to let you know revan is my 3rd favourite character after Sidious and vader
Im not gonna say whos better and start even more argueing and stuff, but i will say that revan has accomplished much more than any other sith/jedi whatever the **** revan is(except for mabye Sidious) plus all the talk about revan not showing what he's capable of is freaking bullshit, and if you dont think so its because he hasnt been writen about as much as all the others, so really i dont even think this is possible to judge this properly since revan hasnt show us what all he's capable of
Originally posted by Kito Fist
plus all the talk about revan not showing what he's capable of is freaking bullshit, and if you dont think so its because he hasnt been writen about as much as all the others, so really i dont even think this is possible to judge this properly since revan hasnt show us what all he's capable of
It isn't bs at all. We know of Revan's feats but we need details of them to make a fair judgment in on them.For instance, we know that he killed Malak on the star forge, based onDuron Qel-Droma's vision a lightsaber duel took place, we don't know how long it lasted, we don't know how hard fought the duel was,did either use any forced powers on the other? That is the type of information we need to make a fair judgment and not just with Revan but with all characters. This does put the kotor (and most videogame-only) characters at a disadvantage for the moment but it is better this way then to listen to fanboys go on and on put their own bias input when the list Revan's feats.
Right now Revan is a virtual "unknown" and we are now trying to use him vs matches less and less till more details are released.