so girly...
sorry for butting in
but man in this thread keeps on calling names such as "fanboy"
well infact he is obviously the opposite..
pheonix fanboy?? well he's phoenix hateboy
what a nice name ^_^
sorry, sad to say im not a fanboy
coz im a girl...!! ^_^
DP can just use her TK to disintegrate DS
or telephaty to knock him down
& even if she in case got hit by DS' blasts
she can still resurrect because rising from the ashes is what Phoenix does
u cannot defeat her in her universe because she is the sum of all life force..& all that is living
so if you want to kill the sum,,
well you have to kill all that makes the sum
and that is..all the other living things..
i think you dont need a scan for you to understand that right?
wellin fact, even if i provide a scan you'll probably wont listen
coz your mind is already set & closed for the ours
you said that nobody would listen even if you provide scans..
so what's your purpose here? call them names i guess?
Re: so girly...
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
sorry for butting in
but man in this thread keeps on calling names such as "fanboy"
well infact he is obviously the opposite..
pheonix fanboy?? well he's phoenix hateboy
what a nice name ^_^
sorry, sad to say im not a fanboy
coz im a girl...!! ^_^
DP can just use her TK to disintegrate DS
or telephaty to knock him down
& even if she in case got hit by DS' blasts
she can still resurrect because rising from the ashes is what Phoenix does
u cannot defeat her in her universe because she is the sum of all life force..& all that is living
so if you want to kill the sum,,
well you have to kill all that makes the sum
and that is..all the other living things..
i think you dont need a scan for you to understand that right?
wellin fact, even if i provide a scan you'll probably wont listen
coz your mind is already set & closed for the ours
you said that nobody would listen even if you provide scans..
so what's your purpose here? call them names i guess?
Well said but it is some things you don't understand.
First of all, DS far is too durable to be disintegrated by her (I know you are referring to the movie though).
Very not wise to say such things.
Second, DS has awesome mind control abilities and we all know that DP can be mind controlled. Also, DS has super matter manipulating abilities. He can turn the host of Phoenix into soap.
Third, we are talking about DP and not PF.
The difference is that Phoenix has a host in DP.
If the host gets erased from existance or turned into a table then it is over. There is no bringing the host back from oblivion (even though if DS just kills her then PF can't bring a host back to life anyway without the lifeforce of others).
Re: so girly...
Originally posted by Elie4lyfWhat you described there would be killing her though. Therefore a win. Yeah, she might come back. So would Wolverine after someone like Superman punched him to death. Lots of characters.
sorry for butting in
but man in this thread keeps on calling names such as "fanboy"
well infact he is obviously the opposite..
pheonix fanboy?? well he's phoenix hateboy
what a nice name ^_^
sorry, sad to say im not a fanboy
coz im a girl...!! ^_^
DP can just use her TK to disintegrate DS
or telephaty to knock him down
& even if she in case got hit by DS' blasts
she can still resurrect because rising from the ashes is what Phoenix does
u cannot defeat her in her universe because she is the sum of all life force..& all that is living
so if you want to kill the sum,,
well you have to kill all that makes the sum
and that is..all the other living things..
i think you dont need a scan for you to understand that right?
wellin fact, even if i provide a scan you'll probably wont listen
coz your mind is already set & closed for the ours
you said that nobody would listen even if you provide scans..
so what's your purpose here? call them names i guess?
Originally posted by Ext@ntLook at that scan again, it was breaking down the multiverse, Roma then SPECULATED that it COULD MAYBE begin to go omniversal. She didn't know for sure obviously, otherwise it would have been stated outright rather than Probably/maybe/could be/ almost.
Wow, you just kept being wrong there.In one of Mr M's scans, it is said that Wanda's chaoswave is starting to harm the Omniverse and could destory it if left unfixed.
Phoenix shoots fire, read Phoenix: Warsong.
Fire travels slower then light.
You have a real issue getting your facts straight.
Re: Re: so girly...
Originally posted by Juntai
Jean dies and comes back years later.
Come on Jun you know thats not true.
She dies for a reason and returns where and when she is needed. In the context of this forum battle she can render herself completely invulnerable to harm, or if she is wounded she ca regenerate instantly, or return from the dead instantly as we saw in Endsong.
Originally posted by Juntai
Look at that scan again, it was breaking down the multiverse, Roma then SPECULATED that it COULD MAYBE begin to go omniversal. She didn't know for sure obviously, otherwise it would have been stated outright rather than Probably/maybe/could be/ almost.
Agreed. Plus it only ever affected one reality and all that damage Roma speculated it was capable of was only possible if it was left unchecked.
When the chaos wave was tackled head on, Meggan of Excalibur stopped it in its tracks and then the problem was resolved by merely closing the dimensional tear that caused the wave in the first place.
The chaos wave is no big threat if dealt with directly.
Re: Re: Re: so girly...
Originally posted by GalacticStormEndsong Pheonix is much farther along her evolutionary scale than when she was Dark Pheonix. Dark Pheonix on panel wasn't very impressive to me. She destroyed a solar system with a chain effect from causing a sun to nova. Darkseid has moved planets around the universe with his mind alone.
Come on Jun you know thats not true.She dies for a reason and returns where and when she is needed. In the context of this forum battle she can render herself completely invulnerable to harm, or if she is wounded she ca regenerate instantly, or return from the dead instantly as we saw in Endsong.
I never said who would win, I was just making points.
Originally posted by GalacticStormPre-Crisis actually is canon, though its' tough to differentiate between certain elements. Like Kal for example, still did all of that stuff he did pre-crisis, but then he was depowered. Hal still did all his pre-crisis stuff, in fact, besides a minor change, all his pre-crisis stuff still stands today as his history. Some of it has even been mentioned early in Justice League issues and even in some GL issues.
Nope. Crisis occurred in 1985. That crossover was before that. Pre Crisis was the true DS. It was not an avatar. Either way its not canon.
Originally posted by GalacticStormI don't know about all of that, I thought HoM was a joke/gimmick, it was a "Zero Hour" [though I like Zero Hour, I'm one in a million on that one.] for Marvel, in which some continuity was changed enough that one may not know whats going to happen afterwards, even the promo for the latest Dr Strange book said it would "set his place in the current universe" implying to me that not all is the same....but at the same time, not much changed at all due to HoM.
Agreed. Plus it only ever affected one reality and all that damage Roma speculated it was capable of was only possible if it was left unchecked.When the chaos wave was tackled head on, Meggan of Excalibur stopped it in its tracks and then the problem was resolved by merely closing the dimensional tear that caused the wave in the first place.
The chaos wave is no big threat if dealt with directly.
But I'll stand by what I said up there about Roma, I know that part. I seen the scan myself.
Originally posted by Ext@nt
Mr M has already shown on this thread that her power has the ability to destory the Omniverse, I just said I wasn't going to waste my time repeating it to you.Phoenix shoot a blast of fire which doesnt move as fast as Darkseid's OB's and I don't see Darkseid having any trouble taking a hit from Phoenix.
The chaos wave farce has been dealt with. Its only a threat if left to run rampant. Why would anyone do that? This is a versus forum so the things it could do if left to roam uninhibited just dont apply.
When it was tackled it was dealt with rather easily by a band of mutants.
Phoenix isnt limited to fire what are you talking about? Youre just highlighting your ignorance of the character. No wonder you think shes so rubbish. 😆
Phoenix can generate any energy in virtually any amount. She can manipulate matter and energy at the sub atomic so she can basically do anything. Dark Phoenix was a deranged version of this Phoenix who had psychic circuit breakers in place limiting her temporarily from her full power level. She was however beyond Galactus level as stated.
Pre Crisis DS was stated by his creator to be around Galactus level. Darkseids performance against Dark Phoenix in the admittedly non canon crossover also gives you an idea of how the powers stand up to each other in the scheme of things.
If Dark Phoenix doesnt want to be destroyed she will not be. She is the Phoenix Force manifest and is in essence therefore completely indestructible. Blast apart her mortal form and she'll just form again straightaway, or she can render herself beyond physical harm.
Re: Re: Re: Re: so girly...
Originally posted by Juntai
Endsong Pheonix is much farther along her evolutionary scale than when she was Dark Pheonix. Dark Pheonix on panel wasn't very impressive to me. She destroyed a solar system with a chain effect from causing a sun to nova. Darkseid has moved planets around the universe with his mind alone.I never said who would win, I was just making points.
Theres no real difference between Dark Phoenix and Phoenix. Th eonly difference is that DP was deranged and more ruthless. Plus she had circuit breakers in place which temporarily lmited her from her full power level, however by the end of the Saha she had broken them down which is why Jean killed herself, because of the threat her evil persona posed.