Originally posted by Juntaiwe arent talking about other showings we aregoing off of the known knowledge of what powers the uniforce bestows on people
You can't use the other showings, because it's different powers being amplified and to different degrees. Also, some manifestations of CU power have granted extra powers it doesn't normally give, and at other times, not given basic ones typically given to all wielders.
Originally posted by lando005
the uni force is not the black rock stop using abc logic
Never said that they were, I just said they are similar.
Start using examples besides "I just know Spidey wins!"
Here is another...
2 feats in one...
Interstellar hearing and faster than light travel to a different galaxy and back.
Basically the same feat that Surfer pulled Post upgrade in Annihilation.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindBeautiful Jim Lee artwork.
Never said that they were, I just said they are similar.Start using examples besides "I just know Spidey wins!"
Here is another...
2 feats in one...
Interstellar hearing and faster than light travel to a different galaxy and back.
Basically the same feat that Surfer pulled Post upgrade in Annihilation.
On that note, I picked up Wildcats today.
Originally posted by lando005
the uni force is not the black rock stop using abc logic
No, actually he's showing something that's very comparable to the uni-force. You know, that's how people debate?
Superman actually has FEATS to go by in order to say he wins this. Spider-man has virtually NADA.
Superman 6/10.
Originally posted by Juntai
Beautiful Jim Lee artwork.
-drool.-On that note, I picked up Wildcats today.
Is the new series any good? I stopped reading the original one years ago.
Let's post more of the "ultimate" Superman used in this thread...
Superman turning the endless millwheels of Mageddon. Mageddons size dwarfs the solar system....an incredible strength feat.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewindi'm using deductive reasoning, we knoow what the uniforce is capable of we know how both spider-man and superman fight based on all of the new powers and abilites at cosmic spidys disposal and his resorceful nature i belive he will take the majority, can i use scans? no unlike uberman over there cosmic spidy wasnt around very long, sure it's easy for you to post up scans of sups doing amazing feats because he's only been around since the depression, and if you really want to get into it i could pull up the spider-man firelord fight
Never said that they were, I just said they are similar.Start using examples besides "I just know Spidey wins!"
Here is another...
2 feats in one...
Interstellar hearing and faster than light travel to a different galaxy and back.
Basically the same feat that Surfer pulled Post upgrade in Annihilation.
Originally posted by lando005
i'm using deductive reasoning, we knoow what the uniforce is capable of we know how both spider-man and superman fight based on all of the new powers and abilites at cosmic spidys disposal and his resorceful nature i belive he will take the majority, can i use scans? no unlike uberman over there cosmic spidy wasnt around very long, sure it's easy for you to post up scans of sups doing amazing feats because he's only been around since the depression, and if you really want to get into it i could pull up the spider-man firelord fight
Hey, if Spidey defeated firelord then Supes would really have had an easy time.
And you are right...they are amazing feats...which he pulls on a regular basis...his respect forum alone is over 35 pages.
A 50x increase isn't putting Spidey in a FULLY POWERED Superman league no matter how you cut it.
Originally posted by lando005Basically you've got nothing in the proof or debating department here besides deep love for Spiderman?
i'm using deductive reasoning, we knoow what the uniforce is capable of we know how both spider-man and superman fight based on all of the new powers and abilites at cosmic spidys disposal and his resorceful nature i belive he will take the majority, can i use scans? no unlike uberman over there cosmic spidy wasnt around very long, sure it's easy for you to post up scans of sups doing amazing feats because he's only been around since the depression, and if you really want to get into it i could pull up the spider-man firelord fight
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindNot when Superman can crack a moon in half with a single punch.
Hey, if Spidey defeated firelord then Supes would really have had an easy time.And you are right...they are amazing feats...which he pulls on a regular basis...his respect forum alone is over 35 pages.
A 50x increase isn't putting Spidey in a FULLY POWERED Superman league no matter how you cut it.
Originally posted by batdude123"superman has feats cosmic spidy doesnt" real easy to say when you take into count that cosmic spidy was hardly around and when he was he barely understood his powers, but then again a guess in your mind that's fair right? your looking for a way to handicap the fight against spider-man, i could say that cosmic spidy is the more powerful one but just because he is doenst mean he would win it boils down to versitilty experiance and resourcefulness while they are about even in experiance cosmic spidy is the more versitial and resourceful of the 2 which gives him the edge in this battle
No, actually he's showing something that's very comparable to the uni-force. You know, that's how people debate?Superman actually has FEATS to go by in order to say he wins this. Spider-man has virtually NADA.
Superman 6/10.
TRANSMUTATION???!!!
No problem for the last son of Krypton (he even throws in there a pimpsmack):
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15ow2.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25bf.jpg
Originally posted by Juntaiwhere's the proof cosmic spidy was hardly around and didnt even fully understand what he could do? all we have to go off of for an honset assesment of what he can do is use our full understanding of what the uniforce can do and our full understanding of how spiderman fights
Basically you've got nothing in the proof or debating department here besides deep love for Spiderman?
Originally posted by batdude123
TRANSMUTATION???!!!No problem for the last son of Krypton (he even throws in there a pimpsmack):
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15ow2.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25bf.jpg
I think Maxima was transmuting his suit....that's one of her powers after all....
Originally posted by Avalonofthewindthat 50x is only for strenght not all the other attributes
Hey, if Spidey defeated firelord then Supes would really have had an easy time.And you are right...they are amazing feats...which he pulls on a regular basis...his respect forum alone is over 35 pages.
A 50x increase isn't putting Spidey in a FULLY POWERED Superman league no matter how you cut it.
