Originally posted by Juntainow he can control the rate of absorbsion.. is ther anything he cant do and people wonder why so many people find him annoying
Typically it does as he stresses, or angers, or as he needs it. He has a measure of control, but not total.
But this particular thread states control over all of his abilities.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterDo you have something to bring to table for examples of Cosmic Spiderman's durability, flight speed, strength, etc, then?
My point is people keep trying to use the "50x" rule as a basis for their arguments, but negate the statistical outliers for their own characters all of the time, like weaknesses. It's a double standard.Are you saying Surfer is incapable of beating Superman? If all the Superman supporters in the thread think this, then there's no more point in even posting here.
And I believe Superman can beat Surfer, but that Surfer can also beat Superman. But that's another thread, and one I've already probably posted in. This one has to do with Cosmic Spidey.
Originally posted by Juntaisurfer is a pretty cloes match to cs in terms of power and abilities but not application so why is it soo hard to belive that cs can win
Do you have something to bring to table for examples of Cosmic Spiderman's durability, flight speed, strength, etc, then?And I believe Superman can beat Surfer, but that Surfer can also beat Superman. But that's another thread, and one I've already probably posted in. This one has to do with Cosmic Spidey.
Originally posted by Juntai
Do you have something to bring to table for examples of Cosmic Spiderman's durability, flight speed, strength, etc, then?
Reread my stance.
Originally posted by JuntaiBut how, SS doesn't win in any sheer physicality, so what does he do to a character that is virtually immune to everything when the writer deems it so?
And I believe Superman can beat Surfer, but that Surfer can also beat Superman. But that's another thread, and one I've already probably posted in. This one has to do with Cosmic Spidey.
Originally posted by ValidusI agree, my point was that his immunity would make Surfer's tactics as ineffective then.
Surfer is more powerful than CS because in his own comic he defeated what amounted to a Captain Universe Gladiator.
Originally posted by lando005
the reason why he could absorb that energy in the scan was because it was solar based not because superman can absorb energies
Read it again...it's BIO-ENERGY and he's literally drawing it out of her cells.
It still doesn't mean that Spidey won't get his head bashed in, but it's yet another scan on spidey's grave.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewindit says and i quot "it's the bio energy.. it's just converted solar radiation" which pretty much shuts down your whole point there he cant aborb energy that's not solar based
Read it again...it's BIO-ENERGY and he's literally drawing it out of her cells.It still doesn't mean that Spidey won't get his head bashed in, but it's yet another scan on spidey's grave.
Originally posted by lando005
it says and i quot "it's the bio energy.. it's just converted solar radiation" which pretty much shuts down your whole point there he cant aborb energy that's not solar based
What part of "CONVERTED" did you not understand?
It WAS Solar energy CONVERTED to BIO-ENERGY.
Gotta love it...the Spidey fanboys try and divert their "debate" to avoid the simple fact of a KO.
Originally posted by ValidusI agree... but *sigh*. If having a feat for it makes it right and a character a winner, no matter how much it goes beyond the "suspension of belief" then...
There's no such thing as immunity in comics and I call bullshit on anyone who claims otherwise. Just certain levels of tolerance.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindI'm sure he has, but I don't think it would be as extensive as a full-knowledge based Cosmic Character, as potrayed in this thread.
Juntai already addressed that pic...Supes has absorbed energy as well, and this isn't the only time.
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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I agree... but *sigh*. If having a feat for it makes it right and a character a winner, no matter how much it goes beyond the "suspension of belief" then...I'm sure he has, but I don't think it would be as extensive as a full-knowledge based Cosmic Character, as potrayed in this thread.
Never said it was. It's just simply another option. T-vo can be used to screw with Spidey's powerset anyway, but honestly, I don't think it would even be needed.
Even with your Triumph example, Spidey would have to engange in H2H with a fully powered Superman. Not the wisest of choices.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewindand what part of solar based did you not understand? its still solar radiation just refined and processed like crud oil and processed oil.. it's still oil
What part of "CONVERTED" did you not understand?It WAS Solar energy CONVERTED to BIO-ENERGY.
Gotta love it...the Spidey fanboys try and divert their "debate" to avoid the simple fact of a KO.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindI take it "fully powered Superman" is synonymous with "Max Showing Superman"?
Never said it was. It's just simply another option. T-vo can be used to screw with Spidey's powerset anyway, but honestly, I don't think it would even be needed.Even with your Triumph example, Spidey would have to engange in H2H with a fully powered Superman. Not the wisest of choices.
Originally posted by lando005
and what part of solar based did you not understand? its still solar radiation just refined and processed like crud oil and processed oil.. it's still oil
So after your body digests food Superman can touch you and enjoy a whopper with fries?
You can turn electricity back into carbon?
Nice try. 🙂
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I take it "fully powered Superman" is synonymous with "Max Showing Superman"?
What would you equate it to?
Look, throughout his career, Spidey has shown the ability to take shots from people that were WAY ahead of him in the strength department. He's taken shots from Hulk, Juggernaut, Thing, Rhino, etc, so Supes AIN'T gonna get an easy KO when his durability has been boosted by x50.
And Supes is gonna have a hard time landing a shot, since his speed, agility, and Spidersense is x50 also.
Strength wise, WITHOUT the Uni Force, his punches have affected Hulk, Absorbing Man, Rhino, Titiania, Thing, Namor, and Masterson Thor. Now multiply that level of punching power x50, and Supes won't exactly be shrugging off Spideys punches.
And of course, if you want to get into his ridiculously high feats, WITHOUT the Uni Force, he's taken on Silver Surfer(with and without the Carnage Symbiot), beaten Firelord, and staggered Thanos with the IG.(Now like I said, those feats are ridiculous, but if everyone is using all Supes high end feats...)
Also, keep in mind that this is Spidey with FULL control of the Uni Force. Which means that he'll be WAY more powerful than he ever actually appeared in a comic book, because he never demonstrated that level of control/understanding in the comics. But that's the set up of the thread, he's WAY more powerful than he ever actually appeared. If you don't like the set up, then track down Ext@nt, and take it up with him.
On a final note, I'd like to point out that if Supes IS that much stronger than Spidey, he WON'T be going all out for this fight. Why you ask? Well as Mr. Master already explained, if Captain Universe dies, EVERYONE dies. And even though they're fighting to the best of their ability, they're also fighting in character. And there's NO WAY Supes would risk killing someone(and thus killing the entire universe), just to win a fight.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Look, throughout his career, Spidey has shown the ability to take shots from people that were WAY ahead of him in the strength department. He's taken shots from Hulk, Juggernaut, Thing, Rhino, etc, so Supes AIN'T gonna get an easy KO when his durability has been boosted by x50.And Supes is gonna have a hard time landing a shot, since his speed, agility, and Spidersense is x50 also.
Strength wise, WITHOUT the Uni Force, his punches have affected Hulk, Absorbing Man, Rhino, Titiania, Thing, Namor, and Masterson Thor. Now multiply that level of punching power x50, and Supes won't exactly be shrugging off Spideys punches.
And of course, if you want to get into his ridiculously high feats, WITHOUT the Uni Force, he's taken on Silver Surfer(with and without the Carnage Symbiot), beaten Firelord, and staggered Thanos with the IG.(Now like I said, those feats are ridiculous, but if everyone is using all Supes high end feats...)
Also, keep in mind that this is Spidey with FULL control of the Uni Force. Which means that he'll be WAY more powerful than he ever actually appeared in a comic book, because he never demonstrated that level of control/understanding in the comics. But that's the set up of the thread, he's WAY more powerful than he ever actually appeared. If you don't like the set up, then track down Ext@nt, and take it up with him.
On a final note, I'd like to point out that if Supes IS that much stronger than Spidey, he WON'T be going all out for this fight. Why you ask? Well as Mr. Master already explained, if Captain Universe dies, EVERYONE dies. And even though they're fighting to the best of their ability, they're also fighting in character. And there's NO WAY Supes would risk killing someone(and thus killing the entire universe), just to win a fight.
Doesn't stop Spidey from getting knocked out.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So after your body digests food it Superman can touch you and enjoy a whopper with fries?Nice try. 🙂
