Cosmic Spiderman vs Superman

Started by lando00533 pages

Originally posted by Juntai
Basically you still have nothing but hopes and dreams and not a shred of evidence, proof, or even an idea of how he could/would do it? That's what I'm saying, you have not brought one thing to the thread that would suggest to anyone that Spidey wins, yet you keep repeating that he does. You have a lot of convincing to do, now get started. Supes has this last 30 pages in spades, for examples of his strength, durability, and overcoming many of the powers CU brings to the table. Now, its your job to convince people otherwise, and babbling with no proof isn't going to cut it against the Man of Tomorrow.
not provinding and idea how? i did that like 6 pages back you continue to say i provide no proof why because there are no scans of cs with expert level control you continue to ignore that he barely had thoes powers yet you want a full expo of him in action quit asking for things you know are not there i've stated traping superman in a skin tight suit of vibrainium for and example of how he could win but that was ignored with the same i want scans excuse or how about superman wont be touchin cs as easily as you think with a cosmic level spider sense for another example countering heat visoin with cosmic blasts so on and so forth the only thing superman could do that cs cant counter is the tvo which is why superman would win one i gave him that and i would give him atleast 2 more victories 1 for outfighting him and 1 for just getting lucky other than that i dont see superman takeing any more than that

Originally posted by lando005
not provinding and idea how? i did that like 6 pages back you continue to say i provide no proof why because there are no scans of cs with expert level control you continue to ignore that he barely had thoes powers yet you want a full expo of him in action quit asking for things you know are not there i've stated traping superman in a skin tight suit of vibrainium for and example of how he could win but that was ignored with the same i want scans excuse or how about superman wont be touchin cs as easily as you think with a cosmic level spider sense for another example countering heat visoin with cosmic blasts so on and so forth the only thing superman could do that cs cant counter is the tvo which is why superman would win one i gave him that and i would give him atleast 2 more victories 1 for outfighting him and 1 for just getting lucky other than that i dont see superman takeing any more than that

Finally we're getting somewhere.

I don't see trapping him in vibranium working. He's not sitting still waiting for it to happen, he's in his face, punching his face in. He'll have very little time to concentrate, and just as little time of being conscious. When Superman is angry and amping as the thread makes him to be, he has the capabilities to knock out high tiers in single blows. Crack planets in half, freeze the ocean with his breath, cover a planet in heat vision. Can Spidey overcome this?

Originally posted by Juntai
I don't see trapping him in vibranium working. He's not sitting still waiting for it to happen, he's in his face, punching his face in. He'll have very little time to concentrate, and just as little time of being conscious. When Superman is angry as the thread makes him to be, he has the capabilities to knock out high tiers in single blows. Crack planets in half, freeze the ocean with his breath, cover a planet in heat vision. Can Spidey overcome this?

Yes

Originally posted by Soleran
Yes
How? Spidey sense?

Don't make me say the "T" word!!! 😠

Originally posted by Juntai
I don't see trapping him in vibranium working. He's not sitting still waiting for it to happen, he's in his face, punching his face in. He'll have very little time to concentrate, and just as little time of being conscious. When Superman is angry as the thread makes him to be, he has the capabilities to knock out high tiers in single blows. Crack planets in half, freeze the ocean with his breath, cover a planet in heat vision. Can Spidey overcome this?
you forgot createing life from nothingness while you were describing your god, no if cs would stand there and try to take all that punishment he would loose but he's not going to be standing still either so i do see him getting punched out any time soon as far as haveing little time to come up with ideas spiderman is almost always under such conditions the majority of the time makeing up plans as he goes along as do many heroes so i dont see time being too big of an issue either nomatter how u put it superman wont be owning a fully experiance cosmic spidy

Originally posted by Juntai
How? Spidey sense?
oh you mean that neat little built in warning device he has yea that may have something to do with it

Originally posted by batdude123
Don't make me say the "T" word!!! 😠
i already gave him 1 win for tvo

Originally posted by lando005
you forgot createing life from nothingness while you were describing your god, no if cs would stand there and try to take all that punishment he would loose but he's not going to be standing still either so i do see him getting punched out any time soon as far as haveing little time to come up with ideas spiderman is almost always under such conditions the majority of the time makeing up plans as he goes along as do many heroes so i dont see time being too big of an issue either nomatter how u put it superman wont be owning a fully experiance cosmic spidy
Everything I've named there, is something he can and has shown the capacity to do. Creating life isn't one, or I would have mentioned it.

no if cs would stand there and try to take all that punishment he would loose

Good, that's all you had to say. He has no counter for Supes speed and utterly devistating physical superiority.
Run along now.

Originally posted by lando005
oh you mean that neat little built in warning device he has yea that may have something to do with it
lol.

Originally posted by Juntai
Everything I've named there, is something he can and has shown the capacity to do. Creating life isn't one, or I would have mentioned it.

Good, that's all you had to say. He has no counter for Supes speed and utterly devistating physical superiority.
Run along now.

the way superman is powerd up allthe time he might as well have the ability to create life

oh and if ur gonna quote me the dont cut off my quotes and take only what u need i also said he wouldnt just stand there and take a hit from superman he would be fighting back while moving (yea he can do that)
soo try coming up wi a scinario where cs isnt doing something like just standing there beggin superman to hit him and i may think about what you have to say

Originally posted by lando005
the way superman is powerd up allthe time he might as well have the ability to create life

oh and if ur gonna quote me the dont cut off my quotes and take only what u need i also said he wouldnt just stand there and take a hit from superman he would be fighting back while moving (yea he can do that)
soo try coming up wi a scinario where cs isnt doing something like just standing there beggin superman to hit him and i may think about what you have to say

I don't think he has much of a choice, Superman moves at multiples of lightspeed. How fast is CU Spidey?
Meanwhile, Supes has proven he can shrug off most attacks CU can come with and keep coming.

Originally posted by Juntai
I don't think he has much of a choice, Superman moves at multiples of lightspeed. How fast is CU Spidey?
Meanwhile, Supes has proven he can shrug off most attacks CU can come with and keep coming.
we dont know how fast cs is and yes superman can shrug off an attack but that doesnt mean he's immuen to it just highly resistant a cosmic blast of enough power can hurt him

Originally posted by Soleran
LOL well I'm not sure if you notice this but they aren't acknowledging any weakness of Superman's at the moment, he's not just super he's superawesomefantastic.
No those dont' work... 😖hifty:

😖hifty:

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Spidey fans are relying on their "word"

Yes...far better than feats and logic. ❌

So it's logical that someone's weakness doesn't work against them? Superman fans are using the countless amounts of feats he has, which is proved by...

Originally posted by MattDay
superman ftw, his feats and special skills far out weigh this one time cosmic gayness... i meen spiderman

Originally posted by lando005
i provide a logical way of debating it that's fair and unbias for both sides
PIS only works with Superman... let me demonstrate...
I already did. 😐

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No those dont' work... 😖hifty:

😖hifty:

So it's logical that someone's weakness doesn't work against them? Superman fans are using the countless amounts of feats he has, which is proved by...

PIS only works with Superman... let me demonstrate...
I already did. 😐

1) Triumph with the power of a 5th dimension being is far beyond Cosmic Spidey either way, he had to be put down by Spectre. Plus he was able to hold Supes at bay while doing it, something Cosmic Spidey doesn't have the physical durability to accomplish.

2) That theory doesn't work on Superman anymore, he can simply intake more energy at an even higher rate to offset the loss of the solar energy stored in his cells.

3) Triumph was retconned. It never happened. Good as using elseworlds.

Originally posted by Juntai
1) Triumph with the power of a 5th dimension being is far beyond Cosmic Spidey either way, he had to be put down by Spectre. Plus he was able to hold Supes at bay while doing it, something Cosmic Spidey doesn't have the physical durability to accomplish.
Proven by?

Originally posted by Juntai
2) That theory doesn't work on Superman anymore, he can simply intake more energy at an even higher rate to offset the loss of the solar energy stored in his cells.

To a certain extent, like I said before, since he is "immune" to everything, how does SS beat him?

Originally posted by Juntai
3) Triumph was retconned. It never happened.
Has little to do with what Superman himself said. Not that it matters when it goes against the argument.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Proven by?
Are you actually going to try to build a case that Cosmic Spidey is more powerful than a 5th dimension amped character?|


To a certain extent, like I said before, since he is "immune" to everything, how does SS beat him?
Good question.

Has little to do with what Superman himself said. Not that it matters when it goes against the argument.
The instance was retconned, it's as good as using an elseworlds. Not continuity. But he certainly has displayed the abilities to ofset such as per current continuity, as mentioned. He'll just draw it in at a faster rate.

cs is not more powerful than a 5th dimention imp

and since when can superman control the rate of absorbsion in his body?

Originally posted by lando005
cs is not more powerful than a 5th dimention imp

and since when can superman control the rate of absorbsion in his body?

Typically it does as he stresses, or angers, or as he needs it. He has a measure of control, but not total.
But this particular thread states control over all of his abilities.

Originally posted by Juntai
Are you actually going to try to build a case that Cosmic Spidey is more powerful than a 5th dimension amped character?
My point is people keep trying to use the "50x" rule as a basis for their arguments, but negate the statistical outliers for their own characters all of the time, like weaknesses. It's a double standard.

Originally posted by Juntai
Good question.
Are you saying Surfer is incapable of beating Superman? If all the Superman supporters in the thread think this, then there's no more point in even posting here.

Originally posted by Juntai
The instance was retconned, it's as good as using an elseworlds. Not continuity. But he certainly has displayed the abilities to ofset such as per current continuity, as mentioned. He'll just draw it in at a faster rate.
It depends on the ability of the person doing the draining however.