Originally posted by pantysniffer
Yes it is in my opinion anyway. It\'s slower than here but most people are older one of the Supermods even tops me by ten years. Don\'t say a thing GS!!!!
shutup 😉
After all of these ignorant youngsters have saturated the forums in recent times its good to see once again one of our more elderly residents. 😄
Originally posted by leonidas
don\'t go! if you leave I\'LL be the oldest guy on here!! 😱
YOu know i\'m often around one way or another as does Raz. Now and again it\'s funny to come in and play Leo.
GS, Leo it\'s been fun but sleep beckons.
It\'s still the easiest site to troll except for all the others.
🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You are joking me arent you? Phoenix avatars have consumed alternate realities.
Show us the scans....
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
LT asked Phoenix not possess anyone because he feared she be a threat to the multiverse
Show us the scans.....
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix is the Big Bang which Eternity is made from.
Yes, as of current canon.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix manipulated the energy and matter of the entire universe and materialized it in the palm of her hand. At top showings a Phoenix avatar is far greater than Eternity.
If you actually READ the panel you keep showing, ALL IT SAYS is that she helped heal an injured orphan universe. It DOES NOT state that she manipulated the all the atoms in that universe, that she re created it, or ne thing of the sort.
On top of that GS, no where in that scan does it say that the orphan universe was the 616 either ❌
I also checked the other putfile scans for myself, and it seems as though Jean Grey is manipulating that hologram of the universe into a hologram of Scott.....so she turned the universe into another x man ?
Yeah okay GS.....
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Show us the scans....
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Show us the scans.....
LT said he doesn’t want Phoenix to possess any human hosts and Phoenix as stated decided to listen to him for the time being because he knew that LTs reasons were right and her power was a threat to the multiverse.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yes, as of current canon.
Exactly. One shred of sense amidst lunacy.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
If you actually READ the panel you keep showing, [b]ALL IT SAYS is that she helped heal an injured orphan universe. It DOES NOT state that she manipulated the all the atoms in that universe, that she re created it, or ne thing of the sort. [/B]
I have answered this query previously in this thread and quite sufficiently. Jean is told to treat the wounded universe in the White Hot Room. Jean travels there and over the scenes Jean then goes from having nothing in her hand, to having small globules of energy, to having what we’re told is the universe. Whilst that was going on we had commentary from the Phoenix Consciousness pertaining to Jeans control of that vast number of atoms. Earlier in previous story arcs we saw Jeans telekinesis become more and more advanced, until we’re told she possesses telekinetic godhood. Complete and total control of matter. The point demonstrated in the universe in the palm of the hand scene.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
On top of that GS, no where in that scan does it say that the orphan universe was the 616 either ❌
Ummm the HCT future she amputated was the future of 616. Please read the relevant comics. It really would help.
After Jeans death heres the original response to Emma:
Heres Logan recounting the events which lead to this apocalyptic future in 616
We’re told about how the universe is broken and we’re told of a point where this break occurred. (Obviously referring to Cyclops’ response)
Heres Jean eventually amputating that future from 616 resulting in the “badly wounded” universe:
To heal the wound Jean is directed to the WHR. She is told to heal this wound she must grow a better future to replace the one she just cut away. Jean travels to the crystal empty handed.
Whilst in the WHR Jean is told her task (the telekinetic control of all of those atoms at once) isn’t as easy as it sounds in training.
Formerly empty handed energy globules appear in her hand and by the next panel she has what we’re told is the badly wounded orphan universe. Despite the Consciousness’ words of caution Jean performed her task with no discernible strain and within the space of a few sentences. She materialized the patient within the hospital and that involved the telekinetic control of all of the universes matter as clearly depicted via the art and the speech.
Please bear in mind that Jean amputated HCT future from 616, thereby wounding it, at which point she was directed to the WHR to treat the patient, she went there at which point she materialized a wounded universe in her hand. It doesn’t get much clearer than that.
Jean is told that to grow a better future to replace the one she cut away, she must water the patient with her hearts blood. I.e To symbolically cut all her ties with reality by urging Cyclops to carry on without her. “Live Scott. Live”
Heres the resultant altered response to Emma
What is it she applies her power to which results in an alteration of the events of 616? The patient, the glowing disc in her hand she previously materialized within “the hospital” to treat by growing it a new future. A future she grew by altering Cyclops response. The universe she materialized for treatment was 616. Noone can doubt that.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I also checked the other putfile scans for myself, and it seems as though Jean Grey is manipulating that hologram of the universe into a hologram of Scott.....so she turned the universe into another x man ?Yeah okay GS.....
That’s precisely my point LU. Your whole argument is based merely on scans. That is why your understanding is so poor and why you keep trying to dispute what I say because you have a twisted understanding based not on a read comic book, but from a few scans on a forum. It is not a hologram, you have no evidence for that and all evidence on panel contradicts that:
The Consciousness’ warning about the control of that number of atoms. (are you really going to try and argue that the Phoenix needs to take caution when manipulating the atoms of a palm sized hologram?)
The fact that’s its actually stated to be a universe
The fact that an application of power to this glowing sphere resulted in changes to the 616 universe.
Your argument is poor. Read the comic. Don’t have the audacity to criticize and dispute my interpretation when yours is based on a handful of scans you’ve come across online.
All of those scans and all of these arguments have been posted previously. I did not need to prove anything to anyone in light of that. I especially did not need to cater for your lack of research and your unwillingness to read threads. Read whats going on as it happens or you miss out. If you cant be bothered to read debates, then dont have the audacity come in at the end with attitude demanding answers for your queries. 👇
Originally posted by darthgoober
Question GS. I looked at She Hulk #8(the one that you said rectoned the IG), but all I saw Warlock say was that the Power Primordial was the source of power behind the IG. Where is it stated that the Power Primordial stems from the big bang?(I'm not necessarily doubting you, just wondering.)
The Power Primordial is an energy source derived from the Big Bang, as established decades ago:
Which is why when Adam said on panel that the IG's power stems from the Power Primordial:
The Handbook writer just put the IG's power came from the Big Bang:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Power Primordial is an energy source derived from the Big Bang, as established decades ago:Which is why when Adam said on panel that the IG's power stems from the Power Primordial:
The Handbook writer just put the IG's power came from the Big Bang:
And of course the IG did not work in the other Universe of DC in the Cannon JLA/Avengers where Darkseid says it's matrix was constructed for one universe. 🙂