If it became the acceptable thing to' come out' as gay, would homosexuality die off?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
And what basis do you have for such a claim ? You are making a wide generalization.

I said "I believe" not "I know this for a damn fact".

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
And what do you care? All that should matter to YOU is YOUR marriage, not someone else's.

I care for other people. And I'm not telling people how to live their lives.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
So why argue about it ?

Because that's the point of this website; arguing.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I didn't call you an idiot. I called you a bigot, which has been pretty clear from your sweeping generalisations about homosexuality, and a fool, which has been pretty clear from the romanticism you have for the days when all women did was cook and clean.

"I say that Porn contributes to homosexuality, sexual deviancy, and other monstrosities like child abuse."
The thing about written parapraxia is that it can't really be covered up. At least after 15 minutes has passed.

Fact: You are lumping these things together. Having stated that to "stamp out" homosexuality one would have to execute all child molesters, you either believe that child molestation causes people to become gay, or that child molesters are intrinsically gay. Both of which are unfounded assertions.

You have no evidence for the multitude of happy marriages in the past. There are numerous reasons the divorce rate and marriage rate were lower and higher respectively in the past and by no means was it because people were oh so much happier.

Oh and if you want to bullshit about brain chemistry, try not to do it when someone who's studied neuroscience is here. Mmkay?

Excuse me, but...

1- Studies have suggested links between being molested and having various sexual problems later in life - including being gay.

2 - regarding marriage - I have the testimony of 2 sets of granparents, 3 sets of great grandparents, and many of their friends. You on the other hand have nothing but extrapolation of todays problems into yesteryear to suggest that there was a multitude of unhappy marriages.

You studied neuroscience di you? You must have missed a few classes, or maybe you just don't read the journals. The effects of porn addictions on brain chemistry and function are fairly well documented.

Quit BSing about your credentials. And don't call someone a bigot or especially a fool when you're too ignorant to check out the literature yourself.

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And quit trying to put words in my mouth. Makes you look even more stupid. I never romantized about having women do all the cooking and cleaning. Your own biases against anyone with another opinion are showing loud and clear.

Originally posted by docb77
Excuse me, but...

1- Studies have suggested links between being molested and having various sexual problems later in life - including being gay.

2 - regarding marriage - I have the testimony of 2 sets of granparents, 3 sets of great grandparents, and many of their friends. You on the other hand have nothing but extrapolation of todays problems into yesteryear to suggest that there was a multitude of unhappy marriages.

You studied neuroscience di you? You must have missed a few classes, or maybe you just don't read the journals. The effects of porn addictions on brain chemistry and function are fairly well documented.

Quit BSing about your credentials. And don't call someone a bigot or especially a fool when you're too ignorant to check out the literature yourself.

false facts tying homosexuality to sexual deviency...anectodal evidence to seal the victory. you win the thread. here is your prize: shit

Originally posted by docb77
1- Studies have suggested links between being molested and having various sexual problems later in life - including being gay.

That's true, but it doesn't apply to every gay person.

Originally posted by PVS
false facts tying homosexuality to sexual deviency...anectodal evidence to seal the victory. you win the thread. here is your prize: shit

No thanks, you deserve it, eat it yourself.

Anecdotal evidence is evidence. AS far as "false facts" goes, care to back it up?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That's true, but it doesn't apply to every gay person.

True, nor does it apply to every molestation victim, the studies suggest it's a factor, not the only cause.

Originally posted by docb77
Excuse me, but...

1- Studies have suggested links between being molested and having various sexual problems later in life - including being gay.

2 - regarding marriage - I have the testimony of 2 sets of granparents, 3 sets of great grandparents, and many of their friends. You on the other hand have nothing but extrapolation of todays problems into yesteryear to suggest that there was a multitude of unhappy marriages.

You studied neuroscience di you? You must have missed a few classes, or maybe you just don't read the journals. The effects of porn addictions on brain chemistry and function are fairly well documented.

Quit BSing about your credentials. And don't call someone a bigot or especially a fool when you're too ignorant to check out the literature yourself.

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And quit trying to put words in my mouth. Makes you look even more stupid. I never romantized about having women do all the cooking and cleaning. Your own biases against anyone with another opinion are showing loud and clear.

Your anecdotal evidence means nothing to me.

Give me a peer-reviewed article in a reputable journal about how molestation is causative to homosexuality.

Originally posted by docb77
Excuse me, but...

Yes 🙂 ?

Originally posted by docb77
1- Studies have suggested links between being molested and having various sexual problems later in life - including being gay.

Studies have ALSO shown that Homosexuality is due to a gene which predetermines sexual attractions before they even begin developing during puberty...

You will IGNORE those studies, but pay attention to the studies that support your own bias opinion on the matter....how typical 🙄

Originally posted by docb77
2 - regarding marriage - I have the testimony of 2 sets of granparents, 3 sets of great grandparents, and many of their friends. You on the other hand have nothing but extrapolation of todays problems into yesteryear to suggest that there was a multitude of unhappy marriages.

Marriage is only worth as much as the two individuals see it. It is only a human construct. Do you even know the history of marriage? It existed way before Christianity and Islam did....

It is not sacred, there is no proof of it. All we have are the marriages that exist, and the results that are spawned.

Marriage in no way validates a relationship, it only supplies social and economic support to the couple.

It does NOT "make them love each other more" .....or do anything for the relationship that the couple cannot do themselves. ❌

Originally posted by docb77
You studied neuroscience di you? You must have missed a few classes, or maybe you just don't read the journals. The effects of porn addictions on brain chemistry and function are fairly well documented.

SEX ADDICTIONS exist...porn addictions are not proven, although many people have claimed they are in fact addicted to porn.

So what? Are you saying porn is bad? I'd rather be addicted to porn then Crystal Meth...

I'd rather be addicted to PORN than ACTUAL SEX...its way less harmful...

Originally posted by docb77
Quit BSing about your credentials. And don't call someone a bigot or especially a fool when you're too ignorant to check out the literature yourself.

I KNOW you're not addressing me here....

Originally posted by docb77
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Originally posted by docb77
And quit trying to put words in my mouth. Makes you look even more stupid. I never romantized about having women do all the cooking and cleaning. Your own biases against anyone with another opinion are showing loud and clear.

I'll put something else in your mouth droolio LOL j/k

You seem to display biases of your own, especially in the case of homosexuality and/or bisexuality.

Please do not accuse him of being biased, and claim that you are not. It makes you sound like a hypocrit, which I know you do not aim to be. 🙂

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Studies have ALSO shown that Homosexuality is due to a gene which predetermines sexual attractions before they even begin developing during puberty...

I'll believe that. In my life I've seen 7 and 8 year old kids who are already obviously gay.

Yes. Because being gay is a physical trait.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I'll believe that. In my life I've seen 7 and 8 year old kids who are already obviously gay.

Yes ✅ You can tell thier queers from an early age...all young boys who act like girls are totally gay...only macho boys are straight...

Also, you can tell by one easy easy detail: Straight Boys don't cry....the boys who cry are all gay 🙄

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yes ✅ You can tell thier queers from an early age...all young boys who act like girls are totally gay...only macho boys are straight...

Also, you can tell by one easy easy detail: Straight Boys don't cry....the boys who cry are all gay 🙄

You can cut the sarcasm, ese.

I'm being real.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
You can cut the sarcasm, ese.

I'm being real.

Originally posted by Alliance
You might be, but you're also being stupid.

How?

You can tell if a kid's gay. Like if he displays overt gay tendencies and actions.

Not at all. Sexuality is not expressed in physical or emotional traits.

Yes.

People have been able to tell if their son was gay when he was prebubescent,

Originally posted by Alliance
Sexuality is not expressed in physical or emotional traits.

🤨

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yes.

People have been able to tell if their son was gay when he was prebubescent,

Perhaps. Its more likely that they guessed based on stupid streoetypes and then happend to be right.

Tis really stupid. Most gays arent flaming annoying.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Oh please, give me a peer-reviewed article in a reputable journal about the "decline of our moral decency" and divorce rate. Or how more religion will make anything better.

Your anecdotal evidence means nothing to me.

Give me a peer-reviewed article in a reputable journal about how molestation is causative to homosexuality.

Go find the sources yourself. I'm not your research intern. I assume you do know how to use pubmed or other journal search engines. Right Mr. Neuroscientist?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen

Studies have ALSO shown that Homosexuality is due to a gene which predetermines sexual attractions before they even begin developing during puberty...

You will IGNORE those studies, but pay attention to the studies that support your own bias opinion on the matter....how typical 🙄

If I remember right I think I was the one who brought up the gay fruitflies in the "Is homosexuality genetic" thread.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Marriage is only worth as much as the two individuals see it. It is only a human construct. Do you even know the history of marriage? It existed way before Christianity and Islam did....

It is not sacred, there is no proof of it. All we have are the marriages that exist, and the results that are spawned.

Marriage in no way validates a relationship, it only supplies social and economic support to the couple.

It does NOT "make them love each other more" .....or do anything for the relationship that the couple cannot do themselves. ❌

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
SEX ADDICTIONS exist...porn addictions are not proven, although many people have claimed they are in fact addicted to porn.

So what? Are you saying porn is bad? I'd rather be addicted to porn then Crystal Meth...

I'd rather be addicted to PORN than ACTUAL SEX...its way less harmful...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I'll put something else in your mouth droolio LOL j/k

It better be a gun. 🥷

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
You seem to display biases of your own, especially in the case of homosexuality and/or bisexuality.

Please do not accuse him of being biased, and claim that you are not. It makes you sound like a hypocrit, which I know you do not aim to be. 🙂

Originally posted by Alliance
Perhaps. Its more likely that they guessed based on stupid streoetypes and then happend to be right.

No, their son was just overtly obvious.