If it became the acceptable thing to' come out' as gay, would homosexuality die off?

Started by xmarksthespot9 pages

Originally posted by docb77
Go find the sources yourself. I'm not your research intern. I assume you do know how to use pubmed or other journal search engines. Right Mr. Neuroscientist?
So basically you have none? Except for anecdotal evidence is still evidence? That statement alone tells me you're not of a scientific mind. I'm currently looking through SCOPUS, Medline and PsycINFO. I've yet to find anything to substantiate your claim of sexual abuse as causation of homosexuality, or that people were oh so much happier in the past so divorces were less common.
Originally posted by docb77
Off topic, but Yes, It did exist before Christianity and Islam. From a religious point of view Adam and Eve were the first married couple. Marriage is a CONTRACT, it is supposed to increase commitment, not feeling.
If two people need a piece of paper to tell themselves they're committed to each other their marriage isn't going to last anyway.
Originally posted by docb77
If I had to choose between those things, Yes I'd take the porn addiction too. But, we don't have to choose. We don't have to be addicted to anything if we live right.
By live right of course you mean live in a manner that's congruous with your religious views.
Originally posted by docb77
I never claimed I wasn't. My biases are in broad daylight for all the world to see. The bias I referred to was the broad "I'm right so if you don't agree with me you're wrong" bias that caused him to accuse me of sexism when I'd said nothing of the sort.
I haven't even asserted any of my own opinions, for the most part all I've posted is that your opinions are unfounded, which they are.

Originally posted by docb77
If I had to choose between those things, Yes I'd take the porn addiction too. But, we don't have to choose. We don't have to be addicted to anything if we live right.

This caught my interest... Do you realize that religion can be an addiction just like any other addiction, and when not taken in moderation it can be more harmful than helpful?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
No, their son was just overtly obvious.

Sometimes guesses of one's sexuality are correct. Sometimes they are not. There is no surefire way to know...

Rarely, sometimes a person thinks they are Gay and realizes they are not....likewise, sometimes a person thinks he or she is straight, and later realizes they are not.

Originally posted by Robtard
This caught my interest... Do you realize that religion can be an addiction just like any other addiction, and when not taken in moderation it can be more harmful than helpful?

If porn can be an "addiction," religion can be.

Originally posted by docb77
Excuse me, but...

1- Studies have suggested links between being molested and having various sexual problems later in life - including being gay.

Actually no real link to "being gay" has been found. The "suggested" links only have shown a potential difficulty with intimacy, a predisposistion to powerless sexuality (such as prostitution) or the possibility of pedophilia.

There has never been an study that has provided anything thing like evidence (anecdotal evidence is not considered hard evidence) that molestation is linked to homosexuality. This is especially relevant as the majority of homosexuals come from heterosexual parents of singular averageness - no extremes that homosexuality could be linked to, no abuse mental, physical or sexual. No extreme exposure to pornography or other stimuli. Not divorce or anything else.

You studied neuroscience di you? You must have missed a few classes, or maybe you just don't read the journals. The effects of porn addictions on brain chemistry and function are fairly well documented.

Pornography itself is not addictive like drugs or alcohol can be. A porn addict is merely a step away from a sex addict - the pornography itself is not the cause of the addiction but rather the physical/mental stimulation the addict seeks out that they find in pornography. A person can not become a porn addict by watching pornography - the addiction starts in the mind of the person, and is usually present before the actual expression through pornographic viewing emerges.

This is just as with those who posess a self-mutiliation fetish - it is the desire rather then the knife that defines it. They find their release through the medium, the medium itself is not the cause of the fetish/addiction.

This thread should be connected to the other one.jm

Originally posted by docb77
[B]Studies have suggested links between being molested and having various sexual problems later in life - including being gay.

But those people may have become/already been gay in the first place-BEFORE the molestation took place.

What about the molester? If a male molestes a young boy, does the same study reveal whether the molester may have sexual problems in the future, or become homosexual? Why just the victim?

I'm still gay........

*thinks, why did I just have with a man and liked it*

You don't have to tell anyone you liked it, just as long as you tell them you're gay.

p.s. I think you're missing a few words in your last post, might want to edit it.

😕

*thinks, why did I just have SEX with a man and liked it a lot a whole great big bunch*

Is that a freudian thing....lol

I'm talking about the potential word between "Have" and "With"

Or I could be grossly misunderstanding.

EDIT: You got it! And with big, bold capital letters.

What is wrong with me to forget such an important word......😂

Just for clarification, also something about evolution. Homosexuality and a difference in your chromosomes it's 1 out of about 1000 has a different chromosome but it's more common because it can be influenced. but say 2 Homozygous ("true" breed) Gays, say the both are sperm doners and donate to a Homozygous Straight Person
S = Straight
s = Gay

S S
s |Ss| |Ss|

s |Ss| |Ss|

Most likely they would all be bi or if its a heterozygous (mixed) straight person it would be:

S s
s |Ss| |ss|

s |Ss| |ss|

50% would be gay and 50% bi

The "gene" would exist, but it's Impossible for the gay "gene" to die out, because a chromosome causes it so a chromosome would make the "gene" so it can't die off.

There was this new discovery on aids recently in canada and I thought it would be interesting to see what would happen if they found an aids cure? Would homosexuality be more exceptable? And the answer would be yes, people will act in the manner they want to regardless what is popular. If homosexuality was accepted then people would now be able to choose, but this would have to be taught at an early age.

This would change everything, and people would be more aware and more confused as to what to pick. Well thats what I believe, I could be wrong.

nmind im going to retract my comment..hehe

Re: Re: If it became the acceptable thing to' come out' as gay, would homosexuality die off?

Originally posted by botankus
That could very well be true, but I often wonder about a few years ('96-'98) where many of the chicks in my hometown were bisexual or gay, and then in '99 and '00 they were all straight again and even had kids and married.

Did you actually go door to door & do a consensus?

OR maybe the chicks in your hometown just didn't want to have sex with you?

I'm just saying it's a very strange observation/comment to make...

an old friend once said to me that men and women are neither st8 nor gay...that at any given point they can change and be whatever they are feeling at that moment.

We all know that mens body parts go with girls, thats a fact. But we cant deny history, its not a new thing; humans having been having sexual experiences for generations... whether we are tolerant well that has more to do with are history.. we go through times where its more acceptable.

watch Caligula (1979)...lol

Originally posted by docb77

1- Studies have suggested links between being molested and having various sexual problems later in life - including being gay.

Were these studies done in the 1900's?
Yes, studies HAVE shown that a person molested as a child & subsequently growing up in a dysfunctional environment may lead to that person molesting in later years...NOT TURN into a homosexual. They were conditioned as a child to accept abuse as natural, a means of power play & dominance through pain.
As homosexuality is among consenting people, where does the abuse factor in?

If a boy was molested/taken advantage by a woman (based on recent cases of female teachers/ guardians having sex with underage students)...does this mean the boy will grow up into the ULTIMATE HETEROSEXUAL???

Being gay ISN'T a sexual problem, it's a consensual way of life.
Gays don't prey on straight people like vampires trying to turn them. It's not sex but religion & narrow minded people that is the problem.

Seriously ask yourself, how is the gay couple living nextdoor a threat to my straight relationship?

Oh thanks God, this old thread really needed to be put to the top again!!!

Besides genetics, another factor for becoming gay is peer pressure.

I noticed that a lot of my straight friends who hang out with their gay friends, eventually become gay themselves.

And no, they were not gay prior to meeting their gay friends.
I grew up with them, and everything we did in the past were everything a guy does.
Y'know, the sex, the beer, the drugs, billiards, etc.