Maestro vs superman and doomsday

Originally posted by breeze85
You are so, so out of your league now.
Go read something about the icebergs: http://www.wordplay.com/tourism/icebergs/
One of my favourite picks: "How hard is iceberg ice?
The crushing strength of ice is around 1% that of steel or 10% that of concrete. Though this may not sound very hard, a ship collision with an iceberg would surely end in disaster. The enormous momentum involved and potentially huge contact area with the ice can generate hundreds of tonnes of force on the hull which would cause it to dent and crumple."
That's why the Titanic sank. If the icebergs were even partially consisted of denser-than-steel ice they would sink like stones. Even though they aren't STILL only 10% of them remains visible above the surface. And no, there is no ice even nearly as dense as steel anywhere. At depths below 60-70 meters the ice has already changed into fluid ice due to its own weight. Now show us where do we have these icebergs possessing the strength and density of steel? As said, average is 1/100 of steel's strength. Density a lot higher of course but certainly not matching that of steel.
Yep the smaller particles would indeed break on Maestro, not the big ones possessing enough mass and also density to some degree.
A man slamming concrete and tiles apart doesn't break his arm because...? I give you a hint: it's not because of his hand having a higher density.

You don't know what you are talking about. Trut me. Do a little research before speaking with big words and quotes from sci-fi movies.
If Maestro is more dense, and moving at the speed of light explodes Maestro's head, what the hell do you think happens to Superman's fist and arm. Have you figured out a way to explain that Superman now has control of kinetic energy, and he can ensure that all of the released energy goes into Maestro, instead of his own hand?
Do you know that glacial ice and ice bergs have the density and tensile strength of steel in many cases? We aren't talking about the ice your mommy takes out of the trays, and puts into your soup so you don't burn your mouth.
Yes, the rocks and bars will break on the maestro.
You are missing the point. The strikes at hyper speed, even if they hurt Maestro, will still also hurt the strikers. That is the point.

Thats very interesting, but you're not seriously saying that you think Maestro is more invulnerable than Superman? Because that's just crazy talk.

No, I'm not saying that. I don't know if he is or not. Although, so far, the only thing that seems to have harmed him, I think, is the point blank Gamma Bomb exposure. I think.
And, I know that DD and Supes have been harmed a lot in their histories.
Anyway, that would be up for another thread.
What I am saying is that, really, he wouldn't have to be more invulnerable.
I'm saying that Speedblitzing is not always a good idea, and a lot of times, it could do more damage to the "Speedblitzer". Which might be why it is not seen more than it has been seen.
And, in that case, it should not be used all the time in here, unless somebody comes up with a formula for when and how it would work.

Just like, Supes doesn't always fight by pumelling oponents with his face. It could possibly work, but in some cases, against some guys, it might hurt Supes just as bad.

Speed is not an answer to everything. It is not a cure-all. For those of you that think it is, here is an experiment:

Stand up right now, and run as fast as you can at the nearest door.
How did it go?

trying to explain physics about a two comic book characters that break physics in almost every comic their in... are u mad? superman wins on his own, then beats doomsday again (as u know they dont like eachother much)

Originally posted by Horrificus
Hey "Clownie". You are proving my point.
First, I never said that icebergs were as hard as the steel in the hull of a ship. I just meant that under certain conditions, they are as strong as steel. Some type of steel.
Second, as you said, an iceberg is not as dense as the hull of a ship. Ok. Here comes the ship (DD/Supes) moving fast (Speedblitzing) toward an ice berg (Maestro) that is less dense than the hull.
What happens to that hull?
Get it?

You said: "Do you know that glacial ice and ice bergs have the density and tensile strength of steel in many cases?"

Now, define these "certain conditions" when ice is as strong and dense as steel or even CLOSE to it?

Since when did Maestro possess a mass that is hundreds or thousands times greater than that of DD and Superman? That's exactly the case with ship/iceberg scenario. What an idiotic comparison. Tell me again how I'm proving your point.

I'm still waiting for an answer to that hand vs. concrete/tile thing.

superman and doomsday KILL maestro.

Originally posted by leonidas
superman and doomsday KILL maestro.

And easily at that.

Originally posted by Horrificus
No, I'm not saying that. I don't know if he is or not. Although, so far, the only thing that seems to have harmed him, I think, is the point blank Gamma Bomb exposure. I think.
And, I know that DD and Supes have been harmed a lot in their histories.
Anyway, that would be up for another thread.
What I am saying is that, really, he wouldn't have to be more invulnerable.
I'm saying that Speedblitzing is not always a good idea, and a lot of times, it could do more damage to the "Speedblitzer". Which might be why it is not seen more than it has been seen.
And, in that case, it should not be used all the time in here, unless somebody comes up with a formula for when and how it would work.

Just like, Supes doesn't always fight by pumelling oponents with his face. It could possibly work, but in some cases, against some guys, it might hurt Supes just as bad.

Speed is not an answer to everything. It is not a cure-all. For those of you that think it is, here is an experiment:

Stand up right now, and run as fast as you can at the nearest door.
How did it go?

😕 Well if we go by your logic i guess the flash is ****ed in every battle right?

I would'nt say all of them, only the the ones he lossed in.

Originally posted by Supreme being
😕 Well if we go by your logic i guess the flash is ****ed in every battle right?

Flash has a plot device in the Speed Force, so it doesn't really apply here.

Originally posted by Tron
Flash has a plot device in the Speed Force, so it doesn't really apply here.

And Superman has a bio-aura around him.

i say dooms day for the fact he can kill super man and if maestro kills him he come back stronger and kill him

Originally posted by trademark
i say dooms day for the fact he can kill super man and if maestro kills him he come back stronger and kill him

13 years ago when Superman was considerably weaker than he was now. 😕