Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Let's see. Ms Marvel can fly plus she's around class 50 wheras Spider Man is no more than class 10, ditto for Wolverine. This is almost a spite thread..Ms Marvel 10/10
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Spider-Man is Class 20+. He hasn't been a Class 10 since the 60s, man.
This match could actually be EXTREMELY CLOSE. I give it to the duo 6/10.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
🤨Spider-Man is Class 20+. He hasn't been a Class 10 since the 60s, man.
This match could actually be EXTREMELY CLOSE. I give it to the duo 6/10.
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Spidey's got a way to take down those with far superior strength anyway. Add in Wolverine and I think you've got a winner.
I'll give it to the duo 6-7/10.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Ok guys, how are they going to counter Ms Marvels ability to fly?
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Ahh...of course.
The old 'they can fly so therefore they're UNSTOPPABLE!!!!' argument.
Spidey's capable of tagging her with his webbing long enough to catch up for a punch or two. Wolverine's also fast enough/agile enough to reach her in such a situation.
Against a couple of grounded street-levelers, fliers very well can be unstoppable, especially a flier who can keep her distance in the air while firing blasts at her opponents.
If Spidey tries to web her, she can simply take out the webbing with a blast or take it and fly him into the air where he's more vulnerable. She can also blast Logan's arse from a safe distance until his healing factor taxes out.
Carol should take this just about every time.
Originally posted by Accel
Against a couple of grounded street-levelers, fliers very well can be unstoppable, especially a flier who can keep her distance in the air while firing blasts at her opponents.If Spidey tries to web her, she can simply take out the webbing with a blast or take it and fly him into the air where he's more vulnerable. She can also blast Logan's arse from a safe distance until his healing factor taxes out.
Carol should take this just about every time.
I agree Carol takes it, but I wouldnt say it was due to her flight.
And Spidey is by no means grounded.
Also, I don't think the blasts are powerful or fast enough to put either contestant down for the count, and they'd probably only hit Wolverine.
That being said...
Carol 7/10
Oh, and this should have been Spidey and Gambit vs. Ms. Marvel 😖hifty:
Er, has she just absorbed a big energy source? Because otherwise, I think Spidey has decent one-on-one odds against her. She's basically a class 40-ish flying brick with blasts. Looking at how he's fared against Namor and The Human Torch, I think Spidey'd get at least 50/50 against her. Unless the newest incarnation's much stronger than past versions, but I don't see any indication of that.
She'd beat Wolverine about 7/10 one-on-one due to her distance attacks. She'd have trouble keeping him down with his healing factor, but he'd have a very hard time tagging her.
Together, they take this handidly, unless she morphs into Binary mid-fight.
Originally posted by Accel
Against a couple of grounded street-levelers, fliers very well can be unstoppable, especially a flier who can keep her distance in the air while firing blasts at her opponents.
Perhaps in theory. In practice, Spidey's countered The Human Torch very well when he's attempted this tactic. Spidey's beaten Torch a few times and had a bunch of stalemates against him.
Originally posted by AccelIf Spidey tries to web her, she can simply take out the webbing with a blast
Which may or may not work, depending how strong the webbing is. Some depictions of the webbing, especially when he throws a lot on, would take her a long time to break.
Originally posted by Accelor take it and fly him into the air where he's more vulnerable.
To fly him into the air, she has to grab ahold of him and keep ahold of him. This is a guy who can easily escape Iron Man's grasp. Besides, he fights in the air all the time. Most of his fights with The Human Torch are aeriel battles.
Originally posted by AccelShe can also blast Logan's arse from a safe distance until his healing factor taxes out.
True enough. Though Spidey and Wolvie could just do a Fastball Special.
Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Perhaps in theory. In practice, Spidey's countered The Human Torch very well when he's attempted this tactic. Spidey's beaten Torch a few times and had a bunch of stalemates against him.
Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Which may or may not work, depending how strong the webbing is. Some depictions of the webbing, especially when he throws a lot on, would take her a long time to break.
Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
To fly him into the air, she has to grab ahold of him and keep ahold of him. This is a guy who can easily escape Iron Man's grasp. Besides, he fights in the air all the time. Most of his fights with The Human Torch are aeriel battles.
Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
True enough. Though Spidey and Wolvie could just do a Fastball Special.
Originally posted by Accel
Many people have gotten the drop on Torch. He rarely ever uses the “fly into the air and go nova” trick on another superhero in New York.
So, you're saying his flying skills are crap because he doesn't go nova? And yes, torch does do alot of aerial combat. Don't disscredit another hero because it doesn't help your argument.
Originally posted by Accel
It’s generally depicted being as strong as steel rope. A concussion blast should break it just fine.
My point was not that she would be taken out by webbing, but that it could help stall or slow her down, long enough for one of the duo to reach her.
spidy has more than his fair share of arial battles under his belt from chance to the vulture the list goes on and on flying isnt that big of a deal for him more than likely he'll try to bring her down to the ground so that wolverine could finish her or like stated before throw wolverine for the fast ball special
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
So, you're saying his flying skills are crap because he doesn't go nova? And yes, torch does do alot of aerial combat. Don't disscredit another hero because it doesn't help your argument.
It's kind of irrelevant any way, since Ms. Marvel is much more durable than Torch.
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
My point was not that she would be taken out by webbing, but that it could help stall or slow her down, long enough for one of the duo to reach her.
i can just about see how it can turn out sipdy manuvers her so that she's flying straight towards him he waits for the right moment and then bam the ol webbing to the eyes routine then while she's still going and blinded another webline to the face or chest and spidy swings her to an awaiting wolverine
Originally posted by jinzin
mrs. marvel couldn't even beat sabretooth alone... not to mention the fact that wolverine's already put her down, and spiderman gave her a real hard time in hand to hand already.
Not to mention it happened when Logan took out the likes of Vision, Justice, Firestar, and others.