Originally posted by Accel
Many people have gotten the drop on Torch. He rarely ever uses the “fly into the air and go nova” trick on another superhero in New York.It’s generally depicted being as strong as steel rope. A concussion blast should break it just fine.
I’m basically referring to taking the web line, flying him into the air, and swinging him down hard into the ground.
They could, but whoever gets thrown would just get blasted right back into the ground.
For its girth, it's proportionately stronger than steel rope actually. Definitely enough to slow down Ms. Marvel for a bit.
And Spidey glides now. So she can throw him towards the ground if she wants, and he'll glide to safety.
I think the duo can take this 6/10.
Originally posted by Accelshe was drunk? i don't remember that, and yeah of course they wouldn't show blood, but hell, marvel couldn't "show blood" for a long long time, they had to over it up with shadows etc etc...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't she drunk when Wolverine took her out? I don't recall seeing any blood from bone-claw cuts.Not to mention it happened when Logan took out the likes of Vision, Justice, Firestar, and others.
I mean assuming he didn't cut her, then what? he put her down with the force of his blow? 😬
Originally posted by Metalmanx
For its girth, it's proportionately stronger than steel rope actually. Definitely enough to slow down Ms. Marvel for a bit.And Spidey glides now. So she can throw him towards the ground if she wants, and he'll glide to safety.
I think the duo can take this 6/10.
Originally posted by jinzin
she was drunk? i don't remember that, and yeah of course they wouldn't show blood, but hell, marvel couldn't "show blood" for a long long time, they had to over it up with shadows etc etc...I mean assuming he didn't cut her, then what? he put her down with the force of his blow? 😬
Originally posted by Accel
I'm basically saying she can blast the webbign before it ever touches her. And if he glides after being thrown down, it just makes him an easier target for more blasting.
And he's saying that if Spidey uses his smarts and his resourcefullness, which he often does, he can web her before she blasts it, if he times it right, etc.
Giving both him and Wolvy at least two seconds to get to her. Which is all one of them is guarunteed to need.
Wow. I've convinced myself simply by saying it wouldn't be a curbstomp, that the duo could win.
Duo 6/10
Originally posted by jinzin
she was drunk? i don't remember that, and yeah of course they wouldn't show blood, but hell, marvel couldn't "show blood" for a long long time, they had to over it up with shadows etc etc...I mean assuming he didn't cut her, then what? he put her down with the force of his blow? 😬
You mean the same arc where he beat Torch and Galactus's machine?!? 🤨
Use your delusion 🤣
Carol kicks Wolverine's ass all day long 😉
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
And he's saying that if Spidey uses his smarts and his resourcefullness, which he often does, he can web her before she blasts it, if he times it right, etc.Giving both him and Wolvy at least two seconds to get to her. Which is all one of them is guarunteed to need.
Wow. I've convinced myself simply by saying it wouldn't be a curbstomp, that the duo could win.
Duo 6/10
She also has her own pre-cog sense similiar to Spider-Sense that could help her avoid such attacks (though I'm not sure if she ever gained that ability back after Rogue touched her or not).
Originally posted by Accel
The thing is, all Carol needs to do is fly into the air. Once she does, Wolverine is no longer a concern. This just leaves Spider-Man to try to web her and/or avoid her blasts. All scenarios of her losing basically require her to stay on the ground and try to H2H them.She also has her own pre-cog sense similiar to Spider-Sense that could help her avoid such attacks (though I'm not sure if she ever gained that ability back after Rogue touched her or not).
Fool 😠
Dont you know that Wolverine can jump 50 feet in the air 🤣
Originally posted by Accel
The thing is, all Carol needs to do is fly into the air. Once she does, Wolverine is no longer a concern. This just leaves Spider-Man to try to web her and/or avoid her blasts. All scenarios of her losing basically require her to stay on the ground and try to H2H them.She also has her own pre-cog sense similiar to Spider-Sense that could help her avoid such attacks (though I'm not sure if she ever gained that ability back after Rogue touched her or not).
Fair enough.
But look at the flip side- say she does fly high into the air. If it was low enough for her to tag a swinging spidey, Wolverine could eventually reach her- he can climb most single/ two story building walls pretty damn fast- Combine that with his agility, reaction time, speed and such, and he's not so useless- as soon as he gets within jumping distance, all he has to do is wait for the right moment.
Alternativley, what if she flys so high that he can't reach her, even by said methods- well, then she too doesn't have much hope of tagging either of them. After all, they both are extremley fast, agile, reactive etc. Spidey has a spidey sense, and Wolvy has a major healing factor.
One of them would realize they just have to wait for her to come down.