Darth Nihilus and Darth Revan vs. Mace Windu (ROTS) and Plo Koon (AOTC)

Originally posted by Kas'Im
He was also able to do this to Sion - http://youtube.com/watch?v=IobIhctxRXg - ownage. He was also able to cut off Traya's connection to the force, and this was seemingly before his rise in power -

Nihilus without his drain effect is a weakling. He get's his ass handed to him by Mace, while Plo holds off Revan, then Mace and Plo team up and proceed to show the 'severely overpowered by fanboys' Revan how to use a saber.

The Jedi win.

if this is pure lightsaber fight mace teams wins, force fight revan and nihilus wins.

and sparten, that video is not canon, true, but it shows the extent of nihilus powers

Originally posted by Kadesh
if this is pure lightsaber fight mace teams wins, force fight revan and nihilus wins.

and sparten, that video is not canon, true, but it shows the extent of nihilus powers

And we've seen the extent of Mace's powers(Force Crush, and Shatterpoint, which gives Mace an edge above both Revan and Nihilus.), and we know Plo Koon has one of the the best Force Lightning techniques next to Palpatine's use of Force Lightning and Luke's Emerald Lightning. And since Nihilus doesn't have his overpowered drain technique to help him and we don't know what Revan has, they both get owned by Mace and Plo in both lightsaber and Force.

Nihilus still has the force drain though, that non canon video just shows how he uses it,

And revan? he has Force storm lightning which would fry plo koon. Proven in P.o.d. Not to forget revan has a wide range of force powers.

Originally posted by Kadesh
bull shit, nihilus does have the force drain as proven in kotor2. visas already said he drained the whole planet, And did kreia not say "He came to learn the greatest of the sith teachings"? [Hint] the force drain and he tried it on the exile but didnt work due to the exile being a wound, Its very stupid of you to assume its not canon that he doesnt have the drain

And revan? he has Force storm lightning which would fry plo koon. Proven in P.o.d. Not to forget revan has a wide range of force powers.

And where does Revan have a Force Storm? Gameplay? Not canon, only the cutscenes are canon. Gameplay can have a wide variety of possiblities, but the cutscenes stay the same. And a wide variety is only in gameplay. For all you know, he couldve ditched using Force Powers and just tried to master a lightsaber.

Your point=Moot.

Originally posted by Spartan ll
That wasn't Force Drain, it was a different technique. We saw him attempt to Force Drain the Exile with a DIFFERENT force power than the one shown in that video. And it is very stupid of you to assume that the Force Power in that NON-CANON video is the same as his Force Drain, since Sion got up and left, and wouldve been dead if Nihilus used his force drain on him. Nice try, kiddo.

Originally posted by Spartan ll
And where does Revan have a Force Storm? Gameplay? Not canon, only the cutscenes are canon. Gameplay can have a wide variety of possiblities, but the cutscenes stay the same. And a wide variety is only in gameplay. For all you know, he couldve ditched using Force Powers and just tried to master a lightsaber.

Your point=Moot. [/B]

WRONG, darth bane: path of destruction featured revans past using a force storm lightning to kill the rakatan army and bane with the other sithlords used one to wipe shit on some planet,(heard ot from zephiel who read that book), Novels = canon(except Sotme)

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Originally posted by Kadesh
Firstly you are an idiot. yes it was a force drain, . The exile had a defence to the force drain, that is being a wound in the force, prove to me it is not a force drain, you are being ignorant.Nihilus drained an entire planet of jedis, nihilus attemped to drain the exile but was not succesful due to the exile being a wound, nice lying
Nihilus toyed with sion on that non canon video, obviously that drain he did is identical to the one he did to the exile, so tell me what power was it then? Do not know? then shut up

Again, your point: Moot. The only idiot here is you, since you won't accept the fact that you're wrong. That technique uses both Force Lightning and a greater degree of Force Drain, which ISN'T SEEN OR EVEN REFERENCED IN THE FINAL GAME! Now stop spewing bullshit already.

WRONG, darth bane: path of destruction featured revans past using a force storm lightning to kill the rakatan army and bane with the other sithlords used one to wipe shit on some planet,(heard ot from zephiel who read that book), Novels = canon(except Sotme)

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There is more to Nihilus than just his drain Spartan, did you not read my entire post?

Originally posted by Spartan ll
No, it wasn't, or it wouldve killed Sion, since the only thing keeping him together was his hatred and anger and the dark side.

Again, your point: Moot. The only idiot here is you, since you won't accept the fact that you're wrong. That technique uses both Force Lightning and a greater degree of Force Drain, which ISN'T SEEN OR EVEN REFERENCED IN THE FINAL GAME! Now stop spewing bullshit already.

Originally posted by Spartan ll
That wasn't Force Drain, it was a different technique. We saw him attempt to Force Drain the Exile with a DIFFERENT force power than the one shown in that video.

Originally posted by Spartan ll
I just finished reading POD, and it didn't say anything about that, it only referenced Revan knowing Thought Bombs and about how Sith who shared power with others are fools. If you don't believe me, buy the book yourself. [/B]

You should order it from Amazon, you can get it pretty cheap.

hmm good idea, when does the soft cover come out anyways? Btw u read the book did you? then did revan really do the force storm lightning on lehon?

Nope, only that he had discovered many ancient sith rituals (such as the thought bomb). The teachings within his holocron was said to surpass those of the entire archives at the academy on Korriban, and some of them were described as so terrible, so dangerous that Bane doubted he would ever use them. Bane was also said to increase in power incredibly after studying the holocron.

What Revan did do the Rakatans on Lehon was most likely an advance version of force lightning, or using TK to pull down lighting from the sky, I doubt he knew of the force storm, as in Palpatine's force storm.

im aware of that but the new debator mentioned revan used it to cock up a planet.Not sure where he got it from though.

well theres also vader who did demonstrate lightning by using TK as you mentioned revan had done, got the info from this game "Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi"

Kyp Durron does it in Jedi Academy: Leviathan.

yup saw that

Originally posted by Spartan ll
I just finished reading POD, and it didn't say anything about that, it only referenced Revan knowing Thought Bombs and about how Sith who shared power with others are fools. If you don't believe me, buy the book yourself.

Ok so Bane an inexperienced newly crowned Sith Lord all of a sudden knows how to do a Force Storm? No, its one of the many powers he learned from Revan, everything Bane does from beyond the point of his crash on Lehon comes from Revan, since A. He NEVER displays thoughts levels of force powers before and B. He himself creamed his pants with all the knowledge Revan gave him and was in awe of the powers Revan knew. Revan displays the JvS/PoD force storm in KOTOR1 when the One goes into description on how Revan owned their armies by himself, when he says "Lightning rained down from the sky to destroy us..." He makes no mention of thunder, rain, or clouds which would be the signs of Revan using TK to pull lightning down, so its the PoD Force Storm.

And are yous serious? There is no way in HELL Plo Koon could hold off let alone BEAT Revan in any form of combat.

Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
Ok so Bane an inexperienced newly crowned Sith Lord all of a sudden knows how to do a Force Storm? No, its one of the many powers he learned from Revan, everything Bane does from beyond the point of his crash on Lehon comes from Revan, since A. He NEVER displays thoughts levels of force powers before and B. He himself creamed his pants with all the knowledge Revan gave him and was in awe of the powers Revan knew. Revan displays the JvS/PoD force storm in KOTOR1 when the One goes into description on how Revan owned their armies by himself, when he says "Lightning rained down from the sky to destroy us..." He makes no mention of thunder, rain, or clouds which would be the signs of Revan using TK to pull lightning down, so its the PoD Force Storm.

And are yous serious? There is no way in HELL Plo Koon could hold off let alone BEAT Revan in any form of combat.

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Originally posted by General G
I agree with everything said...except I would actually put Nihilus above Revan, if only ever so slightly.

I'd put him significantly above Revan..

Originally posted by Spartan ll
Thats cut content, kiddo. It can't be used in an argument since it wasn't in the final game and is therefore non-canon.

Nihilus without his drain effect is a weakling. He get's his ass handed to him by Mace, while Plo holds off Revan, then Mace and Plo team up and proceed to show the 'severely overpowered by fanboys' Revan how to use a saber.

The Jedi win.

Listen, I love Mace Windu, to me, he's pretty much the most impressive Jedi ever. I know he could beat Count Dooku, even Exar Kun...

but Nihlus would rape him, hard.

His Vapaad, as powerful and skillful as it is, woulden't be enough to fill the power gap between him and the Sith Lord.

He would die.

And Darth Revan would kill Plo Koon in under ten seconds.

So, sadly, the Sith win.

Revan displays the JvS/PoD force storm in KOTOR1 when the One goes into description on how Revan owned their armies by himself, when he says "Lightning rained down from the sky to destroy us..." He makes no mention of thunder, rain, or clouds which would be the signs of Revan using TK to pull lightning down, so its the PoD Force Storm.

Right, so because he makes no mention of any thunder, it means that there definitely can't have been any. Nice logic.