Anime Villains vs. American comic Villains

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Anime Villains vs. American comic Villains

Counterpart to the other thread.

Who wins, battle of the bad guys.

Fight 1: Orochimaru (Naruto villain) vs. Clayface (Batman villain)

Fight 2: Sir Crocodile (One Piece villain) vs. Venom (Spider-man villain)

Fight 3: Dr. Gero (DBZ villain) vs. Dr. Doom (Fantastic Four villain) NOTE: for this battle both sides have 2 years to make plans and create weapons to defeat the other)

Fight 4. Aizen Sousuke (Bleach villian) vs. Apocalypse (X - Men villain)

Fight 5: Kagato (Tenchi Muyo! villain) vs. Loki (Thor villain)

Fight 6: Itachi (Naruto villain) vs. Exodus (X - Men villain)

Fight 7: Naraku (Inuyasha villain) vs. Mr. Sinister (X - Men villain)

Fight 8: Shabranigdo (Slayers villain) vs. Shuma - Gorath (Doctor Strange villain)

Fight 9: Shishio (Kenshin villain) vs. Ra's Al Ghul (Batman villain)

Fight 10: Envy (Fullmetal Alchemist villain) vs. Mystique (X - Men villain)

Fight 11: Fat Majin Buu (DBZ villain) vs. Darkseid (Superman villain

Fight 12: Vicious (Cowboy Bebop villain) vs. Deathstroke (Teen Titans/Batman villain)

Fight 13: Knives (Trigun villain) vs. Magneto (X - Men villain)

Fight 14: Younger Toguro (Yu Yu Hakusho villain) vs. Abomination (Hulk villain)

Fight 15: Tetsuo (Akira villain) vs. Manchester Black (Superman villain)

IMPORTANT: Think before you vote! I tried to pick the matches to be as close as possible and tried to match up similar characters. If you think one character would win easily, make sure you have a good reason for thinking so. If you don't know about a certain character, you can look them up on wikipedia to learn about their skills, equipment, and powers. Try to make an informed decision.

Aizen doesn't have enough showings top be useful.

Fight 1:Clayface (Batman villain)
Fight 2: Venom (Spider-man villain)
Fight 3: Dr. Doom (Fantastic Four villain)
Fight 4. Apocalypse (X - Men villain)
Fight 5: Kagato (Tenchi Muyo! villain) ((i like the loki in the anime better then comics one))
Fight 6:Tie
Fight 7: Naraku (Inuyasha villain)
Fight 8: Shabranigdo (Slayers villain)
Fight 9: Shishio (Kenshin villain)
Fight 10:Mystique (X - Men villain)
Fight 11: Darkseid (Superman villain
Fight 12: Deathstroke (Teen Titans/Batman villain)
Fight 13: Magneto (X - Men villain)
Fight 14: Abomination (Hulk villain)
Fight 15: Manchester Black (Superman villain

Originally posted by trademark
Fight 1:Clayface (Batman villain)
Fight 2: Venom (Spider-man villain)
Fight 3: Dr. Doom (Fantastic Four villain)
Fight 4. Apocalypse (X - Men villain)
Fight 5: Kagato (Tenchi Muyo! villain) ((i like the loki in the anime better then comics one))
Fight 6:Tie
Fight 7: Naraku (Inuyasha villain)
Fight 8: Shabranigdo (Slayers villain)
Fight 9: Shishio (Kenshin villain)
Fight 10:Mystique (X - Men villain)
Fight 11: Darkseid (Superman villain
Fight 12: Deathstroke (Teen Titans/Batman villain)
Fight 13: Magneto (X - Men villain)
Fight 14: Abomination (Hulk villain)
Fight 15: Manchester Black (Superman villain

Agree except for
Fight 6 and Fight 10
Exodus can beat Itachi 6/10 for the majority

Fight 10: Envy unless weapons are involved

... Was any thought whatsoever put into pairing these characters up?

Originally posted by trademark
Fight 1:Clayface (Batman villain)
Fight 2: Venom (Spider-man villain)
Fight 3: Dr. Doom (Fantastic Four villain)
Fight 4. Apocalypse (X - Men villain)
Fight 5: Kagato (Tenchi Muyo! villain) ((i like the loki in the anime better then comics one))
Fight 6:Tie
Fight 7: Naraku (Inuyasha villain)
Fight 8: Shabranigdo (Slayers villain)
Fight 9: Shishio (Kenshin villain)
Fight 10:Mystique (X - Men villain)
Fight 11: Darkseid (Superman villain
Fight 12: Deathstroke (Teen Titans/Batman villain)
Fight 13: Magneto (X - Men villain)
Fight 14: Abomination (Hulk villain)
Fight 15: Manchester Black (Superman villain

agree with everything except 14 and 4

Aizen would pwn Apocalypse

And Toguro would annihlate abomination

Comic Villains > Anime

Naraku beats the crap out of Sinister.

Originally posted by Tallis
agree with everything except 14 and 4

Aizen would pwn Apocalypse

And Toguro would annihlate abomination


Based on what?

Fight 1: Orochimaru becomes Clayface.

Fight 2: Venom

Fight 3: Dr. Doom

Fight 4. Aizen Sousuke (6/10)

Fight 5: Loki

Fight 7: Naraku

Fight 9: Shishio

Fight 10: Envy

Fight 11: Darkseid. Fat Buu would need battle tactics to win. I just don't see it.

Fight 12: Deathstroke

Fight 13: Magneto

Fight 14: Younger Toguro

Re: Anime Villains vs. American comic Villains

Fight 1: Orochimaru vs. Clayface - Orochimaru
Fight 2: Sir Crocodile vs. Venom-Venom
Fight 3: Dr. Gero vs. Dr. Doom - not sure i dont knw what kind of thing dr doom can mae, but i doubt he can make anything like geros androids
Fight 4. Aizen Sousuke vs. Apocalypse - apocalypse
Fight 5: Kagato vs. Loki - hmm not sure
Fight 6: Itachi vs. Exodus- still not sure
Fight 7: Naraku vs. Mr. Sinister - naraku
Fight 8: Shabranigdo vs. Shuma - Gorath - dunno
Fight 9: Shishio vs. Ra's Al Ghul - shishio
Fight 10: Envy vs. Mystique- dunno
Fight 11: Fat Majin Buu vs. Darkseid - Majin Buu
Fight 12: Vicious vs. Deathstroke - iunno...
Fight 13: Knives vs. Magneto - Magneto
Fight 14: Younger Toguro vs. Abomination-aboination
Fight 15: Tetsuo vs. Manchester Black- ??

Im not sure who they all are but both anime and comic villains are awsome, any other suggestions ?? Itachi vs Earthman, ermm. Arlong (one piece) vs The shark ( GL villian)

Re: Re: Anime Villains vs. American comic Villains

Originally posted by BradBalboa

Fight 3: Dr. Gero vs. Dr. Doom - not sure i dont knw what kind of thing dr doom can mae, but i doubt he can make anything like geros androids

That is the funniest thing I've read all day. Doom probably doesn't even need any prep time to beat Gero. He has created Doombots, a time machine, he has learned magic, rules over a country, is able to steal bodies via mindswap, he stole the powers of the Silver Surfer and The Beyonder before. Everyone knows who the Surfer is but the Beyonder during the time it happened was like the most omnipotent being. Doom stomps the hit out of him.

Re: Anime Villains vs. American comic Villains

Fight 1: Clayface (Batman villain)

Fight 2: Venom (Spider-man villain)

Fight 3: Dr. Gero (DBZ villain)

Fight 4. Apocalypse (X - Men villain)

Fight 6: Itachi (Naruto villain)

Fight 7: Naraku (Inuyasha villain)

Fight 8: Shuma - Gorath (Doctor Strange villain)

Fight 9: Shishio (Kenshin villain)

Fight 10: Envy (Fullmetal Alchemist villain)

Fight 11: 50/50 - It depends whether or not the Omega beam is used before the Henka beam, or the absorption of Darkseid.

Fight 12: Deathstroke (Teen Titans/Batman villain)

Fight 13: Magneto (X - Men villain)

Re: Re: Re: Anime Villains vs. American comic Villains

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
That is the funniest thing I've read all day. Doom probably doesn't even need any prep time to beat Gero. He has created Doombots, a time machine, he has learned magic, rules over a country, is able to steal bodies via mindswap, he stole the powers of the Silver Surfer and The Beyonder before. Everyone knows who the Surfer is but the Beyonder during the time it happened was like the most omnipotent being. Doom stomps the hit out of him.

Except that Doom is dependent on PIS in order to take on people on Thor's level, yes, even with prep-time.

Gero is potentially a planet buster, and the artificial humans (jinzoningen) make the Doom-bots seem like a joke.

Originally posted by Astner
Except that Doom is dependent on PIS in order to take on people on Thor's level, yes, even with prep-time.

Gero is potentially a planet buster, and the artificial humans (jinzoningen) make the Doom-bots seem like a joke.

Oh my god! Gero a planet buster?! You're funny, really you are. Doom has done so much and it wasn't PIS. What has Gero done that even states that he can bust planets and please don't give me that stupid "Well saiyan saga Vegeta could bust planets and Gero is stronger than him" logic. I'll admit the doombots have nothing on the androids but Dr. Doom stomps Gero and anything he can throw at them. Gero spent years planning Goku's defeat and lost horribly when he tried to execute his plans. When Doom plans, he never fails that hard if he fails in the first place.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Oh my god! Gero a planet buster?! You're funny, really you are. Doom has done so much and it wasn't PIS.

Actually most of it is PIS. When it's not he's getting his ass handed to him by the Fantastic Four. The idea that he has anything on the Silver Surfer without PIS or CIS is laughable.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What has Gero done that even states that he can bust planets and please don't give me that stupid "Well saiyan saga Vegeta could bust planets and Gero is stronger than him" logic.

Actually that's how it works, they use the same kind of energy, hence they're capable of the same amount of damage.

If you want you could make a Vegeta (Saiyajin saga) vs Gero topic, just in case if you really have any doubts.

But it wouldn't really matter because Gero took out a half city with his eye-lasers within seconds. Doom hasn't done anything remotely close.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix I'll admit the doombots have nothing on the androids but Dr. Doom stomps Gero and anything he can throw at them. Gero spent years planning Goku's defeat and lost horribly when he tried to execute his plans. When Doom plans, he never fails that hard if he fails in the first place.

How is Doom going to stand against a superhuman who moves so much faster than him, and is so much stronger than him, and capable of so much more destruction?

And, I don't see the need in bringing up "Well the Z-fighters defeated Gero." He would still break down Doom within seconds with his own hands.

Originally posted by Astner
Actually most of it is PIS. When it's not he's getting his ass handed to him by the Fantastic Four. The idea that he has anything on the Silver Surfer without PIS or CIS is laughable.

Actually that's how it works, they use the same kind of energy, hence they're capable of the same amount of damage.

If you want you could make a Vegeta (Saiyajin saga) vs Gero topic, just in case if you really have any doubts.

But it wouldn't really matter because Gero took out a half city with his eye-lasers within seconds. Doom hasn't done anything remotely close.

How is Doom going to stand against a superhuman who moves so much faster than him, and is so much stronger than him, and capable of so much more destruction?

And, I don't see the need in bringing up "Well the Z-fighters defeated Gero." He would still break down Doom within seconds with his own hands.

1. Did you even read those events? It's not like he just woke up one morning, walked up to Surfer challenged him to an all out battle and stole his powers. He had a plan and carried it out.

2. That isn't how it works for many reasons.

A. Vegeta could only bust a planet with the Galic Gun, he said that this move would destroy the planet. Now he has missed with his Final Flash and Big Bang attack before which is stronger than the Galic gun and the planet was fine. Hell he even hit Cell with a Final Flash and it only destroyed half of his body, if it was a planet buster then it would've destroyed his entire body.

B. He is an android and androids don't have Ki which is why they can't get stronger.

3. Doom has done more than just level a city and he has taken more than some eye lasers.

Gero is barely above human, the guy was surprised at Yamcha and his strength, and Piccolo cut his arms with his hand. What speed and strength feats does he have that puts him above Doom? Also Gero can not cause more destruction than Doom. What is stopping Doom from developing a device that shuts Gero down? Gero can't even absorb his energy seeing as he has to make skin contact and the only skin you can see is his eyes and mouth.

Gero loses.

This is for Astner who thinks Doom lacks the power and intellect to beat Gero.

Here he takes down a senteniel with a single blast. Yes the sentinel is more durable than a building.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomBlasts04Xmen56.jpg

Thanos who is above Gero even states that he must keep tabs on Doom

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomRespect02TheEnd1.jpg

Magus and Worlock who are more durable than Gero also got the business from Doom.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomBlasts02IW5.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomBlasts03IW5.jpg

Forcefield power which will easily shake off his eye lasers

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields01200.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields03IronMan149.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields02Avengers156.jpg

Doom survives a blast from the Infinity Gauntlet which is way above anything Cell could even do, which way above what any Z or even GT fighter could do.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields09IG5.jpg

Hypnotism

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomPowers04-HypnotismIronMan150.jpg

Do I need to post more or are you finally convinced that you were wrong?

Originally posted by Astner

But it wouldn't really matter because Gero took out a half city with his eye-lasers within seconds. Doom hasn't done anything remotely close.

You're right I'm sorry. Doom hasn't took out half of a city. He only did this to something else.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Inventions/DoomDevice41-WorldEnderSS107.jpg

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
1. Did you even read those events? It's not like he just woke up one morning, walked up to Surfer challenged him to an all out battle and stole his powers. He had a plan and carried it out.

Plot induced stupidity are the words you're looking for.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
2. That isn't how it works for many reasons.

A. Vegeta could only bust a planet with the Galic Gun, he said that this move would destroy the planet. Now he has missed with his Final Flash and Big Bang attack before which is stronger than the Galic gun and the planet was fine. Hell he even hit Cell with a Final Flash and it only destroyed half of his body, if it was a planet buster then it would've destroyed his entire body.

B. He is an android and androids don't have Ki which is why they can't get stronger.


Except that in Dragonball you can control the splash radius of your attacks. The names of attacks are just flashy gimmicks--Roshi's Kamehameha snuffed out the moon. Goku's which was far more powerful didn't even level the stadium in the following tournament.

And if you read the manga, you'd notice how the Final Flash actually ends up in outer space after it hit Cell--funny thing is, Cell even dropped his guard when he tanked it. And Cell is more durable than a planet, so is Freeza, he easily kicked Vegeta's planet busting blast into outer space as well.

Androids store chi/energy, that's why they could drains chi. And fire chi-blasts. They simply don't emit it.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
3. Doom has done more than just level a city and he has taken more than some eye lasers.

Gero is barely above human, the guy was surprised at Yamcha and his strength, and Piccolo cut his arms with his hand. What speed and strength feats does he have that puts him above Doom? Also Gero can not cause more destruction than Doom. What is stopping Doom from developing a device that shuts Gero down? Gero can't even absorb his energy seeing as he has to make skin contact and the only skin you can see is his eyes and mouth.

Gero loses.


Yamucha--lets see.

He was almost as powerful as Raditz in the end of the Saiyajin arc. Then he received the same training as Goku did. Then after that he trains for three years before the artificial human attack.

If Yamusha went from less than 200 pl, to close to 1,000 (a factor of 5x/year) in a single year. Then he receives the same training as Goku, and then further trains for 3 years, it wouldn't be surprising if he was at Vegeta's level (Saiyajin saga).

And if Gero was surprised and confused him for Goku, then it's only more reasonable to believe that he was.

And Gero was surprised, but that didn't keep him from taking out Yamusha in a single hit, easily piercing Yamusha's body with his hand.

And then we have Piccolo, who after being able to match 2nd form Freeza also gets to train for 3 years. . . . Even king Piccolo could level an entire island from the surface of the earth--that's right, the old king Piccolo. . . . You see where this is heading.

And you would have to be pretty damn ****** to think that Gero wasn't above human reflexes. Even 19 was able to keep up with Ssj Goku, he weaken over time--but still impressed the other Z-fighters, only Piccolo knew what was happening.

You might also recall Vegeta's bluff. Gero would have taken down Vegeta after the battle against 19 (he needed a senzu bean). That's what Piccolo said.

And I don't see why Gero would have to absorb Doom's power. He'll blast the battlefield from above. Doom gets knocked by less.