Anime Villains vs. American comic Villains

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
1. Did you even read those events? It's not like he just woke up one morning, walked up to Surfer challenged him to an all out battle and stole his powers. He had a plan and carried it out.

2. That isn't how it works for many reasons.

A. Vegeta could only bust a planet with the Galic Gun, he said that this move would destroy the planet. Now he has missed with his Final Flash and Big Bang attack before which is stronger than the Galic gun and the planet was fine. Hell he even hit Cell with a Final Flash and it only destroyed half of his body, if it was a planet buster then it would've destroyed his entire body.

B. He is an android and androids don't have Ki which is why they can't get stronger.

3. Doom has done more than just level a city and he has taken more than some eye lasers.

Gero is barely above human, the guy was surprised at Yamcha and his strength, and Piccolo cut his arms with his hand. What speed and strength feats does he have that puts him above Doom? Also Gero can not cause more destruction than Doom. What is stopping Doom from developing a device that shuts Gero down? Gero can't even absorb his energy seeing as he has to make skin contact and the only skin you can see is his eyes and mouth.

Gero loses.

2. A. For one thing, the Final Flash Vegeta used on Cell would have killed him, but he would of had to destroy the planet to do so, so he angled it so it wouldn't hit the planet. As far as Big Bang attack, DBZ characters can focus their power, not to mention Saiyan Sage Vegeta was never proven to destroy a planet anyway. So your logic fails.

B. No, Androids DO have Ki, in Gero's case he absorbs Ki, because unlike 16, 17, and 18, his Ki is finite.

4. Gero is barely above human? That is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. Gero is near SSJ level, and as for Yamcha, Yamcha himself is a bona fide superhuman, and Gero defeated him effortlessly. Piccolo has always been far above human level since DB.

I'm not saying Gero wins, I'm only asking you to keep the ignorant comments to yourself. 🙂

Originally posted by Astner
Plot induced stupidity are the words you're looking for.

Except that in Dragonball you can control the splash radius of your attacks. The names of attacks are just flashy gimmicks--Roshi's Kamehameha snuffed out the moon. Goku's which was far more powerful didn't even level the stadium in the following tournament.

And if you read the manga, you'd notice how the Final Flash actually ends up in outer space after it hit Cell--funny thing is, Cell even dropped his guard when he tanked it. And Cell is more durable than a planet, so is Freeza, he easily kicked Vegeta's planet busting blast into outer space as well.

Androids store chi/energy, that's why they could drains chi. And fire chi-blasts. They simply don't emit it.

Yamucha--lets see.

He was almost as powerful as Raditz in the end of the Saiyajin arc. Then he received the same training as Goku did. Then after that he trains for three years before the artificial human attack.

If Yamusha went from less than 200 pl, to close to 1,000 (a factor of 5x/year) in a single year. Then he receives the same training as Goku, and then further trains for 3 years, it wouldn't be surprising if he was at Vegeta's level (Saiyajin saga).

And if Gero was surprised and confused him for Goku, then it's only more reasonable to believe that he was.

And Gero was surprised, but that didn't keep him from taking out Yamusha in a single hit, easily piercing Yamusha's body with his hand.

And then we have Piccolo, who after being able to match 2nd form Freeza also gets to train for 3 years. . . . Even king Piccolo could level an entire island from the surface of the earth--that's right, the old king Piccolo. . . . You see where this is heading.

And you would have to be pretty damn ****** to think that Gero wasn't above human reflexes. Even 19 was able to keep up with Ssj Goku, he weaken over time--but still impressed the other Z-fighters, only Piccolo knew what was happening.

You might also recall Vegeta's bluff. Gero would have taken down Vegeta after the battle against 19 (he needed a senzu bean). That's what Piccolo said.

And I don't see why Gero would have to absorb Doom's power. He'll blast the battlefield from above. Doom gets knocked by less.

Not even going to address this until you read my above posts that destroy this entire argument about Doom taking on Gero.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Not even going to address this until you read my above posts that destroy this entire argument about Doom taking on Gero.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You're right I'm sorry. Doom hasn't took out half of a city. He only did this to something else.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Inventions/DoomDevice41-WorldEnderSS107.jpg

Now, Doom is actually human when it comes to speed, he was only given* cosmic power (some times interpreted as magic) and strength.

He wouldn't even be able to see Gero blitz him.

He was talking about the post with like ten scans above that one I believe.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
I'm sorry, but there are so many incorrect statements of stupidity in your post that I have to address them.

2. A. For one thing, the Final Flash Vegeta used on Cell would have killed him, but he would of had to destroy the planet to do so, so he angled it so it wouldn't hit the planet. As far as Big Bang attack, DBZ characters can focus their power, not to mention Saiyan Sage Vegeta was never proven to destroy a planet anyway. So your logic fails.

B. No, Androids DO have Ki, in Gero's case he absorbs Ki, because unlike 16, 17, and 18, his Ki is finite.

4. Gero is barely above human? That is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. Gero is near SSJ level, and as for Yamcha, Yamcha himself is a bona fide superhuman, and Gero defeated him effortlessly. Piccolo has always been far above human level since DB.

I'm not saying Gero wins, I'm only asking you to keep the ignorant comments to yourself. 🙂

I'll double check on that and admit if I'm wrong, but I do know I'm not wrong about Doom winning this.

Originally posted by Astner
Granted.

Just like Vegeta almost did, but without technology. And CIS, because Doom is still human and dependent on air.

Now, Doom is actually human when it comes to speed, he was only given* cosmic power (some times interpreted as magic) and strength.

He wouldn't even be able to see Gero blitz him.

Really Doom destroying a planet is CIS because he isn't supposed to be able to breath in space? Get out of here please. I have posted many scans that put him above Gero and he is way more durable than Gero so blitzing won't do a thing to him but anger him. They have two years prep as well so Doom will just shitstomp him.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
He was talking about the post with like ten scans above that one I believe.

Correct, my fine friend.

Spoiler:
I mean that in the gayest way possible

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That was one time, it was college and spring break. All of our mom's were homo during that time.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
This is for Astner who thinks Doom lacks the power and intellect to beat Gero.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Here he takes down a senteniel with a single blast. Yes the sentinel is more durable than a building.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomBlasts04Xmen56.jpg

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Thanos who is above Gero even states that he must keep tabs on Doom

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomRespect02TheEnd1.jpg

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Magus and Worlock who are more durable than Gero also got the business from Doom.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomBlasts02IW5.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomBlasts03IW5.jpg

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Forcefield power which will easily shake off his eye lasers

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields01200.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields03IronMan149.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields02Avengers156.jpg

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Doom survives a blast from the Infinity Gauntlet which is way above anything Cell could even do, which way above what any Z or even GT fighter could do.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomForcefields09IG5.jpg

Yeah, perhaps we should make a Warlock with the IG vs Doom thread just to clear things out.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix Hypnotism

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Stats/DoomPowers04-HypnotismIronMan150.jpg

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix Do I need to post more or are you finally convinced that you were wrong?

Originally posted by Astner
And this is for the troll who don't realize what panels are creditable or when it's just PIS.

Doom have also struggled with Sentinels in the past.
Not that it really matters, because in the end, the planet is more durable than a sentinel.

Yes, because Doom is actually intelligent enough to keep up with Thanos' intellect. And might get his hands on the heart, however in this fight there's no CIS. Meaning that Doom wouldn't be able to get the heart, or come up with a machine that could destroy a planet.

PIS, and that's all you'll find in respect threads.

Do you even read these scans, the deflected blast would've gone through 6 walls. That's not even a single building.

Are you implying that Doom surviving a blast from the Infinity Gauntlet has any credibility at all? 😆

Yeah, perhaps we should make a Warlock with the IG vs Doom thread just to clear things out.

Fail. . . .

I'm only convinced of that you have no idea what you're talking about, and for each time you try to clarify that you only enhance that.

So I guess according to you Doom is nothing but a character filled with PIS and CIS. Anything you see that he does isn't credible because he is a human. You are the one that fails.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
So I guess according to you Doom is nothing but a character filled with PIS and CIS. Anything you see that he does isn't credible because he is a human. You are the one that fails.

If we were to give characters credit for everything they did then Captain America would be a class 100 character (he lift a tomb/catacomb).

Hulk would be able to thunder-clap dimensions asunder.

You see how this really doesn't work out. It's just bad writing, in one issue they Spider-man might move in super-sonic speeds but in another he loses track of a car.

Kuze (from Ghost in the Shell Stand 2nd Gig) vs. Deathstroke

Hand to hand fight, no weapons.

Deathstroke stomps in the most fvcked up way.

I know Deathstroke has strength a normal person doesn't have but seriously, wouldn't someone like Kuze be sort of a challenge in hand to hand fights? His prosthetic body can't feel pain, it gives him a lot of strength, bullets don't seem to do **** to him.

Originally posted by Astner
No, he's superhuman alright, but he have many human attributes. More so than Gero anyway.

If we were to give characters credit for everything they did then Captain America would be a class 100 character (he lift a tomb/catacomb).

Hulk would be able to thunder-clap dimensions asunder.

You see how this really doesn't work out. It's just bad writing, in one issue they Spider-man might move in super-sonic speeds but in another he loses track of a car.

So everything I show you that puts him above Gero is PIS/CIS though? I showed him destroying a planet you call CIS because he shouldn't be able to breath in space. Wouldn't basic logic tell you that he alter his suit and make it allow him to breath? I mean just because there isn't a globe over his head doesn't mean that he is breathing on his own in space.

With prep time what is stopping Doom from shutting him down with a push of a button? What is stopping him from raining down a bolt from the sky to his brain? If he is more powerful than Doom then what is stopping him from switching bodies?

Originally posted by Nemesis X
I know Deathstroke has strength a normal person doesn't have but seriously, wouldn't someone like Kuze be sort of a challenge in hand to hand fights? His prosthetic body can't feel pain, it gives him a lot of strength, bullets don't seem to do **** to him.

Deathstroke has tagged the Flashes for God's sake.

Deathstroke tagged with the Flash?

Gotta think of a different comic villain now.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
1. Did you even read those events? It's not like he just woke up one morning, walked up to Surfer challenged him to an all out battle and stole his powers. He had a plan and carried it out.

2. That isn't how it works for many reasons.

A. Vegeta could only bust a planet with the Galic Gun, he said that this move would destroy the planet. Now he has missed with his Final Flash and Big Bang attack before which is stronger than the Galic gun and the planet was fine. Hell he even hit Cell with a Final Flash and it only destroyed half of his body, if it was a planet buster then it would've destroyed his entire body.

B. He is an android and androids don't have Ki which is why they can't get stronger.

3. Doom has done more than just level a city and he has taken more than some eye lasers.

Gero is barely above human, the guy was surprised at Yamcha and his strength, and Piccolo cut his arms with his hand. What speed and strength feats does he have that puts him above Doom? Also Gero can not cause more destruction than Doom. What is stopping Doom from developing a device that shuts Gero down? Gero can't even absorb his energy seeing as he has to make skin contact and the only skin you can see is his eyes and mouth.

Gero loses.

firstly, Vegetas final flash WAS Planet Buster everyone knows that, he just focused it completely on Cell, they cna do that you know focus their attack on a singal point so that it causes minimal destruction. Androids still use energy attacks their energy just never runs out!! Gero...

...could easily destroy planets if he wanted to, yehh piccolo cut his hand off, Piccolo was conisered the 3rd strongest fighter in the universe at that point !! In a fist fight Gero vs Doom, Gero wins hands down !!! hmm as for the darksied and bu thing i doubt darksied omega beams could kill buu especially in only one hit but buu could easilt turn him into chocolate, or if he gets angry turn into super buu. which wud b very bad for darksied...

When Buu can collapse the multiverse and enslave humanity by his mere presense he can be declared winner over Darksied.