God made us short for his demands

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God made us short for his demands

We're not that accurate in nature and it's not enough with a given conscience. If you commit the smallest crime and end up in jail he will not do anything about it. He also doesn't seem to care much on how many existing people get lost. We should not tent him by forcing him do our will, like "I'm gonna do this, please protect me." I know he exists and I like all good things but there is one thing I'll like to state...he sounds as confusing as Satan does. I find everything too difficult and too tough for our class. This is my opinion not judgement.

Capt_Fantastic Restricted

Re: God made us short for his demands

Originally posted by redcaped
We're not that accurate in nature and it's not enough with a given conscience. If you commit the smallest crime and end up in jail he will not do anything about it. He also doesn't seem to care much on how many existing people get lost. We should not tent him by forcing him do our will, like "I'm gonna do this, please protect me." I know he exists and I like all good things but there is one thing I'll like to state...he sounds as confusing as Satan does. I find everything too difficult and too tough for our class. This is my opinion not judgement.

what the **** are you talking about?

redcaped Restricted

My mistake. The proper word is tempt.

Capt_Fantastic Restricted
Originally posted by redcaped
My mistake. The proper word is tempt.

I'm still not following you. For which word is "tempt" the correct usage?

Storm Black belt BJJ
Originally posted by redcaped
We should not tent him by forcing him do our will, like "I'm gonna do this, please protect me."
redcaped Restricted

Thank you, very kind. To me it sounds understandable but not all minds are the same. That's why we're here.

sonnet Angeloflight

Re: God made us short for his demands

Originally posted by redcaped
We're not that accurate in nature and it's not enough with a given conscience. If you commit the smallest crime and end up in jail he will not do anything about it. He also doesn't seem to care much on how many existing people get lost. We should not tent him by forcing him do our will, like "I'm gonna do this, please protect me." I know he exists and I like all good things but there is one thing I'll like to state...he sounds as confusing as Satan does. I find everything too difficult and too tough for our class. This is my opinion not judgement.

You should read the Bible to understand what God wants from you. It says in the Bible that God's thought are not our thoughts and God's ways not our ways. It also says that we cannot comprehend God and the spiritual nature of God with our minds but only with our spirit ( renewed spirit ) when we open our hearts to Him and accept Jesus as our saviour. Then you will start to understand and know what God wants for us.

Capt_Fantastic Restricted

So where is the point? It still doesn't make any sense.God isn't "tempted". He has all teh answers and all teh clues at the same time. What is up with all this limiting of god? He's a pretty self-sufficient character all on his own.

sonnet Angeloflight

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
So where is the point? It still doesn't make any sense.God isn't "tempted". He has all teh answers and all teh clues at the same time. What is up with all this limiting of god? He's a pretty self-sufficient character all on his own.

The Bible says we should not temp God.

Capt_Fantastic Restricted
Originally posted by sonnet
The Bible says we should not temp God.

Once again, the logic passes you by. That's like me saying I agree with David Duke or Pat Buchannan and quoting their book like it's not a biased reference. And beyond that, how can "god" be tempted? What more does he need? He's already the supreme being in the universe! How right does one entity need to be? How much more in your face does somthing need to be than the almighty already is? If god can be tempted, then he's lacking. which mean's he's not the almighty. Just another person like the rest of us, lusting after something he doesn't have. Which would deny him the position of an unquestionable and all-knowing entity. If god is lacking, and by default desireing, then he has the same issues you and i do. Which explains why he's (the god to which you reffer) nothing more than a construct of your lacking, human mind.

The longer you treat god as a being of equal understanding and temptation, the less credibility you create for yourself and the cause you argue. Can't you grasp that? The more human you want to make god, teh less divine he becomes. That's far too basic for me to comprehend why you can't!

Lord Urizen Perfection
Originally posted by sonnet
The Bible says we should not temp God.

IS that even possible ? Is God that immature that we can easily bind him to our human manipulation ?

FeceMan Restricted

I'm pretty sure the verse to which he is referring says, "You shall not put the Lord your God to the test."

Not tempt.

Lord Urizen Perfection
Originally posted by FeceMan
"You shall not put the Lord your God to the test."

CUZ THEN HES GONNA GET YA !

fear

redcaped Restricted

The word is "tempt" from us to him, not him as a victim. He's just warning us not to waste our breath because he's deaf to these petitions.

Regret One Among Many

Originally posted by FeceMan
I'm pretty sure the verse to which he is referring says, "You shall not put the Lord your God to the test."

Not tempt.


The word "test" is not found in the Bible. Perhaps test is another translation of the originating word, I don't feel like studying the Greek and Hebrew to verify this. The term "test" implies the ability to judge the subject being tested, from a Biblical stance such a concept doesn't work. Tempt is presenting something to see if the subject responds and "takes" what has been offered, the term "tempt" is the more accurate term of the two.

Matt. 4: 7
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Luke 4: 12
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Deut. 6: 16
16 ¶ Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.

Ps. 106: 14
14 But lusted exceedingly in the wilderness, and tempted God in the desert.

But then there is this verse:

James 1: 13
13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

And then we must address these verses, as they seem to be somehow in conflict with the above verses:

Gen. 22: 1
1 And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.

Mal. 3: 15
15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.

1 Cor. 10: 13
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

lord xyz Restricted

Originally posted by redcaped
I know he exists
I think your IQ has just dropped.

ThePittman "Pitt Happens"

Mine did from trying to understand the post 😛

redcaped Restricted

Originally posted by lord xyz
I think your IQ has just dropped.
No, you dropped it. Your opinion won't change things.

sonnet Angeloflight

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Once again, the logic passes you by. That's like me saying I agree with David Duke or Pat Buchannan and quoting their book like it's not a biased reference. And beyond that, how can "god" be tempted? What more does he need? He's already the supreme being in the universe! How right does one entity need to be? How much more in your face does somthing need to be than the almighty already is? If god can be tempted, then he's lacking. which mean's he's not the almighty. Just another person like the rest of us, lusting after something he doesn't have. Which would deny him the position of an unquestionable and all-knowing entity. If god is lacking, and by default desireing, then he has the same issues you and i do. Which explains why he's (the god to which you reffer) nothing more than a construct of your lacking, human mind.

The longer you treat god as a being of equal understanding and temptation, the less credibility you create for yourself and the cause you argue. Can't you grasp that? The more human you want to make god, teh less divine he becomes. That's far too basic for me to comprehend why you can't!


Can't you grasp that you do not have a clue what you are talking about? You know nothing about God as He is clearly not a part of your life and you clearly do not have His spirit in you. You clearly do not understand the meaning of the usage of "tempted" in the scripture and therefor you are offering such a ridiculous argument.

FeceMan Restricted

You know, I think people are getting just a tad caught up with the word 'tempt.'

Let's talk Hebrew, eh?

Nacah: a primitive root; to test; by implication, to attempt:--adventure, assay, prove, tempt, try.

Now stop blathering on about zomg teh Godzorz being tempted.