God made us short for his demands

Originally posted by sonnet
Can't you grasp that you do not have a clue what you are talking about? You know nothing about God as He is clearly not a part of your life and you clearly do not have His spirit in you. You clearly do not understand the meaning of the usage of "tempted" in the scripture and therefor you are offering such a ridiculous argument.

Oh, wow, so if you don't believe in something you can't talk about it or understand it? Where do you get off talking about athiesm, then?

Anyway, it seems a valid argument to me. Temptation is only temptation if there's a chance the person being tempted will give in to it.

If God is infinite (wholly complete) then he has nothing he desires. You can't tempt someone who's totally content and complete. If you could, they wouldn't be complete. So by saying it's possible to tempt God, you imply there are things he doesn't have and wants - and so isn't perfect.

God made us short for his demands

I'm short...........and yeah there is demanded a lot from me now...............

Make it stop!

Originally posted by sonnet
Can't you grasp that you do not have a clue what you are talking about? You know nothing about God as He is clearly not a part of your life and you clearly do not have His spirit in you. You clearly do not understand the meaning of the usage of "tempted" in the scripture and therefor you are offering such a ridiculous argument.

I don't have a clue? Okay well fill us all in on how the word "tempt" has multiple meanings. What does it mean in this case? So, after 13 years of catholic school, fill me in on how I missed teh meaning of the word "tempt".

And Fece, I understand your point too. But these people are so filled by god's spirit, there's no chance they could ever misinterpret the bible. It's god's word. God speaks to them on a daily basis. That's not the chilli cheese gut buster that they feel rumbling in their stomach, it's god whispering to them.

I'm not ashamed to admit I'm short woman. You all like to humiliate men and put to the test. In a trade I have many good things others would never have.

Originally posted by Trickster
Oh, wow, so if you don't believe in something you can't talk about it or understand it? Where do you get off talking about athiesm, then?

Anyway, it seems a valid argument to me. Temptation is only temptation if there's a chance the person being tempted will give in to it.

If God is infinite (wholly complete) then he has nothing he desires. You can't tempt someone who's totally content and complete. If you could, they wouldn't be complete. So by saying it's possible to tempt God, you imply there are things he doesn't have and wants - and so isn't perfect.

Originally posted by sonnet
There you go again. Temptation is a word given to the action when a person is for example TRYING to get someone to do something he might not want to do or do something under false pretenses just as Satan TRIED to tempt Jesus. There was never a chance that Jesus would give in because He is God, but Satan tried anyway hoping he could win. Satan was arogant enough to try though. So I guess Jesus proofed to be content and complete and that means God is also content and complete. The Bible does not say that it is possible but it says not to tempt/ test God for we will not be able to stand up to Him. The focus is on the arogance of mankind who thinks it is possible to tempt, test or mislead God.
And then you also assume that to desire can only be a negative act. You just don't know God's Word.

If god would never exhibit human characteristics, they why do you try so hard to ascribe them to him? As far as I can tell "god" created statn just like he created sin and vice. If you want to blme someone for the injustce and stupidity in the world, then you have to blame god. Because he created good as well as evil. And what's more, you have to blame him for the temptaion of humanity just as much as you do the devil.

Satan tried, thinking he could win? Are you a ****ing log?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
If god would never exhibit human characteristics, they why do you try so hard to ascribe them to him? As far as I can tell "god" created statn just like he created sin and vice. If you want to blme someone for the injustce and stupidity in the world, then you have to blame god. Because he created good as well as evil. And what's more, you have to blame him for the temptaion of humanity just as much as you do the devil.

Satan tried, thinking he could win? Are you a ****ing log?

And this comes back to you writing about your MISCONCEPTION of what is written in God's word. If you do not know, don't write about it.

Originally posted by sonnet
And this comes back to you writing about your MISCONCEPTION of what is written in God's word. If you do not know, don't write about it.

i can and would say MUCH the same about you. If you don't know, then keep your face shut. But you think you know, so you speak. Out of turn and ill-informed I might add.

Originally posted by sonnet
There you go again. Temptation is a word given to the action when a person is for example TRYING to get someone to do something he might not want to do or do something under false pretenses just as Satan TRIED to tempt Jesus. There was never a chance that Jesus would give in because He is God, but Satan tried anyway hoping he could win. Satan was arogant enough to try though. So I guess Jesus proofed to be content and complete and that means God is also content and complete. The Bible does not say that it is possible but it says not to tempt/ test God for we will not be able to stand up to Him. The focus is on the arogance of mankind who thinks it is possible to tempt, test or mislead God.
And then you also assume that to desire can only be a negative act. You just don't know God's Word.

All Mythology....

Why are we discussing fairy tales ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
All Mythology....

Why are we discussing fairy tales ?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
i can and would say MUCH the same about you. If you don't know, then keep your face shut. But you think you know, so you speak. Out of turn and ill-informed I might add.

Originally posted by sonnet
And this comes back to you writing about your MISCONCEPTION of what is written in God's word. If you do not know, don't write about it.

Originally posted by sonnet
Why,... are you interested?

I find it interesting when people devout so much power into something they cannot touch.....

It's fascinating and admirable.

However, when it turns to zealotry, it becomes dangerous.

Christians like to pretend that they have the formula for an infinite life like God, but an infinite life has its own disadvantages. To be conscious thoughout an infinite life would require an infinite brain, any thought of which would be infinitesimal. The whole idea of the almighty God believed by the Christians is couched in problems, but they simply shrug them off. That God chose one moment in an infinite time to incarnate on earth is flattering to humanity, in that God must be incredibly concerned for these witless creatures that can do little to help themselves, but it all is simply human conceit. It is the vanity that the incrnated God warned about when He repeatedly said that His followers must be humble. No Christian is. To imagine that an infinite God bothers about an infinitesimal speck is vanity. That discounts them from salvation. The Christian message is plain, though all Christians cannot bare to face it. It is that self-abnegation and service to others is all that gets the blessing of God. It is a narrow gate not a broad one!

Could a being supposed to be perfect and almighty knowingly make a creature that required saving from some imperfection that He could have made perfect? Christians must satisfy themselves of such matters, admittedly not a difficult task, but also those they would persuade, that God is not an idiot. Though almighty and perfect, He deliberately made some imperfection that required Him to incarnate Himself as one of His own creatures to suffer death to save them from the imperfection He had anticipated. Was this plan for the benefit of the hapless creature or the God? After all, 2000 years and about ten billion dead creatures later there still seems no sign that this salvation is working. The world is worse than ever it was, and among the worse criminals are Christians. The idea that God is such a moron that He has to atone for something He already knew about says something about those who believe it. If there is an almighty God, He is by definition almighty, and not an imbecile, so the imbeciles must be the Christians themselves.

Christians like to pretend that they have the formula for an infinite life

Yep, and Sonnets back...........She's been cruel to us.....bash

Sonnet aint a problem my love gun is though
No place for hidin' baby
No place to run
You pull the trigger of my
Love gun, (love gun), love gun
Love gun, (love gun), love gun - KISS

Oh my god........

thats usually the respons we get 👿

Are you talking orgasmism???