October Surprise?

Originally posted by Alliance
Um...its strictly illegal. These are the same states the fly the confederate flag. Get the point?

It was added by psychos with ideologies similar to yourself who thought that adding "under god" would fight "godless" communism. THe phrase "under god" is a bastardization of a historical document that does not reflect the position of this government.

If it had been there forever, no one would care (like "in god we trust" on greenbacks)

Hello? Do you sense a tinge a hysteria in your opinion? There was nothing illegal about gay marrage until your types starte passing laws to make it illegal. Just like you did in the turn of the century and in the 60s to ban interracial marriages? DO you ever think that if you were placed 40 years ago you'd be racist for the same reasons you hate homosexuals?

No, the Christian right got one crazy in office and then decide they can force their views on everyone else. This is beyond religion this is zealotry like Islamicists in manny middle easter countries.

Christian harassmant my ass. I don't come knocking on your door or spit hate in your face. If 75% of the US says its Christian, how is that a minority?

The Christian Right is a minority, and rightfully so. Wanting them to gain influence would be like wanting the Nazi party to be a majority.

*sigh*

Again, more proof in the pudding Christians are regarded as Confederates, psyhcos, full of hysteria, and Nazi's.

Again, no mention of the girl who was denied her graduation speech simply by mentioning that she was Christian, and not allowing her to thank her God.

Also, no mention of the fact that no other religion, ethnic group, or minority would be subjected to such prejudice, since it would be considered a hate crime.

You can say what you will, but when Katie Couric feels that she has to apologize to "the poor people" for hearing the beliefs of a Christian father of a Columbine victim......

My people aren't the ones acting like Nazi's.

Originally posted by sithsaber408

*sigh*

Again, more proof in the pudding Christians are regarded as Confederates, psyhcos, full of hysteria, and Nazi's.

Again, no mention of the girl who was denied her graduation speech simply by mentioning that she was Christian, and not allowing her to thank her God.

Also, no mention of the fact that no other religion, ethnic group, or minority would be subjected to such prejudice, since it would be considered a hate crime.

You can say what you will, but when Katie Couric feels that she has to apologize to "the poor people" for hearing the beliefs of a Christian father of a Columbine victim......

My people aren't the ones acting like Nazi's.

Not all.

That's retarded, but not a big issue.

I don't really see very much prejudice.

What Katie Couric feels doesn't have anything to do with this.

Eh.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Now tell me honestly Cap, do you think that the school would have DARED to silence the valdedictorian senior if she was thanking Allah, Buddha, or her gay parents?

Hell no. You know they wouldn't, they'd get fired, sued, and lambasted all over the T.V.

But thanking Christ, and its "quick, cut her mic!"

Well, I've not read the story to which you refer. Besides, I went to catholic school my whole life and there was Jesus everywhere.

But, consider this: If christianity is so persecuted, why? Is it because most Americans secretly want to be muslims or buddhists? Because most Americans want to be terrorists? No. Most Americans consider themselves one form of christian or another.

I think maybe it's the natural backlash of having christianity force-fed down out throats. Look at what goes on in the religion forum. JIA and Marchello cram their crap in our faces constantly and they get torn on a regular basis. People get tired of being preached at all the time. And if you feel like a lot of people attack you, maybe you should consider how many people you've attacked.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
So funny Bardock, I enjoyed that.

Really though, you think it's fine for NBC to cut out showing Danish cartoons that make fun of Muslim's, which was causing controversy, (a legitamite news story) for fear of offending them, yet it's fine for Madonna to mock Christianity by being put on a crucifix writhing around with a crown of thorns?

C'mon dude.

There is so much anti-Christian bias in mainstream media/news as it is.

Take Katie Couric during the Amish school shootings.

When one of the parents of a Columbine shooting victim came on, he said that all the recent school shootings were (to him) a reflection of taking God out of schools, of teaching evolution, that there is no point to life, etc......

Now Couric had other people on the program, other points of view to offer, as any good journalist should.

But she went out of her way to say that the views expressed by the man were not in any way affiltiated with CBS. that's fine I guess, although I think most people know that, and know that she just gives people a forum to discuss current events.

What I can't believe though, is that after the show she goes on her personal blog to apologize to her viewers that they "had to witness those things".

I take that as an active stance against God, against Christianity, and against Christians who have just as much a right to speak their viewpoint as anybody else.

Nobody supposed that she believed the same as the man did, but she went out of her way to make it a big deal and distance herself from it.

No religion is more attacked, ridiculed, or treated as taboo than Christianity.

Another case in point was the senior who graduated as valedictorian this spring, and had her mic literally cut off during her speech for thank Jesus for blessing her.

(because the school "cannot promote a religion"😉

Bullshit.

The school wasn't promoting jack shit, the student was making a personal statement.

You and I both know that had she thanked the calm teachings of buddha that helped her study, or the truths of Islam that gave her wisdom, or her gay parents/lifestyle that taught her to persevere over all obstacles that the school board would have given her a standing ovation.

For certain, they wouldn't have dare tried to censor her for fear of being "intolerant" or "biggoted".

But it's okay to pull the plug on Christianity?

No Bardock, this is wrong, and all jokes aside, you can bet your bottom dollar that I and the other 100 million evagelical Christians in this country aren't standing for it any longer.

Funny that you would liken me to Hitler, when it's my people being hunted.

HAHAHAHA What a laugh.

Christians have been getting their say for the last 1500+ years. Nothing has come from it but death and greed. The Church has been hunting people for centuries and you expect people to feel sorry for you guys and your hypocritical stances?

Whatever man. Christianity, and the rest of religion for that matter, couldn't end soon enough.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Again, more proof in the pudding Christians are regarded as Confederates, psyhcos, full of hysteria, and Nazi's.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Again, no mention of the girl who was denied her graduation speech simply by mentioning that she was Christian, and not allowing her to thank her God.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Also, no mention of the fact that no other religion, ethnic group, or minority would be subjected to such prejudice, since it would be considered a hate crime.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
You can say what you will, but when Katie Couric feels that she has to apologize to "the poor people" for hearing the beliefs of a Christian father of a Columbine victim......

Originally posted by sithsaber408
My people aren't the ones acting like Nazi's.

Originally posted by PVS
October Surprise?

Damn, here I was thinking it was going to be about my Birthday.

Make cake people. Not war.

Happy Birthday. Make a wish and blow out the M109s on your war.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
My people aren't the ones acting like Nazi's.

Then think who are the Nazis.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Damn, here I was thinking it was going to be about my Birthday.

Make cake people. Not war.

You evil Christian corrupter.

W......T.......F.....

who's the wingnut that decided to nail themself to the cross again....so to speak.
the topic is manipulative politicians who attempt to alter the outcome of an election through last second finagling. the left has shown their hand and we still have not seen what the right has in store (assuming they have something)

now, answer me: where the hell does jesus fit in this issue? i would think it sacrilegious to even try to mix christ with politics.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Niether one of you could give any good reason why a high school senior, the valedictorian no less, should have her mic cut during her speech for thanking Jesus Christ if she wishes to do so.

Neither of you can deny that had she thanked Buddha for giving her peace, Allah for giving her wisdom, or her gay parent/life-partner for showing her how to perservere through hardship.... she would have been cheered.

She earned the best grades of all the high school, earned her speech, earned the right to say whatever she pleased, and was CENSORED for thanking her God. She was told not to express her religious freedom.

The fact that its okay to do that to Christians, and you're guilty of a hate crime to do it to anybody else, is something that you cannot deny.

And that doesn't matter... So her mic was cut, shouldn't have happened. I never even said I somewhat agreed with it I didn't, but that doesn't change the fact hat Christians are still the majority in the country that for some reason they still dictate laws. She couldn't say one thing, very bad but that's nothing compared to the shit that's being forced upon homosexuals and non christians.

so what was the october surprise then?

i must've missed it

The wind was really gusty while I was tailgating for a football game on Saturday. I think all the terrorists were involved in blowing at our coastlines.

still a few days left (yes, i know technically not an 'october surprise'😉

Ahhhhh... But thats the ULTIMATE October surprise though isnt it....?
Cunningly unleashing it in November instead.

This pattern of timed scares tied in with the period just before elections is indeed the oldest trick in the book and I personally will be stunned if there isn't a spookifying (To use Bush grammar) piece of alarmificatiousness to rally the scared into making a play for some post-Bush neo-con whitehouse inhabitance.

Mind you, with electronic voting on side and in their pockets, maybe the Cons (And I use that term with much hope that they'll be seeing bubba and the d-wing sisters) can just sit back and relax as they appear to be confidently doing. Without the old "scare'em into doing the 'right wing thing'" tac.

maybe it'll be the government deciding that october will from now on be 3 days longer and november will be 3 days shorter...

that would be surprising