Let's talk about Sodom and Gomorrha.

Started by FeceMan9 pages

Originally posted by Thundar
No one insinuated otherwise Feceman. You know better. The statement was made about how death(or Satan) was only given authority over man after Adam's disobedience. This in no way gives the implication that death/Satan wasn't present before the Flood.

Oh, poop, I realized that I misread what you said originally. My bad.
That being stated, your intepretation of this issue of homosexuality not being evil is a very incorrect one -- and again, I sincerely hope that some of what I've posted has assisted you in understanding how dangerous such a position can be.

Would you at least bother countering any of the points made in this article rather than just saying, "It's a sin, it's a sin, it's a sin"?

http://www.jeramyt.org/gay.html

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I can't believe I actually used to be like them....beleiving the Bible was absolute truth with no actual proof, regardless of the fact that I knew in the back of my mind that the Bible often contradicted reason and reality.
It is okay *pats on back* I did to

Originally posted by TRH
It is okay *pats on back* I did to

cry

*slaps* suck it up man

Originally posted by TRH
*slaps* suck it up man

droolio

2guns

Originally posted by TRH
2guns

2guns droolio

NM

Originally posted by TRH
NM

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To assert that the last recorded acts of a group of Sodomites is proof that Sodom and Gomorra were destroyed for homosexuality is equivocal to asserting that a condemned man cursing his guards on the way to his execution is being executed for cursing the guards; Sodom and Gomorra were planned for destruction long before the mob converged on the home of Lot and demanded to rape his guests.

Homosexuality is not cited anywhere in Genesis 19 as a cause of the destruction of the two cities. In fact, the reason God destroys Sodom and Gomorra is stated clearly in Ezekiel 16:49-50:

"Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy.

Thus they were haughty before Me and I removed them when I saw it."

Furthermore, the sex of the angels is irrelevant; Had the angels been female, it would not suddenly be acceptable to rape them.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
To assert that the last recorded acts of a group of Sodomites is proof that Sodom and Gomorra were destroyed for homosexuality is equivocal to asserting that a condemned man cursing his guards on the way to his execution is being executed for cursing the guards; Sodom and Gomorra were planned for destruction long before the mob converged on the home of Lot and demanded to rape his guests.

Homosexuality is not cited anywhere in Genesis 19 as a cause of the destruction of the two cities. In fact, the reason God destroys Sodom and Gomorra is stated clearly in Ezekiel 16:49-50:

"Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy.

Thus they were haughty before Me and I removed them when I saw it."

Furthermore, the sex of the angels is irrelevant; Had the angels been female, it would not suddenly be acceptable to rape them.


I said it better, with more words, and I'm a Christian.

Originally posted by FeceMan
I said it better, with more words, and I'm a Christian.

Go you.

Originally posted by FeceMan
I said it better, with more words, and I'm a Christian.

Problem being you're all still wrong about this somehow justifying homosexuality as not being an evil-sinful attraction...😉

Originally posted by FeceMan
To assert that the last recorded acts of a group of Sodomites is proof that Sodom and Gomorra were destroyed for homosexuality is equivocal to asserting that a condemned man cursing his guards on the way to his execution is being executed for cursing the guards; Sodom and Gomorra were planned for destruction long before the mob converged on the home of Lot and demanded to rape his guests.

Your guard analogy is also a poor one, because it insinuates that "cursing" at authority is not an evil behavior, simply because someone is being punished for something else. If anything, such addtional evil behavior only further helps demonstrate why Sodom was condemned over other nations. The pride that they had when commiting their sins, was comparable to that of the condemned man cursing at the guards.

So you and Feceman are only partially correct with this interpretation.
Sodom and Gommorah was not solely destroyed for the sin of homosexuality. Rather, they were destroyed for being extremely prideful and unrepentant for all of the sins they had commited.

My apologies Feceman - the second quote was actually Adam Poe's not yours.

Originally posted by Thundar
Problem being you're all still wrong about this somehow justifying homosexuality as not being an evil-sinful attraction...😉

I don't justify homosexuality based on Sodom and Gomorrah--all I'm saying is that Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of the hommasekshul relashuns they wanted with the angels.
Your guard analogy is also a poor one

No, it's pretty good. The prisoner is already ****ed; his cursing at the guard isn't going to make him more ****ed.

So...going to challenge the New Testiment anytime soon?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
So...going to challenge the New Testiment anytime soon?

Nobody likes a smart ass.

Originally posted by Devil King
Nobody likes a smart ass.

But I love you...😮 Well, maybe not love, but respect.

Well, a thread about Sodom and Gomorrah isn't really relevant to the New Testament.

But I'm sure I love you too.

Originally posted by Devil King
Well, a thread about Sodom and Gomorrah isn't really relevant to the New Testament.

But I'm sure I love you too.

...only sure...now I know why you don't look at me during.