What makes the Bible true?

Originally posted by Alliance
Air is 70% Nitrogen. Water does not have "oxygen particles in it" Oxygen is contained in a great many substances. Oxygen atoms are NOT Oxygen gas. Not to mention there is water in the atmosphere so your god did a crappy job on his separations.

Besides this was an Aristotelian idea, nothing special about it besides its wrong.

Oxygen gas is O2; two oxygen atoms covalently bound, however it is not by any means free oxygen atoms. There's a large amount of water in the atmosphere. Fish do not breathe the oxygen covalently bound to hydrogen as water.

You, and your Luddite views of ichthyology and the water cycle, fail.

AND fish can still drown in water( ie not be able to get any oxygen to breathe)
Water only has a limited amount of oxygen( breathable oxygen) in it. If a fish is caught in a net and is not able to move, then it depletes the oxygen in the water around it. Fish have to move in water all the time, in order to get oxygen into their gills. If a fish gets below 1.0-2.0 mg/L oxygen in water it will Die.

The oxygen in the air on this planet is decreasing. That shouldn't be IF ACCORDING to your logic, since there is oxygen in water. In fact oxygen is one of the most common elements in the earth's crust. But that oxygen is bonded, and thus NOT ABLE to escape its bonds and become Oxygen in the gaseous form. WE DO not get oxygen from water itself, the oxygen in the atmosphere is the oxygen( that we breathe) that is not bonded to anything else, oxygen that is dissolved in water, and those produced from plants.

Dissolved is not a bonded. You can dissolve sugar in water and still get back the sugar after the water has been evaporated. You add water to clay to get pottery. After firing, there is no way ( easy way, that does not involve massive chemical infusions) to get that clay back, the way it was. What happens there is that the clay loses its chemically bonded water, and once the chemical bond is gone, its gone.

Have you any idea how much energy is required to break the bonds of a single Water molecule???? Last time I checked, you need temperatures of over 850 celcius and catalysts. The last time the earth was that temperature on average was several billion yrs ago.That type of energy does not exist on the earth's surface naturally anymore. The only way it can be done is by chemical means.

And as God was here first and created everything, I guess Aristotle used God's idea and had everybody think he was so brilliant.

Let me reitterate.

Originally posted by sonnet
My dear, Water = H2O meaning there is 2 hydrogen atoms bonded with 1 oxygen atom.

Originally posted by sonnet
God new exactly what He did as he separated the water mass and the atmosphere so that there could be a sky and a water mass.

Originally posted by sonnet
The fact that there is still oxygen in both means that it was possible for the fish and other water creatures to breath under water. Nothing strange about it.

Originally posted by sonnet
And as God was here first and created everything, I guess Aristotle used God's idea and had everybody think he was so brilliant.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't think anyone has ever even answered this (without using the Bible itself as a reference). Why? If someone here is very devoted to the Bible, and see it as fact, could you tell me how it is fact?

To better answer your predisposed inquiry - you must first answer the causation of the post-disposed inquiry derived from it, i.e. What makes your opinion of the bible and those who believe in it fact?

Ponder over the latter of the two questions for awhile. When you are able to come up with a logical answer to it, then you will have the answer to the proceeding one.

😆 You are a sock. Welcome to KMC. Answer his question and you'll have our answer.

I hate when religous people try to argue science and fail.

Because they couldn't even recognize science if it smacked them in the face.

Poor religion, always playing catch-up to science. 🙁

yeah 600 year catch-up

Originally posted by Alliance
yeah 600 year catch-up

The church is great at improvising, i'll give them that.

Not really: Why is this bad? The bible says so (not really, because the Bible says and doesn't say EVERYTHING)

200 years later, people have accepted that old thing that they used to kill people for and they move on to a new thing.

Example: Interracial marriages to gay marriages

Originally posted by Alliance

Oh really. Clouds are water. God needs to work on his separation skills. Is rain and snow god still separating the masses?
Yes, except there is oxygen gas in water and THAT is what fish use to breathe, not the bound ogyxen atom. I'm sure you didn't learn that in school. One again we have copious amounts of water in the air and copious amounts of oxygen in the water (oxygen atoms in water non wisthstanding). If you'd like to simply tally the oxygen atoms in water, then water is about 95% oxygen atoms by mass. Thats a pretty crappy seperation by your god.

Yeah, thats why Aristotle lived comfortably before the earliest versions of the earliest versions Genesis, not to mention he was much more widely published. Funny coincidence huh?

As Jesus used the Torah which is the Old Testament in the Bible, the first version of Genesis and the Creation by God was written before Aristotle lived. So what is the funny coincidence about being more widely published? It really does not mean anything accept that it was popular reading for people. It does not change the truth about God and the BIble.

"Fish breathe water." What crappy Christian fundamentalist community college gave you a science degree.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
"Fish breathe water." What crappy Christian fundamentalist community college gave you a science degree.

That was funny to me!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
"Fish breathe water." What crappy Christian fundamentalist community college gave you a science degree.

The same Christian Fundamentalist Community College that told her AIDS is a homosexual disease.

the bible and its fantasys are mostly symbolic and coded for initiates to
understand and the masses to take literally

it is symbolic, a coded story to pass on esoteric and astrological knowledge of many kinds and, most crucially, to create another prisonreligion based on the symbols of the Babylonian Brotherhood. The human race has been had. Big time.

It just wouldn't be a Tuesday without your lovely brand of fringe lunacy to mix in with the fundamentalist, emphasis on the mental, "science" now would it?

still banging on about science are we?

isnt it monday today?

Not all of us live in merry old England, Deano, old chap.