You believe Bastila will get "tooled" by Maul?
Bastila Shan was one the Jedi Order's gifted students. Not just for her Battle Meditation, but for her skill in the Force and the lightsaber. During the Jedi Civil War, the Jedi sent her to lead a strike Force in Revan's flagship. Bastila was powerful enough to power through Revan's Sith security and corner Revan. You see her also cutting down Revan's bodyguard with not much difficulty (she doesn't seem tired). This is quite an impressive feat.
In addition, she faced off against Revan on the Rakatan planet, and she seemed to give a nice fight against the former Dark Lord. Note, this is KOTOR Revan, who has surpassed the strength of Darth Revan. She also manages to fight Revan on the Star Forge, though she loses.
As a Jedi, she used powers as variant as Stun to Mind Trick.
Here's how Star Wars Databank describese Shan:
"""Like most Jedi of the ancient order, Bastila Shan was found to be Force-sensitive at a young age, and spirited away from her family to be raised within the order. Despite the stern discipline of a Jedi upbringing, Bastila grew to be a brash, impulsive young woman.
Shan was gifted in art of Jedi Battle Meditation, a rare ability usually only accessible to the most skilled and wizened Jedi Masters. Through sheer force of will, she could influence the course of massive battles. She could bolster the courage of one side of a battle, while draining the resolve of another. It is an exhausting feat, but Bastila proved extremely valuable in crucial engagements during Darth Malak's campaigns against the Republic.
Knowing how valuable she was to the order, the Jedi Council urged Bastila to be cautious, be she nonetheless devoted every fiber of her being towards defeating the Sith menace and proving herself to the Jedi.
Bastila was instrumental in the last great Republic riposte against Darth Malak and Darth Revan, splitting the pair and conquering one of the Sith Lords. The Jedi Council had learned sketchy details about the Sith plot involving the Star Forge, but needed more information in order to stop it. They crafted a devious and controversial plan into which Bastila Shan figured prominently.
The captive Revan underwent a memory wipe, and was given a new identity. This new persona was paired with Bastila Shan in the search for Darth Malak and the Star Forge. Bastila kept a wary eye on Revan, always alert at signs of the dark side. Such an awareness opened her to the dark side more than she intended. The quest for the Star Forge, which spanned worlds, kept Revan and Bastila working side-by-side, and thrust Bastila into difficult and challenging roles as a Jedi.
Bastila, Carth Onasi and the reformed Revan were captured by Darth Malak and held prisoner aboard his flagship, the Leviathan. With the help of their comrades from the Ebon Hawk, the trio escaped, but not before Revan found out the truth behind the Jedi Council's duplicity. Stunned, Revan grappled with the revelation, as Bastila heroically attacked Darth Malak to act as a distraction. Revan and Carth fled to the Hawk, blasting free of the Sith warship, but Bastila was once again imprisoned."""
Now, Maul is very good. However, i doubt he can "tool" Bastila, just defeat her.
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
You believe Bastila will get "tooled" by Maul?Bastila Shan was one the Jedi Order's gifted students. Not just for her Battle Meditation, but for her skill in the Force and the lightsaber. During the Jedi Civil War, the Jedi sent her to lead a strike Force in Revan's flagship. Bastila was powerful enough to power through Revan's Sith security and corner Revan. You see her also cutting down Revan's bodyguard with not much difficulty (she doesn't seem tired). This is quite an impressive feat.
In addition, she faced off against Revan on the Rakatan planet, and she seemed to give a nice fight against the former Dark Lord. Note, this is KOTOR Revan, who has surpassed the strength of Darth Revan. She also manages to fight Revan on the Star Forge, though she loses.
As a Jedi, she used powers as variant as Stun to Mind Trick.
Here's how Star Wars Databank describese Shan:
"""Like most Jedi of the ancient order, Bastila Shan was found to be Force-sensitive at a young age, and spirited away from her family to be raised within the order. Despite the stern discipline of a Jedi upbringing, Bastila grew to be a brash, impulsive young woman.
Shan was gifted in art of Jedi Battle Meditation, a rare ability usually only accessible to the most skilled and wizened Jedi Masters. Through sheer force of will, she could influence the course of massive battles. She could bolster the courage of one side of a battle, while draining the resolve of another. It is an exhausting feat, but Bastila proved extremely valuable in crucial engagements during Darth Malak's campaigns against the Republic.Knowing how valuable she was to the order, the Jedi Council urged Bastila to be cautious, be she nonetheless devoted every fiber of her being towards defeating the Sith menace and proving herself to the Jedi.
Bastila was instrumental in the last great Republic riposte against Darth Malak and Darth Revan, splitting the pair and conquering one of the Sith Lords. The Jedi Council had learned sketchy details about the Sith plot involving the Star Forge, but needed more information in order to stop it. They crafted a devious and controversial plan into which Bastila Shan figured prominently.
The captive Revan underwent a memory wipe, and was given a new identity. This new persona was paired with Bastila Shan in the search for Darth Malak and the Star Forge. Bastila kept a wary eye on Revan, always alert at signs of the dark side. Such an awareness opened her to the dark side more than she intended. The quest for the Star Forge, which spanned worlds, kept Revan and Bastila working side-by-side, and thrust Bastila into difficult and challenging roles as a Jedi.
Bastila, Carth Onasi and the reformed Revan were captured by Darth Malak and held prisoner aboard his flagship, the Leviathan. With the help of their comrades from the Ebon Hawk, the trio escaped, but not before Revan found out the truth behind the Jedi Council's duplicity. Stunned, Revan grappled with the revelation, as Bastila heroically attacked Darth Malak to act as a distraction. Revan and Carth fled to the Hawk, blasting free of the Sith warship, but Bastila was once again imprisoned."""
Now, Maul is very good. However, i doubt he can "tool" Bastila, just defeat her.
I think we all know who Bastila is you don't need to post her Biography. Its never said Bastila was one of the best in the order, she has ONE ability that was rare for her age. That hardly makes her some kind of beast. She's good but nowhere on Mauls level. She NEVER displays lightsaber skills on the level of Maul. And as for cornering Revan, Had Malak not betrayed Revan, I have NO doubt in my mind Revan would have WTFPwned all the Jedi on his brig. As for being chosen, she was chosen because she could use her BM to gain access to Revans ship, thats it. Maul would indeed skull **** Bastila.
I think we all know who Bastila is you don't need to post her Biography. Its never said Bastila was one of the best in the order, she has ONE ability that was rare for her age. That hardly makes her some kind of beast. She's good but nowhere on Mauls level. She NEVER displays lightsaber skills on the level of Maul. And as for cornering Revan, Had Malak not betrayed Revan, I have NO doubt in my mind Revan would have WTFPwned all the Jedi on his brig. As for being chosen, she was chosen because she could use her BM to gain access to Revans ship, thats it. Maul would indeed skull **** Bastila.
1.) BM is not something you can use while you're running around slaughtering Sith security guards. You have to sit down and meditate, hence the name. You see it in a cutscene as well. Bastila's skill was able
to propel her to the bridge, which is an impressive as there's no one left except Revan.
2.) SW Databank "Shan was gifted in art of Jedi Battle Meditation, a rare ability usually only accessible to the most skilled and wizened Jedi Masters." This tells that Bastila not only knew BM but was gifted in it. Most Masters don't even know how to use BM, least of all be skilled in it.
3.) And how does she have no lightsaber technique? She fought against Revan and Rakatan planet and managed to give him a good fight. In addition, notice how easily she learns Dark Side powers to use against him. She must be skilled. Just because we only see her in a video game gives you no right to say "Oh Maul's would wtf pwn Bastila". That's stupid. Look how Revan was displayed in POD, and that was only Darth Revan, and light Revan was given a good fight by Bastila.
Yes, I know Maul would win, but Bastila could easily use Force powers on him and even if he is better in the saber, he cannot in any way tool Bastila.
Bastilla was a master of battle meditation. She had a strong force sense She was easily able to Force Stun her opponents, something that I don't think we've ever seen Maul do. She was also so strong with the Force Mind trick that she could Force Mind trick Hutts, something ROTJ Luke couldn't do, and I doubt Maul's that far ahead of ROTJ Luke. When she was a Sith she used Force Horror, Force Wave and Force Stasis. Force Horror is a powerful Force move which makes multiple opponents go into a catatonic state of panic. Force Wave is an advanced version of Force Push, which is what Yoda and Mace use in the Microseries against the droids on Courscant when they send tons of them flying back. Maul could not stand up to that. Force Stasis is a kore pwoerful version of Force stun. Maul is not that good, he only ever used basic Force Powers like Force Push, telekinesis, speed and grip. He would not be able to beat Bastilla. At the very least Bastila would hold him off till Sidious dies and then Revan and Bastila together would pwn him,
Note that Rots sidious is as powerful as he was in DE, DE sidious is stronger because of a wider range of force powers.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Gameplay powers? they are not canon, O then maul pwns because he uses red lightning in some game on playstation1
Quote the game then.
Revan was shown to know super powers like Force Thought Bomb and Foce Storm, etc. The Dark Side powers in the video game actually supports this claim of Revan's super strength. I am inclined to believe that the Force powers Revan can learn as a Darksider in KOTOR might actually have been what he learned as Darth Revan.
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
1.) BM is not something you can use while you're running around slaughtering Sith security guards. You have to sit down and meditate, hence the name. You see it in a cutscene as well. Bastila's skill was able
to propel her to the bridge, which is an impressive as there's no one left except Revan.2.) SW Databank "Shan was gifted in art of Jedi Battle Meditation, a rare ability usually only accessible to the most skilled and wizened Jedi Masters." This tells that Bastila not only knew BM but was gifted in it. Most Masters don't even know how to use BM, least of all be skilled in it.
3.) And how does she have no lightsaber technique? She fought against Revan and Rakatan planet and managed to give him a good fight. In addition, notice how easily she learns Dark Side powers to use against him. She must be skilled. Just because we only see her in a video game gives you no right to say "Oh Maul's would wtf pwn Bastila". That's stupid. Look how Revan was displayed in POD, and that was only Darth Revan, and light Revan was given a good fight by Bastila.
Yes, I know Maul would win, but Bastila could easily use Force powers on him and even if he is better in the saber, he cannot in any way tool Bastila.
1. I said Bastila used it to allow the Jedi to get to Revans flagship as the loading screens in KOTOR say, Wow she kills a DJ scrub SHE MUST BE SKILLED! SHE MUST EB ON MAULS LEVEL. Killing a faceless character with no background of power is not something to be impressed with.
2. So what. She knew BM and was good at it, so what. How will that save her from Maul hacking her in half.
3. I beat Bastila in 1 move on Lehon, because that scene is still based on different gameplay it hold no weight in this argument.
1. I said Bastila used it to allow the Jedi to get to Revans flagship as the loading screens in KOTOR say, Wow she kills a DJ scrub SHE MUST BE SKILLED! SHE MUST EB ON MAULS LEVEL. Killing a faceless character with no background of power is not something to be impressed with.2. So what. She knew BM and was good at it, so what. How will that save her from Maul hacking her in half.
3. I beat Bastila in 1 move on Lehon, because that scene is still based on different gameplay it hold no weight in this argument.
1.) The Dark Jedi is part of Revan's bodyguards. Apparently, Revan doesn't keep some measely Sith next to him if any other Sith master could kill them. No, it's just like the Emperor having his personal bodyguards. They are not weak, are they? Bastila cut down Revan's last defence, who have to be strong otherwise Revan must be really stupid to have some measely Sith protect him. However, Revan is a tactical genius, he won't do that. Those DJ must have been masters.
2.) It won't. I proved to you that the Jedi Council sent Bastila for her skill in the saber and Force, not for BM
3.) Why did Malak send Bastila to kill Revan? If Bastila was a weakling, Malak could have just locked her in a room and forced her to do BM when the Republic Capital ships came. No, he knows that she's powerful, so he sends her against Revan. Otherwise, why send her?
Maul is too powerful for Bastilla. He is far more skilled in martial arts and lightsaber combat, and would ultimately defeat her.
Sidious and Revan would be interesting. In light of Revan's newfound powers, he's certainly on par (and likely better) than RotS Sidious. However, given Sidious's self-preservative fighting style and his instinct for using the environment - as well as his own considerable lightsaber skills and Force powers - he would easily give Revan a fight.
Once Maul kills Bastilla, he'll rush over to help his master kill Revan.
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
Hey Sexy, why don't you prove it then? Maul cannot wtf pwn Bastila. If you don't believe it, then you're going against logic.
While I do agree that Bastilla was enormously talented, she doesn't stand much of a chance in combat against Maul. Understand, Prodigal, that Maul has trained and mastered a vast array of combat arts and skills. He is stronger, more agile, and faster than Bastilla - and given Maul's track record - I'd not hesitate to say he's considerably more skilled with his lightsaber.
Bastilla possesses Battle Meditation, and that is considerable. But, it really won't factor into a fight against someone who is simply much better trained than she is.
Think about it: Qui-Gon Jinn (Dooku's prized pupil and a man on par with Windu) even confessed that he stood no chance against Maul, despite possessing roughly six decades worth of experience and skill.
Bastilla doesn't have much of a chance, and would likely go down quickly in combat.