Your statements are so idiotic, I don't see why I should give you the time of day to respond. But in one final attempt to shut you up.
Mauls abilities involve saber mastery and some force abilities. He was good enough to duel and somewhat defeat Obiwan and Qui Gonn. He was almost able to beat Sidious after having survived on a planet for a month.
Bastilla has absolutely SHIT to her name besides her BM.. Therefore, you lose.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Your statements are so idiotic, I don't see why I should give you the time of day to respond. But in one final attempt to shut you up.Mauls abilities involve saber mastery and some force abilities. He was good enough to duel and somewhat defeat Obiwan and Qui Gonn. He was almost able to beat Sidious after having survived on a planet for a month.
Bastilla has absolutely SHIT to her name besides her BM.. Therefore, you lose.
And he is good enough to kill bastila
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
1.) The Dark Jedi is part of Revan's bodyguards. Apparently, Revan doesn't keep some measely Sith next to him if any other Sith master could kill them. No, it's just like the Emperor having his personal bodyguards. They are not weak, are they? Bastila cut down Revan's last defence, who have to be strong otherwise Revan must be really stupid to have some measely Sith protect him. However, Revan is a tactical genius, he won't do that. Those DJ must have been masters.2.) It won't. I proved to you that the Jedi Council sent Bastila for her skill in the saber and Force, not for BM
3.) Why did Malak send Bastila to kill Revan? If Bastila was a weakling, Malak could have just locked her in a room and forced her to do BM when the Republic Capital ships came. No, he knows that she's powerful, so he sends her against Revan. Otherwise, why send her?
1. Conceded.
2. No you didn't, The damn KOTOR loading screens say Bastila was chosen for her BM ability and it was used to break through to Revans ship, which would have otherwise been impossible since KOTOR states that the fleet sent along with the Strike Team was small and the Sith were near invincible with Revans aid. Why would the Jedi risk the ONLY thing keeping the Rpeublic from Sith domination against DARTH F*cuking Revan. They wouldn't, this leads me to believe that Bastila knowing her as many times stated headstrong, impulsive nature she ran ahead to fight Revan, and again why in the **** would the Jedi send a Padawan to fight a Dark Lord especially when there are MASTERS who Bastila admits even when being pumped by the SF as being stronger then her around who are much better suited for the job.
3. Malak didn't send Bastila she went on her own accord, Bastila said Malak didn't even think Revan would return to Lehon.
While I do agree that Bastilla was enormously talented, she doesn't stand much of a chance in combat against Maul. Understand, Prodigal, that Maul has trained and mastered a vast array of combat arts and skills. He is stronger, more agile, and faster than Bastilla - and given Maul's track record - I'd not hesitate to say he's considerably more skilled with his lightsaber.Bastilla possesses Battle Meditation, and that is considerable. But, it really won't factor into a fight against someone who is simply much better trained than she is.
Think about it: Qui-Gon Jinn (Dooku's prized pupil and a man on par with Windu) even confessed that he stood no chance against Maul, despite possessing roughly six decades worth of experience and skill.
Bastilla doesn't have much of a chance, and would likely go down quickly in combat.
Aye, Escape, I understand what you are saying. I have acknowledged that Maul win, however I disagree with you that she'll go down quickly, or hence get tooled.
Bastila is powerful without BM. I have already shown that in my posts. Bastila is easily better in the Force than Maul. Maul hasn't even shown us really a single Force move except maybe a Push on Obi-Wan Kenobi.
As for the saber, Maul can probably win. However, considering how the battle goes, I am sure that Bastila will resort on Force attacks on Maul to weaken him down as she'll probably get it that she cannot compete in the saber against the Zabrak Sith Lord.
In the end, she dies. However, by quickly I am not sure what you mean, but I say she lasts at least a minute for sure.
Prodigal Knight, on the subject regarding the "bodyguards", unlike the real world, it is almost taboo in Star Wars for the lackeys and bodyguards to be much weaker than the head honcho themselves.
Unless of course you think that the Royal Guardsmen would be able to stop a threat that Palpatine himself couldn't handle?
Those Dark Jedi weren't likely masters. It's usually a sign of power to have bodyguards - or for them to act as canon fodder.
Consider in RotS. Yoda took down the elite Royal Guards in an almost cartoonish ease. In a single Force attack, he disabled them both. But he had the fight of his life when he engaged Palpatine in combat.
The point is - as with the Royal Guards - they're just "good". There's nothing to presume that his men had any real talents about them.
Originally posted by Prodigal KnightBastila is powerful without BM. I have already shown that in my posts. Bastila is easily better in the Force than Maul. Maul hasn't even shown us really a single Force move except maybe a Push on Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Good god, WHERE? Where has Bastilla shown to be very powerful in the force, much less even more powerful than Maul? Gameplay doesn't mean shit, so I don't know where you are getting your diluted facts from.[quote]As for the saber, Maul can probably win. However, considering how the battle goes, I am sure that Bastila will resort on Force attacks on Maul to weaken him down as she'll probably get it that she cannot compete in the saber against the Zabrak Sith Lord.
2. No you didn't, The damn KOTOR loading screens say Bastila was chosen for her BM ability and it was used to break through to Revans ship, which would have otherwise been impossible since KOTOR states that the fleet sent along with the Strike Team was small and the Sith were near invincible with Revans aid. Why would the Jedi risk the ONLY thing keeping the Rpeublic from Sith domination against DARTH F*cuking Revan. They wouldn't, this leads me to believe that Bastila knowing her as many times stated headstrong, impulsive nature she ran ahead to fight Revan, and again why in the **** would the Jedi send a Padawan to fight a Dark Lord especially when there are MASTERS who Bastila admits even when being pumped by the SF as being stronger then her around who are much better suited for the job.3. Malak didn't send Bastila she went on her own accord, Bastila said Malak didn't even think Revan would return to Lehon.
Indeed, she was chosen for her BM to help the Republic fleet last for a while agains the Sith. HOWEVER, why would the JEdi risk sending her into Revan's ship all the way to Bridge to confront the Dark Lord. Obviously, they could have chosen someone else to lead the strike team as Bastila is ONLY NEEDED for the BM. I highly doubt that Bastila ran right for Revan. But even so, she still managed to get to the Bridge.
I am not sure if Revan's flagship was the Leviathan, but considering how the Leviathan was fully of security and Revan would probably expect an infiltration, by making it up to him, Bastila has basically eluded all of Revan's guards and traps.
Originally posted by Escape81
The saberfights between Dooku and Yoda, and Sidious and Yoda lasted less than a minute.
And Dooku was about to get owned, and Sidious and Yoda had multiple cut aways thus we dont know how long it lasted unless we add in the time from the cutaway, I speaking like Vodo vs Kun looked like it lasted about a minute yet Kun still owned him.
Those Dark Jedi weren't likely masters. It's usually a sign of power to have bodyguards - or for them to act as canon fodder.
Revan doesn't keep bodyguards to be like canon fodder. Revan would probably except betrayal from Malak typically, so he needs protections "just in case".
Good god, WHERE? Where has Bastilla shown to be very powerful in the force, much less even more powerful than Maul? Gameplay doesn't mean shit, so I don't know where you are getting your diluted facts from.
What has Maul shown us, a measely Force Push or what? Read this, it's not proven true but it seems likely to be true, since I am using logic to make this assumption
Revan was shown to know super powers like Force Thought Bomb and Foce Storm, etc. The Dark Side powers in the video game actually supports this claim of Revan's super strength. I am inclined to believe that the Force powers Revan can learn as a Darksider in KOTOR might actually have been what he learned as Darth Revan.
Now I am not saying Bastila knows Horror, but I definately definately know she knows something more than a Force Push.
Can probably win? I'd say a tooling is what Bastilla is going to get. Since you can't show me what force attacks she has that would give her a decisive advantage over Maul, I'll call bullshit and go with my logic.
Does "will win" sound better?
Lasting a minute is still getting owned.
You blind? I said "at least a minute" though it'll probably be two or three times as longer.
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
Indeed, she was chosen for her BM to help the Republic fleet last for a while agains the Sith. HOWEVER, why would the JEdi risk sending her into Revan's ship all the way to Bridge to confront the Dark Lord. Obviously, they could have chosen someone else to lead the strike team as Bastila is ONLY NEEDED for the BM. I highly doubt that Bastila ran right for Revan. But even so, she still managed to get to the Bridge.I am not sure if Revan's flagship was the Leviathan, but considering how the Leviathan was fully of security and Revan would probably expect an infiltration, by making it up to him, Bastila has basically eluded all of Revan's guards and traps.
I highly doubt Bastila "lead" the strike team, knowing Bastilas nature and the fact she ran straight for Malak when she got the chance its hardly OOC for her to do it.
The Leviathan was Sauls ship.
Im sure the strike team consisted of more then 4 Jedi, the rest probably did the brunt of the work, and Bastila seeing her shot at Revan runs toward him.
I highly doubt Bastila "lead" the strike team, knowing Bastilas nature and the fact she ran straight for Malak when she got the chance its hardly OOC for her to do it.The Leviathan was Sauls ship.
Im sure the strike team consisted of more then 4 Jedi, the rest probably did the brunt of the work, and Bastila seeing her shot at Revan runs toward him.
That's just making s*it up. In the cutscene, we see three Jedi, including Bastila. Bastila is not so arrogant to run right up for Revan. After all, even if she's brash she stills carefully follows the words of the Council and the Order.
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
What has Maul shown us, a measely Force Push or what? Read this, it's not proven true but it seems likely to be true, since I am using logic to make this assumption
Now I am not saying Bastila knows Horror, but I definately definately know she knows something more than a Force Push.
You blind? I said "at least a minute" though it'll probably be two or three times as longer. [/B]
Good thing you have something to back this up.. Oh wait. I wouldn't give her 30 seconds with Maul.
Revan doesn't keep bodyguards to be like canon fodder. Revan would probably except betrayal from Malak typically, so he needs protections "just in case".
Despite Revan's considerable tactical ability, you can't say that he expected betrayal from Malak. Considering how they were war buddies and close companions, it's just as possible that Revan didn't see it coming - especially if he chose to rely on Malak in such an intense battle.
Also, Revan and Malak must be close in power if he doesn't feel confident enough to take him out by himself, especially when it is common knowledge that Malak is an unrestrained psychopath who rarely possesses any subtlety, and Revan is an impressive tactition.
As I said, Prodigal, it is nearly taboo (in the case of Force users) for the henchmen to be weaker than the boss. By a considerable degree. So, I don't see how killing a few Dark Jedi is impressive in the grand scheme of things.
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
That's just making s*it up. In the cutscene, we see three Jedi, including Bastila. Bastila is not so arrogant to run right up for Revan. After all, even if she's brash she stills carefully follows the words of the Council and the Order.
No I'm not look at the strike team on the SF, it had MUCH more then 3 members not including Revans party, its stupid to think the Jedi would send two jedi's and a padawan to take down DARTH REVAN, use your head. Bastila has exhibited the same behavior when she ran ahead to fight Malak, is it so hard to see her especially younger doing the same to Revan, she even admits her own arrogance, impulsiveness, and the fact that she's extremely headstrong.