Nova(annihilation) vs Silver Surfer (annihilation)

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Nova(annihilation) vs Silver Surfer (annihilation)

Who wins?

Isn't Silver Surfer back at Herald level?

Originally posted by Rewmac
Isn't Silver Surfer back at Herald level?

He was always at Herald level but this time he got boosted.

^^^ right , not only he was at herald level, he was the most powful of the heralds, and now with the bost in power and his confindence and sence of right and wrong restored, he is far more powerful than he was b4 (Galactus said that the Surfer has never used more than a fraction of his power)

By The Way ... the annihilation books makes the heralds (and Galactus himself) look weak and almost useless.

i dout nova is even on herald level.

Originally posted by complexbrother
^^^ right , not only he was at herald level, he was the most powful of the heralds, and now with the bost in power and his confindence and sence of right and wrong restored, he is far more powerful than he was b4 (Galactus said that the Surfer has never used more than a fraction of his power)[/B]

Surfer had most of his power drained away in FF#72 by the sonic shark (referred to again in a few following FF issues, then in SS#2 I believe, in his first series). I don't know if in the years/mags following, if his power was ever officially restored, or Marvel just slipped it in unannounced, so to speak. In any event, this has always been a thorn in my side when SS fought Thor for the first time.
Regards Nova: SS wins.

^^^ By The Way ... the annihilation books makes the heralds (and Galactus himself) look weak and almost useless.

Ditto.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
He was always at Herald level but this time he got boosted.

He wasn't always herald level. But as boosted version we saw pretty much power, I'll say Nova gets owned. Nova is the shittest herald I've seen. 🙄

Originally posted by Rewmac
He wasn't always herald level. But as boosted version we saw pretty much power, I'll say Nova gets owned. Nova is the shittest herald I've seen. 🙄

You are thinking of the wring Nova, this is Nova of the Nova corps (the old new warrior).

Nova has become much stronger since he basically is the nova force, but look at how much more damage the heralds do to the wave than he does. he upgrade was serious, but not enough. He gets his butt kicked by SS

Originally posted by Rewmac
He wasn't always herald level. But as boosted version we saw pretty much power, I'll say Nova gets owned. Nova is the shittest herald I've seen. 🙄

Nova is not a Galactus herald and since SS didn't get depowered when he betrayed Galactus he remained herald level all the time.

Originally posted by complexbrother
By The Way ... the annihilation books makes the heralds (and Galactus himself) look weak and almost useless.
IMO I think that they are made to look weak in the beginning, so that everyone is more impressed (especially with Galactus) by the end of the series when he "wakes up"

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Nova is not a Galactus herald and since SS didn't get depowered when he betrayed Galactus he remained herald level all the time.

he was just mistaken - he was thinking of Franky Rae.

and for the record - Air Walker is the crappiest herald

didn't the last guy with the full nova force totally walk all over a group of heralds?

Silver Surfer takes this. Stardust and Red Shift are treated like they are more powerful than Nova, like in Annihilation #3 they are stated as being the only ones with enough power to clear a path to the emergency ships. and Silver Surfer is a league above those two, so he should be above Nova also.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Silver Surfer takes this. Stardust and Red Shift are treated like they are more powerful than Nova, like in Annihilation #3 they are stated as being the only ones with enough power to clear a path to the emergency ships. and Silver Surfer is a league above those two, so he should be above Nova also.

Agreed

Originally posted by manorastroman
didn't the last guy with the full nova force totally walk all over a group of heralds?

Yeah, Super-Nova beat a really powerful Avengers team that had Thor, Quasar and Firelord I believe.

Nova said Stardust and Red Shift were more powerful than him so based on that Surfer kills him. I still think Nova is holding back power though. The last time he used his full power he went a little crazy. Still, he's about to go toe to toe with Annihilus so he's got to be pretty powerful.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
...and since SS didn't get depowered when he betrayed Galactus he remained herald level all the time.

Are you referring to his original betrayal? Galactus removed Surfer's spacetime powers as punishment for his betrayal. And again, the sonic shark drained Surfer of almost all his cosmic power.

Originally posted by complexbrother
^^^ right , not only he was at herald level, he was the most powful of the heralds, and now with the bost in power and his confindence and sence of right and wrong restored, he is far more powerful than he was b4 (Galactus said that the Surfer has never used more than a fraction of his power)

By The Way ... the annihilation books makes the heralds (and Galactus himself) look weak and almost useless.

I've read Annihilation #4 over and over and i've yet to find where Galactus says the Surfers powers will be increased. Can somebody please tell me where this occurs or is this just pure FIS? (Fanboy induced stupidity)

Originally posted by dmills
I've read Annihilation #4 over and over and i've yet to find where Galactus says the Surfers powers will be increased. Can somebody please tell me where this occurs or is this just pure FIS? (Fanboy induced stupidity)
It's FIS he offers him extra power but he refuses it, he just turns him from being a pacifist into a more aggressive being.

This fight already happened, Surfer stomped Nova.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
This fight already happened, Surfer stomped Nova.
Pure FIS. Surfer didn't STOMP Nova. You're seeing what you want to see.