Originally posted by batdude123
I love it how when DC characters get a power upgrade, it's crap, but when it's a Marvel character, it's beautiful writing.
Supes wins another battle. The haters (Supes should just start rapping...even Jay Z hasn't had this amount of dedicated haters...) cry out in anguish.
Caps/Surfer/Iron man/Thor/Strange pull off something ridiculous. QUICKLY, shout it out to the world! It is testament!
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Supes wins another battle. The haters (Supes should just start rapping...even Jay Z hasn't had this amount of dedicated haters...) cry out in anguish.Caps/Surfer/Iron man/Thor/Strange pull off something ridiculous. QUICKLY, shout it out to the world! It is testament!
Surfer, Strange and Thor all have magic/plot devices in their favor.
Its not as hard to buy.
Superman being much more limited, makes it a harder sell.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Surfer, Strange and Thor all have magic/plot devices in their favor.Its not as hard to buy.
Superman being much more limited, makes it a harder sell.
The problem is, the character just can't win. Because on the same board that is asking whether Superman is ridiculously over-powered are a bunch of threads trying to prove that he can be beaten by half the population of either the Marvel or DC universes. If he can be beaten by the Hulk, the Ray, a bunch of mutants and a couple of characters I've never even heard of according to some members, then he's not over-powered.
If, on the other hand, he IS over-powered, then then most get punked within 0.7 seconds and all the 'versus' threads are pointless.
Imo, he's not overpowered.
But he is overstroked. As a character.
He's(imo) not as powerful as Surfer, Thor, Strange,GL, and many more.
But he's overused by many writers at times. He's not a swiss army knife type character.
His powerset is straightforward, and isn't vague at all, except for his bioaura.
He's not as powerful as some, but is more powerful than many, in a strange way.
Thor, imo, is more powerful.
But both fighting at their best, he'd lose the majority. Why??
Cuz Supermans brute/speed/durability combo is tough to beat.
Take away his speed, and he loses alot of the matches around here.
People wanna debate.
Its hard to debate, when the first word out someones mouth is speedblitz.
This has been used against GL, Magneto,Surfer,Thor and countless others.
I like the character, but hate debating him.
And you gotta realize, his speed is a deterrent.
Most characters are overstroked within their own titles.
When Superman is written horribly, toned down to make the villain of the week shine, as well as any newbie hero that's around, we get to see people saying "Superman is just weak and pathetic. X/Y can beat Superman. Superman is nothing" and so on.
When finally, the bad portrayals end and Superman is written as he is supposed to be, they suddenly switch tracks to "Oh no!! He's too powerful!".
They have no problem when it comes to anyone else being ultra powerful/smart. When it is Superman, who is SUPPOSED to be at the top of the foodchain, it's somehow a disaster.
Look at Thanos in marvel. Powerful enough to go toe to toe with mighty Odin himself. Arguably the most intelligent being in the Marvel universe. Experience that is unparalleled. Yet, he does not win every fight because there is always a way to defeat someone, regardless of how powerful and mighty they are.
I don't see any problem here. The only problem I see is how he gets weakened every now and then to make every random villain/hero on the block shine, and finally that seems to be ending.
If anything, the problems are actually being solved now. Superman is no longer a joke, and finally he's getting what he deserves, and things are going to be the way they are supposed to be.
Originally posted by batdude123
Torquasm-Vo!!! stfu2
Can someone actually explain what the **** this is for me please? I hear it thrown around alot but I dont understand it, I know its some sort of Kryptonian martial arts but I dont see why it is so powerful (bear in mind I've never actually seen it in use though) 😕