Is Superman above the top tier?

Started by Soujaboy8 pages

Originally posted by Board Walker
It is the same as me asking How does thor lift a serpent that was wrapped around earth? He shouldn't even be able to lift it because it would shatter the earth if it moved to quickly.

It is the same as me asking, how does Thor manipulate the Odin force, it is but a source of mystical energy, he should not be able to touch it?

Superman is able to manipulate a black hole because he manipulated the gravity.

T-vo is not a form of "telepathy" as it is quite real and warps reality, it is a zen like meditation state of the kryptonians, it is mystical in nature not telepathic.

Silver surfer did start out as a Earth based hero, he started as a scientist of his home planet which Galactus came to destory, Norrin gave his life so Galactus would spare his home planet. Silver Surfer shortly after rebelled against Galactus for not wanting him to destroy the Earth, Galactus then imprisoned him there. All of silver surfers early comics were on earth, SS was in all accounts a earth based hero.

It is the same a me saying Thor was originally a earth based hero, his creation from Asgard but none the less a earth based hero.

What does your favorite character have to do with superman? Why else would you have a dislike for superman, is it because you are a fan of his character and see the current writing as worsening what he is? Because I for one see character development as good, for a character to expand and grow and not be confined to a cage.

If you are not a fan of superman, then what other reason would you psychologicaly have for disliking superman? you must in some way dislike him then because he in some way or anther crosses your perceptions or you see him as a threat to your percption in some way.

How so? the Midgard Serpent was a solid object of matter and was able to be lifted with an efficient amount of strength. Holding a black hole on the other hand is physically impossible, seeing as a black hole is an area or tear in space-time. There's no explanation for that considering there's no possible way to hold "space". Because of this I consider this feat PIS, and another way to make Superman look the "best".

How does Thor manipulate the Odin Force? it's an internal energy source just as the power cosmic is Surfer. It's kind of similar to someones life force, except magic.

When did Superman gain the ability to manipulate matter? All I saw was the physically struggle with a tear in space, I didn't see or read the manipulation part.

Considering my favorite character is a Marvel character, this debate has nothing to do with which character is you or I's favorite. It's all about poor writing with no explanations.

For one the planet Norrin originally inhabited wasn't earth, and for two you just gave me an explanation of how Silver Surfer went from man to cosmic being. Now do the same, and explain to me how Superman was able to physically hold a black hole. Oh yea and while your at it explain to me how Superman went from being faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, to being able to move faster than the speed of light, more powerful than Darkseid, and able to transverse a galaxy in seconds.

There's a simple reason for why I dislike Superman, and it has nothing to do with Thor. The reason being is Superman is a poorly written character.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Your trying to staple logic onto suprman, yet you don't try to place logic on Silver surfer or Thor do you?

Its simply explained by the power cosmic, or magic, isn't it?

Superman is not just a flying brick with fist, he has a slew of powers, and has shown them time and time again.

People think that Superman is and should be nothng more then a brick with fist, that the momment he starts energy manipulating on a grand scale and using Mystical powers such as T-vo, people call it PIS. Simply because it does not fit in with their narrow minded view of Superman as a brick with fist.

Superman is being written more and more true to what he was made to be, what he is, and what he will be, the comic hero that defines all other comic heroes.

As the idea of superman grows, some people are angered by it, in particular those who's favorite comic character is threatened by him.

the thought of a all powerful superman dose not fit the world we live in this is not the 50's most power like their heros more down to earth shit alot of kids don't even read comics anymore this is not a nice or happy world we live in people don't want a happy go luck superman who use's super mathematics that shit work in the 50's but not now.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The complaint isn't coming from just "getting new powers" it's the plot devies or ways that he just "finds a way". If he loses, he comes back and wins. We like our heroes to have the ability to face innumerable odds, but despite the comic being fictional we want an aspect of realism and a suspension of belief and accurate grounding within them. As well as consistency.

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Perfeclty said.

My biggest complain is not superman, but the poorly thought out solutions to supermans hardships, to the point where things are pulled out of thin air. This is not just limited to superman

Originally posted by mighty adam
the thought of a all powerful superman dose not fit the world we live in this is not the 50's most power like their heros more down to earth shit alot of kids don't even read comics anymore this is not a nice or happy world we live in people don't want a happy go luck superman who use's super mathematics that shit work in the 50's but not now.

Super Mathmatics is overrated IMHO:

Incidentally, 20 x 16 x 10 = 3,200, not 32,000.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Super Mathmatics is overrated IMHO:

rofl ive seen that
isint taht equation wrong?
EDIT: lol yes i see now

rofl

hes so confident yet, so wrong

Originally posted by Kutulu
Super Mathmatics is overrated IMHO:

Incidentally, 20 x 16 x 10 = 3,200, not 32,000.


Kal El's superior kryptonian brain

I say thee nay!!

Originally posted by Kutulu
Super Mathmatics is overrated IMHO:

Incidentally, 20 x 16 x 10 = 3,200, not 32,000.

😆 So much for super brain. Better stick to super fist

Originally posted by Kutulu
Super Mathmatics is overrated IMHO:

Incidentally, 20 x 16 x 10 = 3,200, not 32,000.

its just stupid and lame no matter how you look at it.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Super Mathmatics is overrated IMHO:

Incidentally, 20 x 16 x 10 = 3,200, not 32,000.

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Originally posted by lando005
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Originally posted by lando005
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good one so true.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Super Mathmatics is overrated IMHO:

Incidentally, 20 x 16 x 10 = 3,200, not 32,000.

I want a sig of that now. 😆

where r the superman supporters at a time like this

In the Superman blue thread.

Originally posted by lando005
desktop computer $800, scaner $250 cable internet connection $99 comic book $2.50,picture of superman makeing a total ass of himself priceless
Cable internet is expensive where you live. It's less than a third of that here.

Originally posted by Juntai
Cable internet is expensive where you live. It's less than a third of that here.
correction that's for the special bellsouth rate cable internet, cell phone and house phone

Toppers!

If you ask me, I think Superman defines the top tier

I'd say the same.