Revan versus Yoda and Mace Windu

Originally posted by Escape81
"On par"?

Oh, no, I disagree, completely. Shatterpoint detailed an example where Mace controlled an avalanche (and rode it, I believe) using the Force. To share the title of senior Master (which we know isn't dictated by age, as Mace isn't that old) with Yoda - it is likely that he must be very, very, very close to Yoda in power.

Yes, I agree. He's no match for Sidious or Yoda in a contest of sheer Force powers. But, given Mace's Shatterpoint ability and Vaapad, I'd put him, at least, as Revan's equal in swordsmanship (and would likely defeat Revan in blade-to-blade combat).

The only true thing I'd wager on is Revan's considerable Force abilities. But Yoda or Sidious could possibly defeat or stalemate Revan in combat, Mace and Dooku could certainly give him a run for his money, too. And so could Anakin - in sheer saber combat.

You've got a point, just not on Anakin. He's just not emotionably fit to fight someone with half a brain.

Originally posted by Escape81
"On par"?

Oh, no, I disagree, completely. Shatterpoint detailed an example where Mace controlled an avalanche (and rode it, I believe) using the Force. To share the title of senior Master (which we know isn't dictated by age, as Mace isn't that old) with Yoda - it is likely that he must be very, very, very close to Yoda in power.

Yes, I agree. He's no match for Sidious or Yoda in a contest of sheer Force powers. But, given Mace's Shatterpoint ability and Vaapad, I'd put him, at least, as Revan's equal in swordsmanship (and would likely defeat Revan in blade-to-blade combat).

The only true thing I'd wager on is Revan's considerable Force abilities. But Yoda or Sidious could possibly defeat or stalemate Revan in combat, Mace and Dooku could certainly give him a run for his money, too. And so could Anakin - in sheer saber combat.

I'm not arguing with you there Escape, notice how I only mentioned force abilities, and not saber combat.

Originally posted by Escape81
Do you understand what you just said, DS?

Yoda could likely take Revan, but Revan would destroy Mace?

I think not. If Yoda could take Revan, then Mace would easily give him a run for his money, and Revan wouldn't win by a longshot, mile, or even several feet.

Don't talk back to my apprentice like that.

Not if you want a crimson-bladed lightsaber in the face. chair

Wrong.

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
You've got a point, just not on Anakin. He's just not emotionably fit to fight someone with half a brain.

True.

@DS:

I'm not arguing with you there Escape, notice how I only mentioned force abilities, and not saber combat.

He's on par with Yoda in both.

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Your a retard.

Revan loses.

Lol, YOUR the retard.

If you weren't one, you'de know that his Vapaad would help him cutail Revan's Force attacks, in a way.

And duh, of course he loses. Retard. 😛

Originally posted by Escape81
True.

@DS:

He's on par with Yoda in both.

Again I disagree with you that Mace is on par with Yoda in force abilities. The only one on par with Yoda in that category would be Sidious. Mace is on par with Yoda in saber combat, but still not as good as he is.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Again I disagree with you that Mace is on par with Yoda in force abilities. The only one on par with Yoda in that category would be Sidious. Mace is on par with Yoda in saber combat, but still not as good as he is.

Exactly.

Once again, my dark disciple womps your ass.

But just to add, Mace dosen't exactly have to be as strong in the Force as Revan to beat him.
He can utilise Vapaad to feed off Revan's gradually lost surplus energy, and/or redirect it back into him.
Therefore, he dosen't need power of an exact proportion to Revan's.
He can just use the Dark Lord's own power against him. 😉

Originally posted by Darth Sexiest
Lol, YOUR the retard.

If you weren't one, you'de know that his Vapaad would help him cutail Revan's Force attacks, in a way.

And duh, of course he loses. Retard. 😛

Too bad Revan has precog too. Vaapad wouldn't give Mace the advantage he needs to win.

Originally posted by Escape81
"On par"?

Oh, no, I disagree, completely. Shatterpoint detailed an example where Mace controlled an avalanche (and rode it, I believe) using the Force. To share the title of senior Master (which we know isn't dictated by age, as Mace isn't that old) with Yoda - it is likely that he must be very, very, very close to Yoda in power.

Yes, I agree. He's no match for Sidious or Yoda in a contest of sheer Force powers. But, given Mace's Shatterpoint ability and Vaapad, I'd put him, at least, as Revan's equal in swordsmanship (and would likely defeat Revan in blade-to-blade combat).

The only true thing I'd wager on is Revan's considerable Force abilities. But Yoda or Sidious could possibly defeat or stalemate Revan in combat, Mace and Dooku could certainly give him a run for his money, too. And so could Anakin - in sheer saber combat.

Yup. Mace could beat him as well, don't forget. 😛

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Too bad Revan has precog too. Vaapad wouldn't give Mace the advantage he needs to win.

Mace has Precog too I believe. 😛

Vapaad would, btw.

Originally posted by Darth Sexiest
Vapaad would, btw.

Vaapad wouldn't, btw.

Um...yes, it would.

Well, I said Revan is about even with Sidious and Maul, and Mace + Yoda are a stronger team than they are so Yoda and Mace take Revan comfortably.

Originally posted by Blax X
Mace could beat Revan alone, he's black

😐

We all know Revan is a black man.

Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
We all know Revan is a black man.

He was the dark lord of the sith...

Is Revan really black??? (Just wanted to know)

Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
Is Revan really black??? (Just wanted to know)

Apparently

Was there a source, or is this just an assumption???