Kyle Rayner Vs Silver Surfer

Started by Soleran21 pages
Originally posted by Sea King
well kyle said it himself that he made his ring to always have extra energy [B]ALWAYS [/B]

ALWAYS, well then it certainly MUST, it's true, it's true I think I lost my shoe. Butt seriously hear, Kyle isn't going to take it to SS who's been around the block a few times kNOw what I mean?

Originally posted by kgkg
? I have read plenty I can post scan of Hal loosing energy....... and that’s just a possibility .....

but like i said non-jobing Gl shouldn't get their powers absorb..........but it happens and also their speed (mental) hasn't clearly been stated....... at times they have no faster than human reaction.

something like this ........ there are lot more..... it has happen before......

Dude, Kyle's ring doesn't run out of power like other GL rings do. 😐

Originally posted by batdude123
Will power AND imagination. 😉
you are right

Originally posted by Sea King
in the comic were they fought kyle fought him and then exploded the planet and flew away from it.

now he may have not killed him but in that fight he beat him.

its kind of like(this is comparison to a human scale) if i hit you in the face and you fell to the ground and was ko'ed i won in that instence.

1. That's cheap as hell.

2. That would be like ME knocking you out in a fight. 😎

Course there was that one time where Silver Surfer sucked the IQ right out of somebody's brain, making them not even able to move. 😗

Wasn't that against .......................Gladiator?

Originally posted by kgkg
? I have read plenty I can post scan of Hal loosing energy....... and that’s just a possibility .....

but like i said non-jobing Gl shouldn't get their powers absorb..........but it happens and also their speed (mental) hasn't clearly been stated....... at times they have no faster than human reaction.

something like this ........ there are lot more..... it has happen before......

That scan would have been useful, if it had Kyle in it instead, since he's the only GL that has unlimited energy. 🙄

Anyways, I give this to Kyle, I don't think they can absorb each others energy's anyway's either without one of them stoping the other in the process.

Originally posted by batdude123
1. That's cheap as hell.

2. That would be like ME knocking you out in a fight. 😎

i agree but still its a win.

and he really did do an awsome job against parallax in that comic.

(my dad like the biggest superman/parallax fan iv ever known was star struck when i showed him this and he said the whole comic was pis cause he dident like it.)

Originally posted by Soleran
Wasn't that against .......................Gladiator?

Someone like that. 😬

can anyone tell what villans give GL trouble then ? Why does he even need teammates ?

Originally posted by Trolt
can anyone tell what villans give GL trouble then ? Why does he even need teammates ?

Sinestro, who wrecked Kyle in Rebirth.

Originally posted by Trolt
can anyone tell what villans give GL trouble then ? Why does he even need teammates ?

ah i dont know really cause you know sinestro and alex nero only had rings for them selfs.

Originally posted by Soleran
[B]ALWAYS, well then it certainly MUST, it's true, it's true I think I lost my shoe. Butt seriously hear, Kyle isn't going to take it to SS who's been around the block a few times kNOw what I mean? [/B]
Has this what it has come to honestly nothing new has been said this discussion was done two pages ago.. with this:
Originally posted by chris_64256
I stated this a while back on kyle in my Thor versus Kyle thread while back it holds true to this thread against silver surfer: I have heard nothing that makes me think silver surfer can take kyle..

Kyle doesn't have to go head to head.. Lots of indirect options. He could shrink himself down like The Atom, or make himself totally intangible, phase into a floor or something, and pump out constructs from hiding... And with an AI, he has access to other tricks, like planetary level time manipulation tricks, freezes and stuff... Or a Thanos like stasis cube used on Blood in Thunder Thor, like one GL tried using on Doomsday, and only failed because of the plot device evolution.

A GL ring definately has enough firepower to deal with someone on silver surfers level, since Hal was using a ring to take out Superman and Martian Manhunter, and not the Parallax power. Kyle may not be Hal, but he's pretty good in the willpower department.. Contained Ultraman, that Superman clone, for a good long while, for one. Made a small moon once, too. Remember, the AI's a factor now.. This means auto FTL reflex's, auto shielding, protection from mortal wounds, and all the techniques the Oan computer can conjure up.

Originally posted by Trolt
can anyone tell what villans give GL trouble then ? Why does he even need teammates ?
Well in reality Kyle could make a team full of Superman at will if he wanted to he has shown it before.

Originally posted by chris_64256
Has this what it has come to honestly nothing new has been said this discussion was done two pages ago.. with this:

Well truth be known, none of those AMAZING things listed would even SLIGHTLY challange surfer.

This debate has been done, time and time and time again. The search function was broken which is why we are here now. There isn't anything Kyle can do SS cannot do or do even better or Faster without thinking about it.

The difference is that SS doesn't rely on someone that is simply human or an OAN device....................it isn't cannon and I realize this but when kyle and SS did meet, it was SS who absorbed the ENTIRE OAN battery, cuz Kyle couldn't survive it.

Kyles good but he's not an SS.

Originally posted by Soleran
Well truth be known, none of those AMAZING things listed would even SLIGHTLY challange surfer.

This debate has been done, time and time and time again. The search function was broken which is why we are here now. There isn't anything Kyle can do SS cannot do or do even better or Faster without thinking about it.

The difference is that SS doesn't rely on someone that is simply human or an OAN device....................it isn't cannon and I realize this but when kyle and SS did meet, it was SS who absorbed the ENTIRE OAN battery, cuz Kyle couldn't survive it.

Kyles good but he's not an SS.


I disagree mostly because that's total BS. I agree SS wins because and only because of the initial speed advantage but to say SS can do anything Kyle can do is wrong. When has SS ever made his own army of Superman and Flash level people? Never. Has SS come close to collapsing the universe with a singularity? Don't think so. Kyle has a limit on willpower, not raw power.

Originally posted by Soleran
Well truth be known, none of those AMAZING things listed would even SLIGHTLY challange surfer.

This debate has been done, time and time and time again. The search function was broken which is why we are here now. There isn't anything Kyle can do SS cannot do or do even better or Faster without thinking about it.

The difference is that SS doesn't rely on someone that is simply human or an OAN device....................it isn't cannon and I realize this but when kyle and SS did meet, it was SS who absorbed the ENTIRE OAN battery, cuz Kyle couldn't survive it.

Kyles good but he's not an SS.

Your right its not cannon so there is no point in mentioning it and it doesnt change the fact surfer goes down to a "Human".. All that you have been saying in this 5 page waste is "speedblitzing" kyles a human, the fight will go 36 hours my favortie by the way 😆 and now you bring up a non cannon feat thats hold no water in this forum..

Originally posted by Validus
I disagree mostly because that's total BS. I agree SS wins because and only because of the initial speed advantage but to say SS can do anything Kyle can do is wrong. When has SS ever made his own army of Superman and Flash level people? Never. Kyle has a limit on willpower, not raw power.

Val why do you do this to me, huh?

Originally posted by chris_64256
Your right its not cannon so there is no point in mentioning it and it doesnt change the fact surfer goes down to a "Human".. All that you have been saying in this 5 page waste is "speedblitzing" kyles a human, the fight will go 36 hours my favortie by the way 😆 and now you bring up a non cannon feat thats hold no water in this forum..

Dude seriously speedblitz, thats all there is to it, I'd pull out scans but they are so fast you cannot even see them.

DOUBLE POST , SPEEDBLITZ

Originally posted by Soleran
Val why do you do this to me, huh?

Any other topic besides Green Lantern and I would stand with you, my friend. 😄