Kyle Rayner Vs Silver Surfer

Started by Acrosurge21 pages

Originally posted by Blair Wind
and yet a gl can keep up with the flash

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Nice scans. That sure looked like a sonic boom, Blair Wind.

Here's a scan of Surfer levitating while asleep. http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_14.jpg

then starts fight with red shift

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Gl's dont really need to search a planet to locate someone, the ring does it for them. Gl's can then teleport to that location. Also a GL as a human doesnt have to be able to react in manoseconds. The ring reacts for them. The ring reacts and processes faster than Flash.

Being able to dodge starshpis is also childsplay to a lantern. And Surfer sure as hell didnt evade all of Kyles blasts in Crossover Classics 4, so that point is nulled.

still without the board

To me it looks like they were sucked into a blackhole and falling.

clearly flying without the board

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I'll take your word for it.

Why is he falling through space? Shouldn't he float.

Originally posted by Jose123
Why is he falling through space? Shouldn't he float.

he was being pulled by ego's gravity I believe

Originally posted by jrodslam
Gl's dont really need to search a planet to locate someone, the ring does it for them. Gl's can then teleport to that location. Also a GL as a human doesnt have to be able to react in manoseconds. The ring reacts for them. The ring reacts and processes faster than Flash.

Being able to dodge starshpis is also childsplay to a lantern. And Surfer sure as hell didnt evade all of Kyles blasts in Crossover Classics 4, so that point is nulled.

Interesting. You're suggesting that the GLs are in fact faster than the Flash. While that seems quite absurd, have you any proof to back up your assumptions?

Surfer was weakened in CC4, so your second point is also nullified.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Interesting. You're suggesting that the GLs are in fact faster than the Flash. While that seems quite absurd, have you any proof to back up your assumptions?

Surfer was weakened in CC4, so your second point is also nullified.

Gl's can trancend light speed far quicker than Flash can for 1. They can also teleport. Flash isnt faster than instant transmission. The proof is Flash cant go from 0 to lightspeed instantly. Not without getting boosted anyways.

Surfer was weakened, yet hes the one who charged Kyle to battle while Kyle just wanted to talk to him? Yea good point. 🙄

Originally posted by jrodslam
Gl's can trancend light speed far quicker than Flash can for 1. They can also teleport. Flash isnt faster than instant transmission. The proof is Flash cant go from 0 to lightspeed instantly. Not without getting boosted anyways.
Whew! This is worse than the fighting speed vs traveling speed arguments! Space warping and teleporting are not the same as speed and reflexes.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Warping space, even universal distances, is elementary for nearly any cosmic beign. Nova can do it. Quasar can do it. Any GL can do it. But this does not mean they can think and react at similar speeds. Put a different way, a GL might be able to cover more distance than the Flash by warping space, but this does not mean he's faster than Flash. He cannot think faster. He cannot react faster.

Surfer can both travel universal distances and move and react fast enough to pick one being from a colossal starship in a microsecond. He can travel the entire planet (without space-warping) in the time it takes to speak a sentence. Evading an armada of firing starships without taking a hit is childsplay for him. And of course, we have the evidence of Surfer evading every single one of Kyle's blasts in DC vs Marvel. This is evidence, both of Surfer's enormous speed and mental processing ability; ability that surpasses a GL's physical limitations.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Surfer was weakened, yet hes the one who charged Kyle to battle while Kyle just wanted to talk to him? Yea good point. 🙄
Um...and that has what relevance to the discussion? Did I miss something in the sarcasm?

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Whew! This is worse than the fighting speed vs traveling speed arguments! Space warping and teleporting are not the same as speed and reflexes.

GL's can fly faster than Flash can run. Probably not on earth however. And fighting speed? Who was talking about fighting speed? The ring allows for super fast reflexes because of its ability to sense oncoming danger.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Um...and that has what relevance to the discussion? Did I miss something in the sarcasm?

Obviously you did.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
And of course, we have the evidence of Surfer evading every single one of Kyle's blasts in DC vs Marvel. This is evidence, both of Surfer's enormous speed and mental processing ability; ability that surpasses a GL's physical limitations.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Surfer was weakened in CC4, so your second point is also nullified.

You mentioned a book that was fan voted first. Then you were countered with CC4. But you mentioned that "Surfer was weakened" thats why he couldnt evade Kyles blasts. Yet hes the one who initiated the fight between the two.

Any proof of the ring able to react and process information as fast as a few x times lightspeed without the user knowing it?

Is that a no?

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
Any proof of the ring able to react and process information as fast as a few x times lightspeed without the user knowing it?

Hal once sent out s.o.s. probes to other GL's across the universe and they all came back a second later.

His auto shield also once shielded him and Supes from an explosion.

We both know how those auto shields work, they're there when the writer wants them, and they aren't when they don't want them.

I'm asking is there a scan where any GL was capable of fighting h2h or otherwise at many time the speed of light. SS can do it and has many times.

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
We both know how those auto shields work, they're there when the writer wants them, and they aren't when they don't want them.

I'm asking is there a scan where any GL was capable of fighting h2h or otherwise at many time the speed of light. SS can do it and has many times.

Regardless of how inconsistant the writer writes them, thats how its suppose to be.

Gl's cant fight at lightspeeds such as hand movement speed. However Surfer cant either. Unless you call flying in a circle at lightspeed and shooting a beam in the middle fighting at lightspeed, like other Surfer fans do.

Please show Surfer fighting in h2h combat at many times lightspeed. That would be much appreciated.

Originally posted by jrodslam

Please show Surfer fighting in h2h combat at many times lightspeed. That would be much appreciated.
We have been asking this question for t he last year jrod.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
We have been asking this question for t he last year jrod.

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