Kyle Rayner Vs Silver Surfer

Regardless of how inconsistant the writer writes them, thats how its suppose to be.

Gl's cant fight at lightspeeds such as hand movement speed. However Surfer cant either. Unless you call flying in a circle at lightspeed and shooting a beam in the middle fighting at lightspeed, like other Surfer fans do.

Dodged through a meteor shower while going light speed.

Saw, thought and reacted with a plan in a microsecond.

Searched the ENTIRE earth, each corner and hole and house in less than a few seconds.

Scanned and searched with his own eyes the entire UNIVERSE in less than a few hours.

Thought and reacted in a nanosecond. Moving his arms and breaking chains....in a nano second.

He's faster than Flash in reaction and speed. Don't even try to bullshit and say he just flys fast.

He just flys fast.

Originally posted by The Ion
He just flys fast.

Surfer was able to even synthesis the Odin Force. So, basically, the dude can actually make something similar to magic of the highest order.

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
I'll remember this comment when you argue against Strange's auto shields. 😈

Difference is GL's have auto shields that protect them from mortal harm or blast that would ko them. I never said a GL cant get knocked out with a sucker punch or the like. You on the other hand said that Strange's auto shields are always on 24/7. Meaning hed never get ko'd off a sucker punch. Big difference between having on to protect from death than having one on 24/7 to protect from being ko'd.

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
He has:
Flown into a mansion, went through the halls, went into a room, broke the lock with his hands, grabbed Nova, exited the mansion so fast that the alarm didn't go off until Surfer was half a light year away.

Dodged through a meteor shower while going light speed.

Saw, thought and reacted with a plan in a microsecond.

Searched the ENTIRE earth, each corner and hole and house in less than a few seconds.

Scanned and searched with his own eyes the entire UNIVERSE in less than a few hours.

Thought and reacted in a nanosecond. Moving his arms and breaking chains....in a nano second.

He's faster than Flash in reaction and speed. Don't even try to bullshit and say he just flys fast.

Did i ever say SS just flies fast? Ive said hes never fought at lightspeeds. The scan with the flying in a circle then shooting a blast in the middle isnt fighting at lightspeeds.

Originally posted by id369
SS vs The Runner

Looks to me like Surfer is flying then gets hit off his board. When Runner comes back around, they are both on the board again and he's holding Surfers hands in place. Whats that suppose to show?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Looks to me like Surfer is flying then gets hit off his board. When Runner comes back around, they are both on the board again and he's holding Surfers hands in place. Whats that suppose to show?

You asked

Please show Surfer fighting in h2h combat at many times lightspeed. That would be much appreciated.

And I simply replied.

Difference is GL's have auto shields that protect them from mortal harm. I never said a GL cant get knocked out with a sucker punch or the like. You on the other hand said that Strange's auto shields are always on 24/7. Meaning hed never get ko'd off a sucker punch. Big difference between having on to protect from death than having one on 24/7 to protect from being ko'd.

Did i ever say SS just flies fast? Ive said hes never fought at lightspeeds. The scan with the flying in a circle then shooting a blast in the middle isnt fighting at lightspeeds.

Originally posted by id369
You asked

And I simply replied.

I know i asked, but that wasnt him fighting h2h at lightspeed. Him having his hands held is fighting?

Plus who said they were going lightspeed?

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
No, no. I said it raises his durability to high meta levels and it keeps him from mortal harm. You showed scans of thugs K.O'ng him as a rebuttle.

No no. You also said he has his auto shield on 24/7. When ever someone mentions Strange getting ko'd via speedblitz, you say "He always has the auto shields on." Thats when i come in and reply with "He doesnt always have the shields up."

Originally posted by Arabian Knight
He's fought/reacted at light speed in every single feat I mentioned. What more do you want?
Does SS need to say "AHA! I'm fighting h2h with you at lightspeed!"?

Of all those feats you mentioned, which one has him fighting, AK?

Originally posted by jrodslam
I know i asked, but that wasnt him fighting h2h at lightspeed. Him having his hands held is fighting?

Plus who said they were going lightspeed?

That all depends on how you intrepid the fight scene.

I count it as fighting since SS and the Runner are dodging and throwing energy blast before they ended up holding each other.

And the Runner is only known to be one of the fasted for having one of the IG gems. I seriously doubt they are fighting at a vary slow pace.

Originally posted by id369
That all depends on how you intrepid the fight scene.

I count it as fighting since SS and the Runner are dodging and throwing energy blast before they ended up holding each other.

And the Runner is only known to be one of the fasted for having one of the IG gems. I seriously doubt they are fighting at a vary slow pace.

Its precieved as its shown. There was no fighting. Only flying and Surfer was held. Plus who knows if they were going lightspeed. Nothing stated it as so.

If Runner was throwing energy blasts, that travel at lightspeed and Surfer was dodging them, then show it instead of showing Surfer being held.

True Runner is known for speed. Im not saying they werent going fast, but it didnt say anything about lightspeed in the scan you posted. I can post a bunch of scans of GL fighting in space.

Ion or Parallax..... Surfer gets creamed..... Any other GL, SS wins. Hal will be a tougher brawl.

Originally posted by joesha28
Ion or Parallax..... Surfer gets creamed..... Any other GL, SS wins. Hal will be a tougher brawl.

Kyle and Hal can beat him too. 😉

Originally posted by dvampire
Kyle and Hal can beat him too. 😉

Originally posted by thesilverspider
is it because their d.c guys or because they really can.

Surfer can beat any green lantern excluding parrallax via lightspeed

Originally posted by Juntai
They CAN beat him, and he CAN beat them, it's all relative, they have nearly identical nearly unlimited powersets, it merely comes down to who's on their game.

I was just saying that to dvamp since he is the biggest d.c bias bastard on these forums.

and you just said it right there why the surfer would win the majority.green lanterns are not always on their game the surfers powers are not variable like a green lanterns are.Going by forum rules then it would be 50 50 each.

Originally posted by Eternity
Surfer can beat any green lantern excluding parrallax via lightspeed

Originally posted by Juntai
GL's can go lightspeed too.

Originally posted by thesilverspider
I was just saying that to dvamp since he is the biggest d.c bias bastard on these forums.

and you just said it right there why the surfer would win the majority.green lanterns are not always on their game the surfers powers are not variable like a green lanterns are.Going by forum rules then it would be 50 50 each.