Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos' superior physical attributes will only work against him in a fight with karate kid, even current Karate Kid can throw around high end brutes like he's tossing pancakes. The stronger you are, the more he utilizes that power against you. Thanos had trouble with Cap hand to hand, he's going to have his hands full with KK.
SO much of the reasoning behind this junk will not be a factor in this. We are not talking about powers, we are talking H2H. No Cosmic blasts, no tech. All these examples of Thanos owning people (like warrior madness Thor) he used tech, or some other power to enable victory (like the Champion) I don't like KK, but if we are talking about a straight up H2H fight I don't see why he couldn't hold his own. I don't think Thanos would ever be able to hit him. I am not sure that KK's hits would hurt Thanos, but either way you can't pretend like Thanos is the best H2H fighter in the universe and would immediatly dispatch KK.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
SO much of the reasoning behind this junk will not be a factor in this. We are not talking about powers, we are talking H2H. No Cosmic blasts, no tech. All these examples of Thanos owning people (like warrior madness Thor) he used tech, or some other power to enable victory (like the Champion) I don't like KK, but if we are talking about a straight up H2H fight I don't see why he couldn't hold his own. I don't think Thanos would ever be able to hit him. I am not sure that KK's hits would hurt Thanos, but either way you can't pretend like Thanos is the best H2H fighter in the universe and would immediatly dispatch KK.
Thanos' internal energy manipulation is a part of his being and would apply in this fight. I posted scans of him fighting Thor with the powergem to show that he could hold his own against someone backed by infinite strength.
The only thing his technology provides is a forcefield and teleportion, neither of which he needs to totally smash KK into oblivion. Thanos is one of the most well trained fighters in the MU, so I don't see how you ignore the fact that he trained Gamora in fighting and studied myriad other alien fighting styles.
Let me put it to you this way. Think about all the martial arts styles on Earth. Muy Thai, Kung Fu, Karate, Jiujutsu, Capoiera, Russian wrestling styles, mixed martial arts (MMA). These evolved over several hundred years, and only encompass just humans.
Now imagine hundreds maybe thousands of different alien species, all having developed their own styles of fighting, and some of whom have a much older civilization than Earth (thousands, maybe conceivably millions of years). Now imagine someone going around the universe, who has an eidetic memory (can instantly memorize anything he's ever seen) and who already has a very complex understand of martial arts in various forms, going around and studying these different styles.
You really think a mere human, just because he's studies human martial arts that were a thousand years more advanced, is going to beat someone like that?
The only thing technology does for Thanos right now is teleportion and shields - his strength is already incredible and he can augment it to an extreme degree by his own internal energies, not to mention his speed and durability.
Can KK control his body at the molecular level? No.
Can KK withstand being blasted by a skyfather? No.
KK can't hold a candle to Thanos in any way, shape or form, no matter how poorly he is written.
Originally posted by Newjak
Ok guys I'm tired of reading he has fought better and its his thing.Tell me how is KK supposed to beat a person who expotentially stronger, has decent skill, can not die, and has a HF?
Originally posted by Validus
Tell me how Thanos will actually land a hit on Val. I'm not saying KK will win at all. It's a stalemate. Val can't really hurt him and Thanos will never lay a hand on him unless anyone wants to argue that Thanos is as fast as PC Kryptonians/Daxamites and Flashes which is what it took to land a hit on him.
I posted a dozen scans already of why Thanos would utterly destroy KK, you have yet to post one scan backing up your statements. Show me where KK has fought someone of Darkseid's level and held his own (not Superboy who has no clue about fighting techniques other than be super strong and super fast). Hmm that's right, you can't, that's too bad, because for a second I almost believed you.... NOT.
I like how you utterly refuse to acknowledge the fact that Thanos is a tactics master. He has fought beings that are stronger and faster than him and still won because he is a super-genius on the level of which no mere human could understand. KK would get a couple hits on Thanos, Thanos would realize what he was doing, calculate how to defeat him based upon his movements, then knock his ass out in one good shot, and KK would be down for the count.
Originally posted by Validus
Tell me how Thanos will actually land a hit on Val. I'm not saying KK will win at all. It's a stalemate. Val can't really hurt him and Thanos will never lay a hand on him unless anyone wants to argue that Thanos is as fast as PC Kryptonians/Daxamites and Flashes which is what it took to land a hit on him.
Agreed. Once again I am not saying that KK wins, but people are underestimating him. I hate KK but the guy is pretty much the best H2H guy in comics.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Agreed. Once again I am not saying that KK wins, but people are underestimating him. I hate KK but the guy is pretty much the best H2H guy in comics.
Post a scan of KK smacking around pre-crisis Darkseid, or how about pre-crisis Mongul, or someone else of their calibre, until then, what you say has no meaning. In other words, someone who isn't just a powerful guy who has no idea how to fight (e.g. superboy or Flash).
Originally posted by ValidusHow about out lasting him. Like you KK can't win.
Tell me how Thanos will actually land a hit on Val. I'm not saying KK will win at all. It's a stalemate. Val can't really hurt him and Thanos will never lay a hand on him unless anyone wants to argue that Thanos is as fast as PC Kryptonians/Daxamites and Flashes which is what it took to land a hit on him.
All Thanos has to do is outlast him. KK for everything he is is only human and therefore grows old grows tired needs to eat slep stuff like that.
Originally posted by Kutulu
I posted a dozen scans already of why Thanos would utterly destroy KK, you have yet to post one scan backing up your statements. Show me where KK has fought someone of Darkseid's level and held his own (not Superboy who has no clue about fighting techniques other than be super strong and super fast). Hmm that's right, you can't, that's too bad, because for a second I almost believed you.... NOT.I like how you utterly refuse to acknowledge the fact that Thanos is a tactics [b]master
. He has fought beings that are stronger and faster than him and still won because he is a super-genius on the level of which no mere human could understand. KK would get a couple hits on Thanos, Thanos would realize what he was doing, calculate how to defeat him based upon his movements, then knock his ass out in one good shot, and KK would be down for the count. [/B]
Dude, I went back and looked at your scans and saw pretty much nothing demonstrating H2H skills. Power yes, but H2H no.
Again, I am not really saying KK wins, but you talk as if you showed us scans of Thanos owning people in a fistfight.
He took down WM Thor with Tech, and when he is blasting Thor, he is using cosmic power. No one is arguing who is more powerful or who would beat more people. Thanos would kill KK, he could just destroy the planet, but in H2H KK is a harder test for Thanos than the Hulk or many others would be.
Also before you give me an nonsense about scans I don't read KK, but look in the respect thread.
Originally posted by Newjak
How about out lasting him. Like you KK can't win.All Thanos has to do is outlast him. KK for everything he is is only human and therefore grows old grows tired needs to eat slep stuff like that.
And to the other guy, none of your scans show any hand to hand skills so they're all moot.
Originally posted by JuntaiScans?
In a fist fight, Thanos was having difficulties with Cap, and that's a LONG way from Karate Kid.