Originally posted by Scoobless
It wont be easy...and Spidey has already wrecked at least one version of Iron Man
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Tony still only operates at roughly human-level reactions. And Parker has fought stronger and faster opponents before.
So yes, IM should win, but given, say, a city setting, the iron spidey costume, and a few lucky breaks (or a plot device) and it could happen.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
✅Tony still only operates at roughly human-level reactions. And Parker has fought stronger and faster opponents before.
So yes, IM should win, but given, say, a city setting, the iron spidey costume, and a few lucky breaks (or a plot device) and it could happen.
Eh, didn't extremis bump up his reaction times? Wasn't there that speed feat of his where he did all kindsa crap, narrating ".0004 Seconds"?
I'd have to go to the respect thread to find it, I'll see what I can do.
Correction: The Iron Man respect thread on KMC sucks. Perhaps it was on another board, I recall seeing it. Maybe I'll find it eventually 😬.
Just pointing out that Ironman has quite a bit better than 'normal human' refelexes and speed now.
I'd like to see Spidey use some tech he cam up with to take Tony down. Think about it: Tony's been trying to fuel the inner scientist in Peter. Wouldn't it be a great dynamic if that came back to bite him in the ass?
Of course, afterwards, Peter grabs his old threads and wales down on the incapacitated Iron Man like never before. 😎
Originally posted by Big Sexy
We'll see in 2-3 weeks.
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I'm excited. Finally he can stop jobbing because he's on the wrong side in CW. Having a bad showing against Cap was basically a requisite for him (though it was hardly a full fight), so now he can finally start beating down people that should be above him, just like Cap does constantly these days.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
✅Tony still only operates at roughly human-level reactions. And Parker has fought stronger and faster opponents before.
So yes, IM should win, but given, say, a city setting, the iron spidey costume, and a few lucky breaks (or a plot device) and it could happen.
After the events of 'Extermis', Tony's reaction time and speed are far beyond human-level.
Spiderman isn't winning under any circumstance save for some crazy no-sense plot device.
Originally posted by Innerhype
After the events of 'Extermis', Tony's reaction time and speed are far beyond human-level.Spiderman isn't winning under any circumstance save for some crazy no-sense plot device.
So are lots of other peoples' reactions. Spidey's reactions are to "enhanced" guys like DD or martial artists like those guys are to regular people.
IM should still win, but all I'm saying is that it won't be a curbstomp. Parker can dodge and get some hits in on pretty much anyone, even though Tony eventually has methods of taking him out.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
✅Tony still only operates at roughly human-level reactions. And Parker has fought stronger and faster opponents before.
So yes, IM should win, but given, say, a city setting, the iron spidey costume, and a few lucky breaks (or a plot device) and it could happen.
Tony does not operate at human level reactions. That's ridiculous! In Iron Man # 7 he fights Crimson Dynamo and there are several panels where it shows him operating at above normal human reactions...way above!!! Infact I dont have the issue with me, but in one instance he is shown multi-tasking while he is fighting. When I get home I can post some actual things he does that show he has above human reaction times. Iron Man should take this 9/10 in my opinion.
The being in Iron Man is human. And not superhuman. If he shows anything way above human abilities (such as reflexes) then it is PIS.
Why? Because he is human.
By definition, if anyone does something out of human range then they are not human anymore (but superhuman).
With that said,
I think if the two started within 10 ft of each other then a well written spiderman (using the best of his abilities and no PIS) would own IM.
He would grab him and swing trash him on the ground back and forth like a rag doll. Like Droopy does when someone marks a mustage on his girls picture and laughs.
Spiderman's spidersense and speed would ensure him of not getting hit.
Spiderman could also perform the maximum spider combo on Tony. Destroying bit by bit his armor's weapons and crushing the armor itself before Tony can react. Remember in a true combo, it is impossible to recover after the first hit if later multiple hits are strung together fast enough. But If the first hit fails to daze (even slightly) then the combo can't work (like the first hit on Juggernaut in Marvel Super Heroes video game).
In theory, one could perform an infinite combo provided that they had infinite stamina, were fast enough, and the first hit dazed.
Thus all Spiderman has to do is get the first hit.
For more info on this, look at the video games Street Fighter 2 and Marvel Super Heroes.
In conclusion,
A bloodlust, determined, well written, best of abilities spiderman wins 10/10 if they start within 10ft of each other. Either by Maximum Spider Combo or by the rag doll thingy.
Man, Tony shouldn't have drawn a mustage on Mary Jane and laughed 😆