Originally posted by h1a8
The being in Iron Man is human. And not superhuman. If he shows anything way above human abilities (such as reflexes) then it is PIS.
Why? Because he is human.
By definition, if anyone does something out of human range then they are not human anymore (but superhuman).
Wrong. 🙂
Tony Stark now has a healing factor, and enhanced reaction times due to the Extremis virus he injected in himself. Nice try, though.
What is Spidey doing to IM exactly?
Web would annoy Tony...
Spidey's waldos would break against IM's armor...
Punch him with his strongest right-hook? he might move Iron Man a bit but he'll shatter his hand.
In one of IM's recent comics, he was shown taking a bombardment from an army. Mass tank fire, artillery shells, bullets, missiles... Result: no effect.
Since Spidey doesn't have the firepower of even one tank shell, winning the actual fight isn't one of Spidey's options.
Originally posted by H. S. 6
Wrong. 🙂Tony Stark now has a healing factor, and enhanced reaction times due to the Extremis virus he injected in himself. Nice try, though.
Not to say that I don't believe you but do you have any scans or comic issue #s showing him gaining enhanced reaction times from that.
Is this enhanced reaction great enough to stop Spidey from getting any hits whatsoever? Or is it a slight gain?
Originally posted by h1a8
Not to say that I don't believe you but do you have any scans or comic issue #s showing him gaining enhanced reaction times from that.
Is this enhanced reaction great enough to stop Spidey from getting any hits whatsoever? Or is it a slight gain?
It's definitely substantial. I'll get some scans.
Originally posted by h1a8
Not to say that I don't believe you but do you have any scans or comic issue #s showing him gaining enhanced reaction times from that.
Is this enhanced reaction great enough to stop Spidey from getting any hits whatsoever? Or is it a slight gain?
Against Crimson Dynamo, Iron Man was watching him talk and basically counting the nano-seconds that passed
Here's the scan:
http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=im070108sz.jpg
The rest of the fight can be found in the Iron Man respect thread.
🙂
Originally posted by Innerhype
What is Spidey doing to IM exactly?Web would annoy Tony...
Spidey's waldos would break against IM's armor...
Punch him with his strongest right-hook? he might move Iron Man a bit but he'll shatter his hand.
In one of IM's recent comics, he was shown taking a bombardment from an army. Mass tank fire, artillery shells, bullets, missiles... Result: no effect.
Since Spidey doesn't have the firepower of even one tank shell, winning the actual fight isn't one of Spidey's options.
Which comic is that? Any scans?
I think spidey can dismantle or destroy his weapons with strikes and crush bit by little bit his armor. Spidey has punched and crushed solid steel without effect to his hands several times. He has struck Juggernaut without hurting his hands and feet as well. He has bent solid tool steel with his index finger like it was rubber.
And remember kinetic energy (not momentum) is what causes damage. Kinetic energy=.5massxvelocity^2. By spidey punching and kicking as fast (or faster) as a bullet or artillery shell then by hit having more mass and less give (his feet are connected to the ground whereas a bullet's feet is connected to the air).
Thus he would have far greater kinetic energy than a bullet or artillery shell with added no give driving force (feet connected to the ground). Enough to hurt Hulk (who is also immune to bullets and artillery shell fire). Enough to crush and dent solid steel (as he has done before).
Originally posted by H. S. 6
Here's the scan:http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=im070108sz.jpg
The rest of the fight can be found in the Iron Man respect thread.
🙂
That is his armor reacting to an explosion and not himself.
Plus he planned to punch him even before he started talking. Hence press the button when he said the word "Have".
Originally posted by H. S. 6
Well, I doubt he'd be able to get past Iron Man's force fields anyway.They've stood up to attacks directly from a SHIELD helicarrier. There's no way in hell Spidey packs the punch of a helicarrier, as cool as he is. 😛
If spiderman don't get the first hit in before his shields then yes he loses all the time. But maybe spidey is fast enough to get the first hit in.
Originally posted by h1a8
Which comic is that? Any scans?I think spidey can dismantle or destroy his weapons with strikes and crush bit by little bit his armor. Spidey has punched and crushed solid steel without effect to his hands several times. He has struck Juggernaut without hurting his hands and feet as well. He has bent solid tool steel with his index finger like it was rubber.
And remember kinetic energy (not momentum) is what causes damage. Kinetic energy=.5massxvelocity^2. By spidey punching and kicking as fast (or faster) as a bullet or artillery shell then by hit having more mass and less give (his feet are connected to the ground whereas a bullet's feet is connected to the air).
Thus he would have far greater kinetic energy than a bullet or artillery shell with added no give driving force (feet connected to the ground). Enough to hurt Hulk (who is also immune to bullets and artillery shell fire). Enough to crush and dent solid steel (as he has done before).
Sorry, I don't think there are any scans of it but what I mention happens in The Invincible Iron Man #9 "Execute Program" part 3 of 4.
Also, it is not just the kinetic energy from missiles and artillery shells that you have to worry about, It's the blast from them that makes them so powerful.
Take a grenade for example, if you pull the pin and throw it at somebody, the person is going to notice getting hit by it for sure (might sting depending on how hard it is thrown), but he'll take that pain over whats coming a few seconds afterwards.
Originally posted by h1a8
That is his armor reacting to an explosion and not himself.
Plus he planned to punch him even before he started talking. Hence press the button when he said the word "Have".
That's not the armor reacting, that's tony.
Notice the narrations are Tony speaking. "I charge a magnetic pulse in my arm in .002 seconds" "I wait 1.043 seconds, and then nail him"
Get it? That's tony speaking, not the armor.
Originally posted by Soljer
That's not the armor reacting, that's tony.Notice the narrations are Tony speaking. "I charge a magnetic pulse in my arm in .002 seconds" "I wait 1.043 seconds, and then nail him"
Get it? That's tony speaking, not the armor.
No you misread
The narration says that his armor adapted to the blast
He charged a magnetic pulse in his arm to nail him with a super punch.
If not then he simply anticipated that was going to happen.
Or he either sense with his radar that exploding devices were coming from him and acted accordingly.
Originally posted by h1a8
No you misread
The narration says that his armor adapted to the blastHe charged a magnetic pulse in his arm to nail him with a super punch.
If not then he simply anticipated that was going to happen.
Or he either sense with his radar that exploding devices were coming from him and acted accordingly.
By the narration you can see Tony is just waiting and counting the nanoseconds as they go by, He's so bored just standing there and waiting for him to finish his sentence he is actually counting the time.
That explains why he's in his computers back at S.E. creating new things and doing all those other things across the globe at the same time while "fighting" him.
The most likely explanation to those mini-bombs is that he just seen it coming with his own eyes, sensor sweeped the bombs to see how much damage they'd do and made adjustments to counter the effects.
"By the time he starts his sentence the armor adjusts to the explosion. .004 seconds" .004 seconds... the time it takes for those adjustments to take place
Originally posted by Innerhype
By the narration you can see Tony is just waiting and counting the nanoseconds as they go by, He's so bored just standing there and waiting for him to finish his sentence he is actually counting the time.That explains why he's in his computers back at S.E. creating new things and doing all those other things across the globe at the same time while "fighting" him.
The most likely explanation to those mini-bombs is that he just seen it coming with his own eyes, sensor sweeped the bombs to see how much damage they'd do and made adjustments to counter the effects.
"By the time he starts his sentence the armor adjusts to the explosion. .004 seconds" .004 seconds... the time it takes for those adjustments to take place
while im not doubting that iron mans reaction time has drastly increased
i think you are seriously misinterpreteing the usage of the authors narroration
This has been done before.
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Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
while im not doubting that iron mans reaction time has drastly increasedi think you are seriously misinterpreteing the usage of the authors narroration
Um... no. He says, "I wait 1.043 seconds to let him finish his sentence."
Tony is waiting a second to let the guy finish his sentence, and then he proceeds to throw the punch. The armor doesn't run on auto-drive; Tony allows Dynamo the luxury of finishing his sentence, and then he strikes.
This clearly shows Tony's enhanced reactions. Otherwise, he probably wouldn't even be able to make these coherent thoughts, plan out his moves ahead of time, and then set them into motion. 😉
Originally posted by H. S. 6
Um... no. He says, "I wait 1.043 seconds to let him finish his sentence."Tony is waiting a second to let the guy finish his sentence, and then he proceeds to throw the punch. The armor doesn't run on auto-drive; Tony allows Dynamo the luxury of finishing his sentence, and then he strikes.
This clearly shows Tony's enhanced reactions. Otherwise, he probably wouldn't even be able to make these coherent thoughts, plan out his moves ahead of time, and then set them into motion. 😉
EXACTLY.
Sorry, my friend.
You misread.
