Silver Surfer/Iron Man Vs. King Thor

Originally posted by Soujaboy
No all the artifacts Strange used in his battle with the Ig were not standard equipment, thus he won't have them in this fight.

Originally posted by Soujaboy

No Odin destroyed multiple Galaxies when he fought Surtur, it when he fought Seth that shock waves throughout the multi-verse occurred. If it takes multiple Universes to be destroyed in order to cause shock waves throughout the multi-verse, then I guess Odin can add another feat to his sheet.
Fortunately your opinion holds no base without proof to back it up. So unless you can prove that Unilord is more powerful than Odin, leave it alone.
None of the characters mentioned are Celestial or Abstract lv, so yes I believe Odin can easily defeat Infinity Watch.

He was also able to cause Galactus an efficient amount of damage, something he was incapable of doing to Odin. Yet Galactus even when obviously infuriated was unable to kill or ko Thanos. Are you seeing a trend here?
BTW Galactus didn't cause more damage to Thanos then Odin did, and Odin was even laid back.
When has Thanos ever been ko'd?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
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Again if this is wrong, somebody post the correct information.

And as for Thanos being KO'd, I think the Maker knocked him out in Thanos #8. Death and Thanos are on good terms now, she even told him she loves him (to the extent she is able), I doubt he is still banned from her realm.

Originally posted by Accel
My main point is if King Thor is Sky-Father level, whether he compares to Odin or not is irrelevant, since just being Sky-Father is more than enough for these two.

That is false and stupid logic!

Skyfather doesn't equal absolute victory over non skyfathers.
Hell Reed Richards can kill a skyfather with prep. Amazo can easily beat a skyfather (Odin in fact) which I can easily prove.

Also the official marvel definition of skyfather is

The lead god or diety of a particular pantheon or religion. Referred to as such due to their usual associaton with the sky and/or "heaven." Also known as Godheads.

This definition has nothing to do with their power or knowledge. Neither does it imply that the skyfather can't be beat by a non skyfather. Neither does it show the minimum power or knowledge a skyfather must have to be a skyfather.

With that said, there are many skyfathers. Ranging from weak skyfathers to very strong skyfathers. And Thor has proven to be a weak one.

Originally posted by h1a8
That is false and stupid logic!

Skyfather doesn't equal absolute victory over non skyfathers.
Hell Reed Richards can kill a skyfather with prep. Amazo can easily beat a skyfather (Odin in fact) which I can easily prove.

Also the official marvel definition of skyfather is

The lead god or diety of a particular pantheon or religion. Referred to as such due to their usual associaton with the sky and/or "heaven." Also known as Godheads.

This definition has nothing to do with their power or knowledge. Neither does it imply that the skyfather can't be beat by a non skyfather. Neither does it show the minimum power or knowledge a skyfather must have to be a skyfather.

With that said, there are many skyfathers. Ranging from weak skyfathers to very strong skyfathers. And Thor has proven to be a weak one.

So prove Amazo can defeat Odin 😆

And how do you think Skyfathers get gods to follow them? with knowledge and power 😆

Originally posted by Soujaboy
So prove Amazo can defeat Odin 😆

And how do you think Skyfathers get gods to follow them? with knowledge and power 😆

Amazo could stop time faster than Odin can react. He has hourman's power and flash's reflexes.
Then he could gain his powers or just kill him outright.

Not all skyfathers are the same. They all have different storys and some have no story.

The definition says nothing of that skyfathers are the most powerful of the godhead (Even though many are). Neither does it say that a skyfather can't be beat by a nonskyfather.

The requirements of being a skyfather are stated exactly in the definition. Don't try to make up your own definition.

Originally posted by h1a8
That is false and stupid logic!

Originally posted by h1a8
Skyfather doesn't equal absolute victory over non skyfathers.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hell Reed Richards can kill a skyfather with prep. Amazo can easily beat a skyfather (Odin in fact) which I can easily prove.

Originally posted by h1a8
Also the official marvel definition of skyfather is

The lead god or diety of a particular pantheon or religion. Referred to as such due to their usual associaton with the sky and/or "heaven." Also known as Godheads.

This definition has nothing to do with their power or knowledge. Neither does it imply that the skyfather can't be beat by a non skyfather. Neither does it show the minimum power or knowledge a skyfather must have to be a skyfather.

Originally posted by h1a8
Amazo could stop time faster than Odin can react. He has hourman's power and flash's reflexes.
Then he could gain his powers or just kill him outright.

Not all skyfathers are the same. They all have different storys and some have no story.

The definition says nothing of that skyfathers are the most powerful of the godhead (Even though many are). Neither does it say that a skyfather can't be beat by a nonskyfather.

The requirements of being a skyfather are stated exactly in the definition. Don't try to make up your own definition.

😆 Odin can stop time, and react and move at warp speeds, just in case you neverhadaclu Warp Speed reactions>>>>>>>Light Speed reactions.

Their all different, yet their all powerful enough to defeat a Herald and a man in armor. 🙄

Who said Skyfather can't be beat by non Skyfathers? I just said Iron man and Surfer can't do it, which they can't. 😉

When did I create my own definition? It's true that to become a skyfather you must be wise and powerful, or how in the first place would you ever become a Skyfather?

Originally posted by Board Walker
Silver Surfer from pre-anihilation upgrade, and Iron with the Thor-Buster suit.

Versus

King Thor

This battle takes place at the same place and time that Iron with the Thor-Buster suit fought King Thor, except Silver Surfer comes with Ironman to help him this time.

Does the battle turn out any different, does Thor still win?

Who takes the cake?

And id see Insane Genis-Vell as being more powerful then Surfer, and KT went toe to toe with Genis.....

So IMO KT takes this 6-7/10

Originally posted by Soujaboy
😆 Odin can stop time, and react and move at warp speeds, just in case you neverhadaclu Warp Speed reactions>>>>>>>Light Speed reactions.

Their all different, yet their all powerful enough to defeat a Herald and a man in armor. 🙄

Who said Skyfather can't be beat by non Skyfathers? I just said Iron man and Surfer can't do it, which they can't. 😉

When did I create my own definition? It's true that to become a skyfather you must be wise and powerful, or how in the first place would you ever become a Skyfather?

Traveling speed doesn't equal reflex speed. Plus Odin could only portal travel. Not travel through space linearly or warply. And everyone knows that Flash is the faster of the two.

It is not true that to become a skyfather you must be wise and powerful.
It is not the requirement in the definition. Yes it is possible that IM and SS could do it (defeat a skyfather). For the power level of a skyfather isn't defined nor is a certain amount of power required to become one.

Originally posted by h1a8
Traveling speed doesn't equal reflex speed. Plus Odin could only portal travel. Not travel through space linearly or warply. And everyone knows that Flash is the faster of the two.

It is not true that to become a skyfather you must be wise and powerful.
It is not the requirement in the definition. Yes it is possible that IM and SS could do it (defeat a skyfather). For the power level of a skyfather isn't defined nor is a certain amount of power [B]required to become one. [/B]

Actually if you ever picked up a comic Odin has infinite lv's of power in every degree. That means his speed, strength, durability, etc all have the potential to reach or be at infinite lv's. Also, if you ever traveled down town to the comic book store you would also find out that Odin can indeed fly and react at warp speeds. So yes if every one equates to you, then Flash is faster than Odin. 😉

Ok so display to me a weak and ignorant skyfather. 🙄

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Actually if you ever picked up a comic Odin has infinite lv's of power in every degree. That means his speed, strength, durability, etc all have the potential to reach or be at infinite lv's. Also, if you ever traveled down town to the comic book store you would also find out that Odin can indeed fly and react at warp speeds. So yes if every one equates to you, then Flash is faster than Odin. 😉

Ok so display to me a weak and ignorant skyfather. 🙄

False Odin can't react at warp speeds. Never has and never will. You are making yourself look foolish here. It is common sense that Flash is faster (at least starts out that way).

Second who cares if Odin can reach infinite power (in which he can't). He still can die.

Originally posted by Soujaboy

Who said Skyfather can't be beat by non Skyfathers? I just said Iron man and Surfer can't do it, which they can't. 😉

Originally posted by h1a8
False Odin can't react at warp speeds. Never has and never will. You are making yourself look foolish here. It is common sense that Flash is faster (at least starts out that way).

Second who cares if Odin can reach infinite power (in which he can't). He still can die.

Considering it's in Odin's official bio, you'll have to argue with Marvel Hq about that one. However I do have a question; how can a being have the potential to have infinite attributes yet not have the ability to react at warp speeds?

Yes Odin can, like I said it's in his bio. 🙄

Originally posted by Roldz
Wrong SS beat 2 skyfather level and and an abstract.. Just letting you know, PC's quite handy...

Which one's?

Unilord, Mephisto, The Darkone (actually it was the combined power of Defenders), Elder Demon, Marduk..

Originally posted by Roldz
Unilord, Mephisto, The Darkone (actually it was the combined power of Defenders), Elder Demon, Marduk..

Unilord=Hype, and not many showings. If he was defeated by Surfer, he was never an abstract anyways.

Mephisto=Needed the help of Galactus, I remember Surfers soul being captured.

Elder Demon=?

Marduk= Nowhere near herald or Abstract lv.

mephisto has crushed ss on numerous occasions (even melted him in at least one case), but there is a case where ss surprised and over-powered him. going by average showings ss gets stomped by mephisto. unilord arc sucked and thor won't be force feeding him 'souls' in this battle. didn't ellie save the day in the marduk arc anyway? the elder demon (noxx) pretty much stomped ss as well -- at the least ss did nothing to harm noxx and was ready to die in that fight. white raven saved his arse in that one shot.

regular thor=ss +/- your own personal preference. after a bit of a struggle kt beats them. odin and his experience crushes them easily.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Unilord=Hype, and not many showings. If he was defeated by Surfer, he was never an abstract anyways.

Mephisto=Needed the help of Galactus, I remember Surfers soul being captured.

Elder Demon=?

Marduk= Nowhere near herald or Abstract lv.

Mephisto,his also beaten him in his realm without Galactus help, his souls is what Mephisto wants but SS has manage to elude/stop him...

The Darkone In the SS/Namor/Strange/Hulk annual tittled the return of the defenders..

The Elder Demon which Thanos and Galactus highly sought out infinite power source... He would have cause much Havok in the Universe if not stop..

Marduk High level/perhaps Universal Reality manipulator, whose the imbodiment of all the humans negative aspect since beginning of time/ also merge with a being who can make any realities come true or traverse it.. Id call that Skyfather, even above maybe..

Originally posted by leonidas
mephisto has crushed ss on numerous occasions (even melted him in at least one case), but there is a case where ss surprised and over-powered him. going by average showings ss gets stomped by mephisto. unilord arc sucked and thor won't be force feeding him 'souls' in this battle. didn't ellie save the day in the marduk arc anyway? the elder demon (noxx) pretty much stomped ss as well -- at the least ss did nothing to harm noxx and was ready to die in that fight. white raven saved his arse in that one shot.

regular thor=ss +/- your own personal preference. after a bit of a struggle kt beats them. odin and his experience crushes them easily.

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Originally posted by Roldz
Unilord.. http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unilordwh1.jpg If he is the Universe how is he not an abstract...

Mephisto,his also beaten him in his realm without Galactus help, his souls is what Mephisto wants but SS has manage to elude/stop him...

The Darkone In the SS/Namor/Strange/Hulk annual tittled the return of the defenders..

The Elder Demon which Thanos and Galactus highly sought out infinite power source... He would have cause much Havok in the Universe if not stop..

Marduk High level/perhaps Universal Reality manipulator, whose the imbodiment of all the humans negative aspect since beginning of time/ also merge with a being who can make any realities come true or traverse it.. Id call that Skyfather, even above maybe..

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