Silver Surfer/Iron Man Vs. King Thor

Started by Soujaboy9 pages

Originally posted by bigbran
How about we compare the two?
Odin ask him if he yields.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512666

Galactus compliments him.
http://img94.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactus48na.jpg

This is also comparing damage.
Everything Galactus did, was more.

Ok don't forget to compare attitudes. By the look on Odin's face he was calm, by the look on Galactus face he was enraged. I can cause a lot more damaged when I'm enraged than I can when I'm calm.

It's was also obvious by Galactus statement that he was actually trying against Thanos. Odin however looked as if he didn't care, Thanos caused no damage and Odin didn't have to breath hard.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Ok don't forget to compare attitudes. By the look on Odin's face he was calm, by the look on Galactus face he was enraged. I can cause a lot more damaged when I'm enraged than I can when I'm calm.

It's was also obvious by Galactus statement that he was actually trying against Thanos. Odin however looked as if he didn't care, Thanos caused no damage and Odin didn't have to breath hard.

Lets forget faces right now because I'm going to bed.

The fact is, that Galactus caused way more damage, he also had to break through all of Thanos's shields, he made Thanos quit, oh and all this was done with one hand. One attack.

Odin on the other hand. Hit Thanos twice with Gungir, he hit him a couple times with blasts, and other attacks.
Plus the thing that blasted thanos back, was the fact that Thanos grabbed onto it.

Also, do you think in the least that Galactus may have had a more serious look on his face, maybe because he was ATTACKING AT THAT TIME!! The look on Odin's face was after the attack.
Was Odin saying this while he was attacking?
Are you saying that Odin is on Galactus's level?

Originally posted by bigbran
Lets forget faces right now because I'm going to bed.

The fact is, that Galactus caused way more damage, he also had to break through all of Thanos's shields, he made Thanos quit, oh and all this was done with one hand. One attack.

Odin on the other hand. Hit Thanos twice with Gungir, he hit him a couple times with blasts, and other attacks.
Plus the thing that blasted thanos back, was the fact that Thanos grabbed onto it.

Also, do you think in the least that Galactus may have had a more serious look on his face, maybe because he was ATTACKING AT THAT TIME!! The look on Odin's face was after the attack.
Was Odin saying this while he was attacking?
Are you saying that Odin is on Galactus's level?

The fact also remains that Thanos caused damage to Galactus(something he couldn't do to Odin), hence the reason Galactus was infuriated and trying hard.

Odin on the other hand wasn't even breathing hard, and was obviously no trying too hard.

Maybe because he had just been owned 😕

Depends on Galactus lv, but a full powered Galactus(something we've never actually witnessed) is more powerful than odin.

Originally posted by Wally West
Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong here: Thanos fought Odin in Warlock and the Infinity Watch #25, which was released in 1994. Thanos was banned from Death's realm in Cosmic Powers Unlimited #1, released in 1995.

Just thought I'd quote myself as you seem to have ignored my post Soujaboy, got anything to say about it? Still insist Thanos only survived because of his "curse"?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
I was talking about the part of his post were he claimed that team can take Odin.

Oh yea and you should check out my new thread in the comic book section.

Read my freakin post buddy, for goodness sake where does it says me saying the the team (Warlock/DD/Strange/Thanos and the Infinity Watch) would beat Odin.... here ill even guote it for you...

I've never said KT losses, I was just disagreing about Odin vs Thanos/Strange/SS/Warlock and the watch being beaten easy by Odin counting there highest feat... Read past post..

Does it look like i said the team beats Odin? For goodness sake, cant you read or do i have to freakin break it word by word for you... I was merely disagreeing with you about the team i mentioned above being beaten as easily as you say it would, 1 shoted by Odin... Here ill quote what you said...

And from Odin's highest showings he one shots them all, right before he scatters their body's across the multiverse.

Be a little be objective here man, Take a look at Dr. Strange feat here the guy stalemated for a little while the IG/ Beat freakin Dormmammu/put to shame Galactus.. Warlock w/soul gem beaten an abstract who could lay waste a galaxy/ fought off the 4 combined soul gems.. Thanos defeated Rot/Omega/true immortal/had good showings against Tyrant.. SS who fought Noxx/Murduk/Unilord not to mention Drax with power gem and the rest of the Infinity Watch... Your saying he beats this guys with One shot are you freakin kidding me.. Sorry but I got to dubbed you a fanboy if you think this to be true...

It's was also obvious by Galactus statement that he was actually trying against Thanos. Odin however looked as if he didn't care, Thanos caused no damage and Odin didn't have to breath hard.

By this statement are you implying that Odin>>>>Galactus? Just askin question.. Is all..

Odin on the other hand wasn't even breathing hard, and was obviously no trying too hard.

By not trying you mean pulling Gugnir out as his arsenal... Of course you have to pull out 1 of your most powerfull weapon when for sure your opponent is no threat to you 🙄 ...

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Considering it's in Odin's official bio, you'll have to argue with Marvel Hq about that one. However I do have a question; how can a being have the potential to have infinite attributes yet not have the ability to react at warp speeds?

Yes Odin can, like I said it's in his bio. 🙄

Show me the bio

Plus if Odin can gain enough power to react at warp speeds then at least he doesn't start off that way. Thus flash is faster in the beginning. That is all that is needed to stop time first.

Originally posted by h1a8
Show me the bio

Plus if Odin can gain enough power to react at warp speeds then at least he doesn't start off that way. Thus flash is faster in the beginning. That is all that is needed to stop time first.

Go to Marvel.com

Originally posted by Wally West
Just thought I'd quote myself as you seem to have ignored my post Soujaboy, got anything to say about it? Still insist Thanos only survived because of his "curse"?

I'm not sure either way, but if he wasn't banned from death at that time then Odin didn't do enough damage to kill him.

Originally posted by Roldz
Read my freakin post buddy, for goodness sake where does it says me saying the the team (Warlock/DD/Strange/Thanos and the Infinity Watch) would beat Odin.... here ill even guote it for you...

Does it look like i said the team beats Odin? For goodness sake, cant you read or do i have to freakin break it word by word for you... I was merely disagreeing with you about the team i mentioned above being beaten as easily as you say it would, 1 shoted by Odin... Here ill quote what you said...

Be a little be objective here man, Take a look at Dr. Strange feat here the guy stalemated for a little while the IG/ Beat freakin Dormmammu/put to shame Galactus.. Warlock w/soul gem beaten an abstract who could lay waste a galaxy/ fought off the 4 combined soul gems.. Thanos defeated Rot/Omega/true immortal/had good showings against Tyrant.. SS who fought Noxx/Murduk/Unilord not to mention Drax with power gem and the rest of the Infinity Watch... Your saying he beats this guys with One shot are you freakin kidding me.. Sorry but I got to dubbed you a fanboy if you think this to be true...

By this statement are you implying that Odin>>>>Galactus? Just askin question.. Is all..

By not trying you mean pulling Gugnir out as his arsenal... Of course you have to pull out 1 of your most powerfull weapon when for sure your opponent is no threat to you 🙄 ...

I know what your post says, it clearly sates that if the team was written at their highest Odin wouldn't beat them easily. I countered by stating, that if Odin was written at his highest them team would be scattered across the multiverse.

Yes, and for all that team has done they had trouble defeating one mad god. Odin would destroy them all as easily as he one shotted Surfer.

I answered that In Bigbrans post

Oh yea, because it's not like Thor doesn't use Mjolnir in all of his fights.🙄

Originally posted by Soujaboy
I know what your post says, it clearly sates that if the team was written at their highest Odin wouldn't beat them easily. I countered by stating, that if Odin was written at his highest them team would be scattered across the multiverse.

Yes, and for all that team has done they had trouble defeating one mad god. Odin would destroy them all as easily as he one shotted Surfer.

I answered that In Bigbrans post

Oh yea, because it's not like Thor doesn't use Mjolnir in all of his fights.🙄


So the fact that Strange stalemated the IG for a while or LT/IB, 2 of the most powerfull abstract entities who are way above Odin could'nt erase Dr. Strange from Existence, Does that tell you something about just how powerfull this one being is capable off? Let alone having extra help w/ the team listed above...

This is what your implying Odin>>>>>IG or LT/IB.... And i find that quite amusing...

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Yes, and for all that team has done they had trouble defeating one mad god. Odin would destroy them all as easily as he one shotted Surfer.

I answered that In Bigbrans post

Oh yea, because it's not like Thor doesn't use Mjolnir in all of his fights.🙄

As i said the team i mentioned was written poorly on that crossover..
Heres a scan of Bill manhadling WMThor..


BRB beat Thor in there yet SS/Warlock/Dr. Strange and the watch
couldnt take WMThor.. I find that quite odd

Originally posted by Roldz
So the fact that Strange stalemated the IG for a while or LT/IB, 2 of the most powerfull abstract entities who are way above Odin could'nt erase Dr. Strange from Existence, Does that tell you something about just how powerfull this one being is capable off? Let alone having extra help w/ the team listed above...

This is what your implying Odin>>>>>IG or LT/IB.... And i find that quite amusing...

So those instances can't be considered PIS, but WM Thor thrashing them all can? 🙄

Anyways your leaving out the part of the fights were Strange has massive amounts of outside help.

No lets get real, your logic is implying that Strange=Ig thus Strange is>Odin. 😉

Originally posted by Roldz
As i said the team i mentioned was written poorly on that crossover..
Heres a scan of Bill manhadling WMThor..


BRB beat Thor in there yet SS/Warlock/Dr. Strange and the watch
couldnt take WMThor.. I find that quite odd

Now show the rest of the scans were Brb and Surfer are both thrashed. 😉

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Now show the rest of the scans were Brb and Surfer are both thrashed. 😉

BOO-YA

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Now show the rest of the scans were Brb and Surfer are both thrashed. 😉

I know you where gonna say that... 😄
but we all know what happened both were defeated, thats the point of the scans... My point is how BRB took down WMTthor but the team could not.. So we disregard the low showing of WMThor and just consider all his high showings.. Thats why i said Odd, in that post you quoted.. Consider this if they where out for blood both BRB/SS, would they just discussed the malady of Thor in that instant? They could have ended everything in there by putting on the finishing blow rather than letting him gather his strength... They where not trying to kill him in that crossover rather than try to help him, therefore the team where only showing there best to subdue WMThor rather than put him in the sack..

Originally posted by Soujaboy
So those instances can't be considered PIS, but WM Thor thrashing them all can? 🙄

Anyways your leaving out the part of the fights were Strange has massive amounts of outside help.

No lets get real, your logic is implying that Strange=Ig thus Strange is>Odin. 😉


Piss, what the heck are you talkin about? So your considering all of Strange higher feats Piss.. Ie the time he defeated G twice, Beating Dormmamu, Eternity.. Why dont U check his respect thread, his higher showing surpasses what WMThor/Odin higher feats... This is why i was way against what your argumentation is.. like the post below..
And from Odin's highest showings he one shots them all, right before he scatters their body's across the multiverse.

That one... For someone who had higher showings than Odin, would'nt it be a quit diff.. to accomplish what you stated above? Unless we just disregard Strange and the rest of the teams high showing and go for their lowest ones cause i think thats what your basing you post from, highest showing of Odin vs low showings of the team, then its possible...Then its definetly possible..lol

Yes Strange stalemated IG for a while not sayin he would win but the point is if Strange accomplish somethin like that, would'nt that put your argumentation, "the team being defeated quit easily by Odin" to shame..

Originally posted by Roldz
I know you where gonna say that... 😄
but we all know what happened both were defeated, thats the point of the scans... My point is how BRB took down WMTthor but the team could not.. So we disregard the low showing of WMThor and just consider all his high showings.. Thats why i said Odd, in that post you quoted.. Consider this if they where out for blood both BRB/SS, would they just discussed the malady of Thor in that instant? They could have ended everything in there by putting on the finishing blow rather than letting him gather his strength... They where not trying to kill him in that crossover rather than try to help him, therefore the team where only showing there best to subdue WMThor rather than put him in the sack..

Piss, what the heck are you talkin about? So your considering all of Strange higher feats Piss.. Ie the time he defeated G twice, Beating Dormmamu, Eternity.. Why dont U check his respect thread, his higher showing surpasses what WMThor/Odin higher feats... This is why i was way against what your argumentation is.. like the post below..

That one... For someone who had higher showings than Odin, would'nt it be a quit diff.. to accomplish what you stated above? Unless we just disregard Strange and the rest of the teams high showing and go for their lowest ones cause i think thats what your basing you post from, highest showing of Odin vs low showings of the team, then its possible...Then its definetly possible..lol

Yes Strange stalemated IG for a while not sayin he would win but the point is if Strange accomplish somethin like that, would'nt that put your argumentation, "the team being defeated quit easily by Odin" to shame..

Na, Surfer himself stated that he was no longer holding back and even a "mad god" couldn't stand to the Surfers wrath. He was soon ko'd and in fear of his life. 😉

No, it's just you forget to mention the massive amounts of outside help strange receives, and you honestly believe that Strange is that powerful. Now don't get me wrong, Strange is powerful, but against major abstracts he usually has the aid of plot devices, outside help, and PIS.

Strange's feats aren't higher than Odin's. As I said before, Strange has massive outside help, sort of like how the F4 use the Ultimate Nullifier but it's not actually their power.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Na, Surfer himself stated that he was no longer holding back and even a "mad god" couldn't stand to the Surfers wrath. He was soon ko'd and in fear of his life. 😉

You know how many times SS has said that.. Ie.. Quazar, Jack of hearts, Super Skrull, Ronan, Reptile, Firelord etc.. but did he go all out no.. Ie.. Here kinda similar story line SS was trying to help JoH(own energy consuming him) but ended up pissed the 2 fought, SS said somethin similar but what did he do after 2 punches talk him to giving up.. You wanna see him nearly going all out checked out SS annual #7 against Morg, but he couldnt even bring himself to killing him..
He might have said that to Thor but i dont think he was willing to go all out while Thor was willing to kill him.. So what happens when 2 opponent of near equal power faces each other, 1 who only wants to subdue the other while the other is goin for the Kill.. Most of the time the latter wins..

No, it's just you forget to mention the massive amounts of outside help strange receives, and you honestly believe that Strange is that powerful. Now don't get me wrong, Strange is powerful, but against major abstracts he usually has the aid of plot devices, outside help, and PIS.

Ahh... Tell me somethin, when he fought Lt/IB, Galactus, Dormmamu, Eternity, Warlock w/ IG.. Did you see anyone help him against this beings? Cause i sure didnt.. His always been shown to be very capable fighting specially against abstract, thats in his char.. Odin is not gonna be swatting any of this guys..
If you wanna talk about piss, i could call Odin's shaking the multiverse piss as well, they merely destroyed a galaxy when fighting, how does that equate to shaking the multiverse...

Strange's feats aren't higher than Odin's. As I said before, Strange has massive outside help, sort of like how the F4 use the Ultimate Nullifier but it's not actually their power.

No, Strange feats are way above Odins.. They dont call him Sorceror Supreme for nothin.. I could say that this guy could spunk Odin by his lonesome if i just count his high showing but since im no fanboy and i always count char's low showing and then weight it up right in the middle, i dont see him beating Odin by his lonesome... Other's might think thats debatable..

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